M80 Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Answer my question.

What was your question??

Certainly, here was my question:

If I HAD to kill someone’s right now I’d take a guess between Eden, Fox, and Bona For no reason other than the fact that there seems to be a royalist in one of the three.

Please explain your use of the word "fact" in the above statement?

[President Eden]

anyway, I can’t fathom town bozo looking at my d1 and going “yep that’s the same guy I just played scum with last game.”

Obviously I’m capable of mixing up my style, but I at least can’t appreciate any tactical value that might have been gained by me getting in this fight as scum, and it doesn’t even look like bozo asked himself that question. he just saw a controversial flash point that could be used to justify a vote and went with it

##VOTE bozotheclown

Having not played last game. Does this look like the bozo scum you played with? There is something slightly like tho bozo scum I was hunting the last time I survived to hunt, but I'm curious your thoughts more.

It’s hard to say because I knew his and my agenda last time and I don’t know his here. I think his general MO as scum is to find a safe place to park a vote that won’t stick out too much, and which pushes whatever scum’s agenda is at the moment. He plays similarly to how I described damo in my post to Haze earlier, but I think he’s less pushy than scum!damo is. He mostly just wants to make sure his vote is where his team needs it to be without drawing too much attention. Unlike damo, I think he struggles a bit to articulate his vote as scum beyond the surface level, which is why he prefers to be more background about it.

So obviously if Bona were mafia we could see how his behavior fits scum agenda here. But even if Bona is town, I think he sees a useful (for scum) TvT and wants to place his vote in the more defensible spot (as it’s easy to handwave “Eden was being weird” in this community, especially coming off consecutive scum wins where I played in ways that pinged radars a bunch). Alternatively, there’s 1 or more scum on Bona right now and he’s trying not to be piled up there.

I realize a lot of this is speculative and depends on info we don’t have yet, but I don’t need to know exactly why he’s doing what he’s doing if I recognize that he’s doing what he does as scum.

[Dousing]

Ohh gotcha, fact was a bit too strict of a term but I just think that a rand kill between one of the three has a really good chance of killing a royalist (it's not that enlightening of a thought process I wouldn't think too hard on it)

This whole 80 pages on D1 thing is really curbing my participation here. Can someone just summarize what's happened so I can at least slightly participate?

[President Eden]

Ohh gotcha, fact was a bit too strict of a term but I just think that a rand kill between one of the three has a really good chance of killing a royalist (it's not that enlightening of a thought process I wouldn't think too hard on it)

This whole 80 pages on D1 thing is really curbing my participation here. Can someone just summarize what's happened so I can at least slightly participate?

We all got in a fight and our moms got scared and sent us all packing with our aunties to Belaire

bozo is a sussy boy

[brainbomb]

Can we talk about what scum would be doing right now?

like for example, if Haze were mafia, how different would it appear at present

[damo666]

If I said "here are the three people I want to vote for today" would you conclude that I town-read those three people, Damo?

No. Don't be silly.

So, why do you think that when Bunny said "I want to vote for these three people" this did not imply he scumread those three people?

I don't.

[BunnyGo]

Oh god how are we at 80 pages already???

Okay y'all gotta gimme a sec to catch up here

Have you played here before? I don't think we've ever played together.

[President Eden]

Can we talk about what scum would be doing right now?

like for example, if Haze were mafia, how different would it appear at present

I think a lot of that turns on whether Bona is town or mafia.

If he’s mafia then they’re either pushing me or an alternate wagon hard. Or they just have no thread presence and it’s something like Bona/bozo/Dousing/Haze.

If he’s town they’re just trying to position themselves in a way that’s not sus.

I don’t feel I’m being pushed all that hard. I don’t really see a meaningful alternate being pushed. So it’s either Bona plus a bunch of wallflowers or Bona is just town.

If Bona is town then shrug lol. They’re just trying to blend in and not be sus. I think they’d be avoiding fights or weighing in with little defusing comments.

[ghug]

## GM Note:
I’d also like to remind everyone that nearly every possible piece of information you could want is available in our fine first post of the game, as I’ve had several questions about roles, messages, and mechanics that have been answered since pregame.

