M80 Game Thread

[ghug]

Can't argue there. ##end

[Xcution]

In his last game, as town, Sweet said something to the effect that he is nervous about how other players will view him (I forget if he said that he modulated his posts as a result). So I don't think this is scum-indicative.

I mean, sure, but he also said he's nervous as either alignment (though he's only played one prior game?), so while I guess it would be NAI behavior, I do think the way he's been responding to me hasn't been in good faith and he hasn't really answered the questions I'm throwing at him. Instead, he's jumped into voting me for ??? reasons. This doesn't really tell me he's nervous because he's worried how people will view him, it feels more nervous that someone is poking at him when he doesn't want to be poked, so he's trying to throw the first punch.

If you're bored and feel like you don't have enough pages to read here, you could go reread D1 of game 79 and see how conf-town Sweet there compares to here.

I don't ever bother reading past games and I'm not going to judge a slot based on them only playing one game. I do find it odd that people are trying to attach a meta to Sweet after one game and are trying to push Sweet as town. There's nothing wrong with pushing him right now and I've been trying to do that despite players trying to say he's good. However, I'm not really interested in continuing to mention his experience level because there are other things that have pinged me about his slot that I mentioned earlier (my catchup and replies do not feel linear this game).

[Foxcastle]

I'm willing to vote Bozo tomorrow if he doesn't show up and put up.

Like EoD tomorrow or D2 tomorrow?

Certainly EOD, but I'll vote him well before that if he's not done anything useful.

[worcej]

I dont want to push and kill the lower posters. for fucks sake I want opinions, meta, ideas, facts, thoughts, to help me get better at reading those four players.

how is this so hard to talk about. what do you guys do when its you having to evaluate these people. do you really just forget about low posters for three or four days of game play before you ever even think about them?

Do you feel like anyone other than Eden may be preventing you from getting opinions on this?

Or are you just not getting responses?

[Xcution]

In his last game, as town, Sweet said something to the effect that he is nervous about how other players will view him (I forget if he said that he modulated his posts as a result). So I don't think this is scum-indicative.

I mean, sure, but he also said he's nervous as either alignment (though he's only played one prior game?), so while I guess it would be NAI behavior, I do think the way he's been responding to me hasn't been in good faith and he hasn't really answered the questions I'm throwing at him. Instead, he's jumped into voting me for ??? reasons. This doesn't really tell me he's nervous because he's worried how people will view him, it feels more nervous that someone is poking at him when he doesn't want to be poked, so he's trying to throw the first punch.

It's pretty difficult to answer you when you haven't clarified the questions.

I already asked once, I'll ask again, what do you want from me?

I think it's pretty obvious to everybody why I am currently voting for you.

There hasn't been a list of questions here, Sweet, this isn't a scripted performance. I have commented on what I haven't liked and all you have said in response is that you're tired of people harping on your newness and then voting me.

It's obvious to everybody why you're voting me? Please show me where this universal understanding is because I don't see it at all nor do I understand it; you voted me after I called you out and that's the only reason.

[worcej]

I don't know how to post GIFs, but just imagine I'm posting the scene from Kill Bill where Lucy Liu wrecks a dude.

to post pictures you have to go to the bottom side of the post window (below save draft, preview, submit) and click on "Attachments", then click on "Add files" and upload a picture then click on "Place inline", then there should appear an attachment code with the name of the picture and you can then post it.

lucy liu about to wreck a dude or something.png

I think there is a way to post some pictures with the url command but I haven't tried that yet so I don't know.

How fucking dare you fuck up the Kill Bill image of Lucy Liu

[worcej]

oh

alright
yea

im the pirate crew and stuff

Ooooo, what a risky claim to make.

He's the entire crew boys - we must all be scum then?

nah, brain is probably referencing to the pre-game chat where chaqa told us about that change for the vanilla pirate PM

ghug come read your friend for us

##vote Eden

the fact that worcej votes for Naughty Adam here makes me think that I'm wrong on him. Well, could be easily so since my early reads aren't the best *cough* *cough* ... but yeah, edens posts weren't giving me good vibes before. From what I've seen they got better though, so maybe it's just a skill issue.

I also come to think that a mafia worcej wouldn't vote town eden here. Mafia worcej might, but worcej looks pretty good to me currently, so don't think that's the case. But in case anyone of the two flips mafia, remember this post.

Most likely worcej and eden are just town.

Do I look like a stud, or do I have a good dad bod?

Asking for "research purposes"

[worcej]

So, any questions you have for me? Any wisdom you want me to share? Any secrets that interest you?

Kill, Fuck, Marry: ghug, Eden, rdr

[BunnyGo]

Oh shit! The game started yesterday?

How the f*** and I gonna catch up 59 pages?

[Xcution]

Alright, sum up what you want me to answer and I will give it a try.

I am capable of abstract thought. I know how I would feel and how I would behave if I were Mafia. Perhaps it is unhelpful to make comments about how I would behave as either alignment, but it does help paint an accurate and consistent picture as to how I should be behaving.

I'm happy to help solve regardless of alignment. If I'm town, solving is good. If I'm Mafia, solving throws suspicion off of me.

Oops, I did it again (;

I mean, you've played a single game, it's kind of weird to be stating that you know how you'd play as either alignment. I've been playing this game for over ten years and I still don't know how I'll play games when I enter. I think that you trying to vote me is an OMGUS vote had no reasons behind it. I think you've been unnecessarily self aware about things that don't need commenting. I also haven't felt much wolf hunting from you and think you've been trying to create content for yourself by playing into this newbie role talking needlessly about hypotheticals that exist in your mind (we don't know how you'd actually play as either alignment since there is no history).

