M80 Game Thread

[Bonatogether]

@Everyone:

Does Ghug's lack of investment, his laissez-faire attitude, bother you, at all?

ghug will resolve himself when someone does it for me

[sweetandcool]

I mean, you've played a single game, it's kind of weird to be stating that you know how you'd play as either alignment. I've been playing this game for over ten years and I still don't know how I'll play games when I enter. I think that you trying to vote me is an OMGUS vote had no reasons behind it. I think you've been unnecessarily self aware about things that don't need commenting. I also haven't felt much wolf hunting from you and think you've been trying to create content for yourself by playing into this newbie role talking needlessly about hypotheticals that exist in your mind (we don't know how you'd actually play as either alignment since there is no history).

Give me two players you'd shoot right now and why. Also give me two players you'd want to protect and why.

"by playing into this newbie role" okay, I don't think there is much that is going to knock me off of voting X for D1. Sorry everybody, but it must be done.

Now, to respond to the rest: I don't know about you, but I am capable of abstraction. I can use logic, I can imagine, I can do all of the same things any other human can. So I find it insulting that you think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know myself and how I would behave in a hypothetical situation.

My OMGUS (whatever that means) vote, was clearly due to my repeated warnings for others to stop harping on my experience level. You have ignored that warning time and again. I almost certainly would have changed my vote when a suitable candidate came along, but not now. That is, the vote was obviously not serious, except for in the sense that it was a warning.

If your complaint is that I'm not doing enough wolf hunting, then maybe you can do me a favour and stop harping on this piddly nonsense, and then maybe I could focus on things that matter.

I don't give a fuck THAT you're a newbie, it's what you've done and said WHEN you're a newbie. You being hyper aware of how you would play as either alignment, when you haven't even had experience as either alignment, doesn't sit right with me. You have come off as being wary of your appearance to others and I called it nervous, which you said 'I'm nervous as either alignment' when you've played ONE fucking game. So once again, I don't give a shit how many games you've played, but your experience and games played do not add up with what you're saying and how you're playing.

That's great you can do abstract thinking, so can my middle year students that I teach. However, I cannot read minds, so you telling me 'I promise I wouldn't play like this as wolf!' has literally zero backing or evidence and assumes that I take you on your word for that. Is that really something you're expecting me to do, just trust your abstract thinking and hypotheticals? You being insulted because you think I'm saying your stupid is unnecessarily emotional and not at all what I'm trying to say here.

Oh no, I was warned and I didn't listen? Again, don't give a shit about how new you are, but you repeatedly ignored my issues with what you were saying and instead of replying you decided to 'Oh My God You Suck' vote me.

See, I don't think you actually believe this. We've interacted very minimally and you have had no issue posting. How are you trying to blame me for your lack of wolf hunting (which you are admitting here?). I think you are handling my slot in complete bad faith here and what your vote boils down to is 'I warned him about calling me new but he didn't listen!'. That's some weak sauce right there.

Holy crap, try asking questions. This is preposterous.

[BunnyGo]

I often scumread jamie early. This game is no different. I don't get his style of play. Like, did he REALLY not get that ghug was making a joke calling Eden's post a fake jamie one?

I can't tell when jamie is pretending to be jamie or not.

[worcej]

Apparently I can't imagine it, according to X.

who is X

ONE WHO'S GON GIVE IT TO YA

[BunnyGo]

HaZe seems to be a pedant; this is good and bad. He also seems thoughtful and like I can imagine he'll be hard to read. The early pressure on bona was interesting, but easy to fake as scum. I didn't understand the early vote on ghug either; this seems easy to do as scum as well.

Then when HaZe called out brain, he was in my brain.

[President Eden]

that post just set off alarm bells for what i viewed as a facetious attempt to set up pyxxy towards scumreading me. i don't object to being scumread, or to people convincing other people to scumreading me, but that it seemed to be being done on the sly like it was is a red flag for me

How could I be “setting him up to scumread you” when my post expected clarification from him on his progression from townreading you to scumleaning you?

The subtext was actually that I thought it was suspicious that pyx backed off his townread of you without clear explanation. That’s quite apparent from the subsequent exchange I had with him.