Imagine asking Chaqa questions.

[BunnyGo]

I’m going to be driving my kids around running errands for next 5 hours. Will be on phone. But spotty check ins.

[President Eden]

I definitely said a lot of that without checking the wagons and I’m unsure if I got the application of my theory right lol.

I stand by the general principles espoused though. I didn’t realize we had 4-3-3 with 3 unvotes

[ghug]

I'm not inclined to think Bunny is scum for this (as others pointed out, much better for scum-bunny to keep it quiet and get an easy PR kill). On the other hand, I could see town-Bunny wanting to prove himself by catching scum so badly that he doesn't stop to think about other possibilities.

(I also think there's something like a 10% chance that worcej is scum and faking it here. The fact that he's blown up and claimed PR in similar situations is what makes me think he's town, but it's also the case that he knows this and could try to fake it. WIFOM. But I'm only going to seriously entertain this if he's still around on like Day 4 or something.)

Moving my vote to ##VOTE BONA. Someone once said that only scum joke about being scum.

were they correct?

Remember that game where I opened with a scumclaim and then we had like four days in a row of town ghug vs. scum at EoD before bozo finally got his way and killed me?

[Dousing]

Oh god how are we at 80 pages already???

Okay y'all gotta gimme a sec to catch up here

Have you played here before? I don't think we've ever played together.

We haven't me and Sweet played once before

[Jamiet99uk]

No. Don't be silly.

So, why do you think that when Bunny said "I want to vote for these three people" this did not imply he scumread those three people?

I don't.

Then why did you say:

"It doesn't follow that he thinks they are all scum."

[brainbomb]

Mafia in the world where Bona, Bozo, Eden, Bunny are all town is probably a very interesting team like haze, jamie, ghug, sweet.

something like that.


Im just gonna start over with a blank chalkboard and start using my head here

[Dousing]

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
BunnyGo
damo666
Dousing
Foxcastle
ghug
HaZe
Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto
President Eden
pyxxy
rdrivera2005
sweetandcool
worcej
Xcution


green = town
yellow = null
red = scum

Brian (you might've already explained this) but can you explain your townreads?

Specifically why do you townread me?

[brainbomb]

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
BunnyGo
damo666
Dousing
Foxcastle
ghug
HaZe
Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto
President Eden
pyxxy
rdrivera2005
sweetandcool
worcej
Xcution


green = town
yellow = null
red = scum

Brian (you might've already explained this) but can you explain your townreads?

Specifically why do you townread me?

Rather than explain them, I am starting over completely blank so there isnt much point in explaining reads I used to have

[Jamiet99uk]

I might not be on at EoD so I'd better not stay on unvote.

##Vote Bozo because his participation has been minimal and his votes have appeared opportunistic and badly evidenced.

My instinct is that President Eden is town and Bona is a silly boy.

[brainbomb]

you were town based on your first post. it wasnt a strong townread but it was there for me

[sweetandcool]

Ohh gotcha, fact was a bit too strict of a term but I just think that a rand kill between one of the three has a really good chance of killing a royalist (it's not that enlightening of a thought process I wouldn't think too hard on it)

This whole 80 pages on D1 thing is really curbing my participation here. Can someone just summarize what's happened so I can at least slightly participate?

Summary in no particular order, hopefully I don't miss anything important:

1. Bunny noticed a PR slip by worcej and pushed it until worcej blew up and hardclaimed.

2. Eden and Brain got into an emotional argument where Brain kept misrepresenting them (though I don't think on purpose). Brain + others think Eden has been "off". It got really raw at the end and it supports the idea that at least one of them is town (I think both).

3. You've been lurking, how dare you.

4. Xcution and I have been having a lovely discussion devoid of any questions. I've come to the conclusion that they are likely scum, or at least not helpful. You can read our conversation, but in my opinion they seem determined not to listen to anything I've said, since they keep claiming I never fully responded to them despite me having done so multiple times.

5. It's something I said, isn't it.

I think that is it, but I have a bad feeling I've missed one other major thing.

Currently, there is some discussion in regards to Bozo, who I also scumlean. Emotions have run pretty high this game, you have been warned.