But now I think he’s just right You literally quoted multiple “beliefs” of mine in your catch-up and now want to act like I don’t have any.

“No cap has been spoken.” Lol get the fuck outta here

##VOTE Bonatogether

i'm too lazy to cite line and verse but i distinctly recall you pushing people against me in some places while placing me in the green.

we keep talking about the subtext here, and of course that needs to be talked about, but no one seems to have thought about what's above the subtext. we need to talk about that.

i didn't pick up on that subtext

i quoted things you said but i don't believe that's what you believe in your soul.

i see on the bot you unvoted so whatever lol

I see you found Uncle Ant's weed stash.

[BunnyGo]

here's a post where I really started tunneling on brain:

viewtopic.php?p=340675#p340675

[BunnyGo]

here's a post where I really started tunneling on brain:

viewtopic.php?p=340675#p340675

How could he NOT be paying attention to me?! I'd done NOTHING! This seems like made up "hunting" scummy nonsense.

[worcej]

Do you think any of them are SvS or SvT?

Highest likelihood in my eyes of a SvT is Xcution vs SC. I think Xcution is potentially scum as they are coming in hot with direct questioning but the questions are not hard to ask.

I agree that of the three, that is the one most likely to be SvT, but I'm pretty iffy on it.

Fair, I don't have a strong conviction there but it is the most likely.

[BunnyGo]

@Fox, since you asked: I took a bit of a hiatus and have played 3 games since I've been back. Town in all of them (PR in at least one). Was speedwagoned at the end of D1 in 2 of them. One while driving my kid to soccer...that one hurt.

[Bonatogether]

I mean, you've played a single game, it's kind of weird to be stating that you know how you'd play as either alignment. I've been playing this game for over ten years and I still don't know how I'll play games when I enter. I think that you trying to vote me is an OMGUS vote had no reasons behind it. I think you've been unnecessarily self aware about things that don't need commenting. I also haven't felt much wolf hunting from you and think you've been trying to create content for yourself by playing into this newbie role talking needlessly about hypotheticals that exist in your mind (we don't know how you'd actually play as either alignment since there is no history).

Give me two players you'd shoot right now and why. Also give me two players you'd want to protect and why.

"by playing into this newbie role" okay, I don't think there is much that is going to knock me off of voting X for D1. Sorry everybody, but it must be done.

Now, to respond to the rest: I don't know about you, but I am capable of abstraction. I can use logic, I can imagine, I can do all of the same things any other human can. So I find it insulting that you think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know myself and how I would behave in a hypothetical situation.

My OMGUS (whatever that means) vote, was clearly due to my repeated warnings for others to stop harping on my experience level. You have ignored that warning time and again. I almost certainly would have changed my vote when a suitable candidate came along, but not now. That is, the vote was obviously not serious, except for in the sense that it was a warning.

If your complaint is that I'm not doing enough wolf hunting, then maybe you can do me a favour and stop harping on this piddly nonsense, and then maybe I could focus on things that matter.

I don't give a fuck THAT you're a newbie, it's what you've done and said WHEN you're a newbie. You being hyper aware of how you would play as either alignment, when you haven't even had experience as either alignment, doesn't sit right with me. You have come off as being wary of your appearance to others and I called it nervous, which you said 'I'm nervous as either alignment' when you've played ONE fucking game. So once again, I don't give a shit how many games you've played, but your experience and games played do not add up with what you're saying and how you're playing.

That's great you can do abstract thinking, so can my middle year students that I teach. However, I cannot read minds, so you telling me 'I promise I wouldn't play like this as wolf!' has literally zero backing or evidence and assumes that I take you on your word for that. Is that really something you're expecting me to do, just trust your abstract thinking and hypotheticals? You being insulted because you think I'm saying your stupid is unnecessarily emotional and not at all what I'm trying to say here.

Oh no, I was warned and I didn't listen? Again, don't give a shit about how new you are, but you repeatedly ignored my issues with what you were saying and instead of replying you decided to 'Oh My God You Suck' vote me.

See, I don't think you actually believe this. We've interacted very minimally and you have had no issue posting. How are you trying to blame me for your lack of wolf hunting (which you are admitting here?). I think you are handling my slot in complete bad faith here and what your vote boils down to is 'I warned him about calling me new but he didn't listen!'. That's some weak sauce right there.

i like

[Xcution]

@Everyone:

Does Ghug's lack of investment, his laissez-faire attitude, bother you, at all?

Yeah I'm a little worried about my pals ghug and Haze. I'm not big on meta, but in Champs ghug was a man of few words, but I felt a hard hitting and analytical logic to his posts. Haze was a bit everywhere with their posts and was a leading poster, but someone that had a big presence. Both these things are missing from this game. It's only my second game with them so I do take this with a grain of salt, but it's something to start on. I guess considering ghug was the rep for Champs here, I was expecting a bit more on his home site. Haze I feel has kind of been in the background. But that could just be because they're on a new site (though this is a new site for me and I am trying to make some waves). So I'm definitely hoping for a bit more from their slots, but I'm not ready to condemn them quite yet, but I am watchful.

[BunnyGo]

worcej posted a lot of what I was thinking; this is NAI--I've been fooled by scum!worcej before when he's done this.

I really don't get worcej townreading me for the silence. That felt quite a bit like pocketing. Especially after the potential scumslip

[sweetandcool]

"by playing into this newbie role" okay, I don't think there is much that is going to knock me off of voting X for D1. Sorry everybody, but it must be done.

Now, to respond to the rest: I don't know about you, but I am capable of abstraction. I can use logic, I can imagine, I can do all of the same things any other human can. So I find it insulting that you think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know myself and how I would behave in a hypothetical situation.

My OMGUS (whatever that means) vote, was clearly due to my repeated warnings for others to stop harping on my experience level. You have ignored that warning time and again. I almost certainly would have changed my vote when a suitable candidate came along, but not now. That is, the vote was obviously not serious, except for in the sense that it was a warning.

If your complaint is that I'm not doing enough wolf hunting, then maybe you can do me a favour and stop harping on this piddly nonsense, and then maybe I could focus on things that matter.

Oops, didn't answer your last question:

On D1, particularly this D1, I couldn't give you two players I would shoot now, let alone one. This game nobody has actually pinged me, except you, but not nearly enough for me to scumread you.

Two players I would protect is easy.

Kak, which I explained already, you can check peterbot, I'm not explaining again.

Brainbomb, because their argument with President Eden, while aggravating, just seemed pretty town, especially the really raw emotional moment where they wanted one of them to go.

You don't even wolf read me?? wut

I mean, I don't take notes during games, so you'll have to excuse me if I missed your reason for wanting to protect Kak (you already explained why you'd protect him?).

Okay, how did you feel about Eden throughout that interaction then? You're confident about Brain and protecting him, but now thoughts on Eden?

I don't take notes, I use peterbot.

Here: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=80

I tend to scumread Eden, but I think it's irrational. I think Brainbomb and Eden are same alignment, and I think Brainbomb is Town.

[Xcution]

BB vs Eden
Xcution vs S&C (very softly)
Jamie vs Ghug

Who’s the next two to squabble unnecessarily?

If you are saying these are all unnecessary squabbles, do you think they are all town versus town?

[BunnyGo]

Oh, damo is always eventually readable. My personal heuristic is he gets bored pretending to hunt if he isn't town.

[worcej]

Also still pondering if worcej sCuM Slipped early with his not recognizing the "THE" back on page 17.

It's an awkward one especially since Chaqa had PREVIOUSLY pointed it out on page 2. But worcej may have missed it?

Huh?

[President Eden]

Holy crap, try asking questions. This is preposterous.

ok green name for you

[BunnyGo]

I have written that post 743 by sweet is very towny. Here it is:

viewtopic.php?p=341210&sid=6be2a28cfc0f ... 2e#p341210

[BunnyGo]

Also still pondering if worcej sCuM Slipped early with his not recognizing the "THE" back on page 17.

It's an awkward one especially since Chaqa had PREVIOUSLY pointed it out on page 2. But worcej may have missed it?

Huh?

I mean...I just gave you references...