Give me two players you'd shoot right now and why. Also give me two players you'd want to protect and why.

"by playing into this newbie role" okay, I don't think there is much that is going to knock me off of voting X for D1. Sorry everybody, but it must be done.

Now, to respond to the rest: I don't know about you, but I am capable of abstraction. I can use logic, I can imagine, I can do all of the same things any other human can. So I find it insulting that you think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know myself and how I would behave in a hypothetical situation.

My OMGUS (whatever that means) vote, was clearly due to my repeated warnings for others to stop harping on my experience level. You have ignored that warning time and again. I almost certainly would have changed my vote when a suitable candidate came along, but not now. That is, the vote was obviously not serious, except for in the sense that it was a warning.

If your complaint is that I'm not doing enough wolf hunting, then maybe you can do me a favour and stop harping on this piddly nonsense, and then maybe I could focus on things that matter.

I don't give a fuck THAT you're a newbie, it's what you've done and said WHEN you're a newbie. You being hyper aware of how you would play as either alignment, when you haven't even had experience as either alignment, doesn't sit right with me. You have come off as being wary of your appearance to others and I called it nervous, which you said 'I'm nervous as either alignment' when you've played ONE fucking game. So once again, I don't give a shit how many games you've played, but your experience and games played do not add up with what you're saying and how you're playing.

That's great you can do abstract thinking, so can my middle year students that I teach. However, I cannot read minds, so you telling me 'I promise I wouldn't play like this as wolf!' has literally zero backing or evidence and assumes that I take you on your word for that. Is that really something you're expecting me to do, just trust your abstract thinking and hypotheticals? You being insulted because you think I'm saying your stupid is unnecessarily emotional and not at all what I'm trying to say here.

Oh no, I was warned and I didn't listen? Again, don't give a shit about how new you are, but you repeatedly ignored my issues with what you were saying and instead of replying you decided to 'Oh My God You Suck' vote me.

See, I don't think you actually believe this. We've interacted very minimally and you have had no issue posting. How are you trying to blame me for your lack of wolf hunting (which you are admitting here?). I think you are handling my slot in complete bad faith here and what your vote boils down to is 'I warned him about calling me new but he didn't listen!'. That's some weak sauce right there.

[President Eden]

Oh shit! The game started yesterday?

How the f*** and I gonna catch up 59 pages?

##VOTE BunnyGo

[BunnyGo]

Kidding!

You guys basically had it; I've really liked trying to sit back more and read and think and get a sense of the game. So I challenged myself to not post for at least 24 hours no matter what. Thoughts and back posts in coming.

[President Eden]

##unvote

[BunnyGo]

First, @HaZe they should have pointed you to the bot's "Last&More" feature. It produces a single page of the game if you just keep hitting refresh on your browser. It's awesome.

Second, the bot also has time remaining.

[worcej]

(the following is only flavor)

DAY 1 INTERLUDE

Jimothy the Cabin Boy studied the map in his small room. Captain Fredbeard had handed it to him and told him to "learn it well, if ye e'er want to be a true sailor" before throwing an empty bottle over his head and laughing as he walked away, heading back to the yelling and chaos going on above deck.

Jimothy was starting to regret his choice to come aboard, but was thankful he wasn't yet truly part of the crew, and could sit in his small room behind the pantry.

Maybe I'll start tracking our progress on the map, he thinks...

DiploWorld

The names for locations on the map are fucking hilarious.

[Xcution]

It's pretty difficult to answer you when you haven't clarified the questions.

I already asked once, I'll ask again, what do you want from me?

I think it's pretty obvious to everybody why I am currently voting for you.

I think the reason you're voting X is because you got a bad vibe from the start and various followup interactions have not changed that. This comes from skimming your posts, so I'm not doing this to harass or goad you, I really do want to understand your thinking. Is my understanding broadly accurate?

That's true too, but mainly it was a reactionary vote that didn't necessarily mean anything substantial.

Yeah, that's a big yikes to me. This is an exact definition of OMGUS.

[ghug]

Oh shit! The game started yesterday?

How the f*** and I gonna catch up 59 pages?

Loving the typo in the post you spent nearly 30 hours writing.

[BunnyGo]

OK: Bona, this is the first game I've ever townread you D1. Was easier not talking over you. But there was at least one occasion where you went back after B.S.ing some shit and then ALSO followed up a push/question for sweet. Seemed quite towny, and haven't noticed anything to change that opinion since.

[Xcution]

I mean, you've played a single game, it's kind of weird to be stating that you know how you'd play as either alignment. I've been playing this game for over ten years and I still don't know how I'll play games when I enter. I think that you trying to vote me is an OMGUS vote had no reasons behind it. I think you've been unnecessarily self aware about things that don't need commenting. I also haven't felt much wolf hunting from you and think you've been trying to create content for yourself by playing into this newbie role talking needlessly about hypotheticals that exist in your mind (we don't know how you'd actually play as either alignment since there is no history).

Give me two players you'd shoot right now and why. Also give me two players you'd want to protect and why.

"by playing into this newbie role" okay, I don't think there is much that is going to knock me off of voting X for D1. Sorry everybody, but it must be done.

Now, to respond to the rest: I don't know about you, but I am capable of abstraction. I can use logic, I can imagine, I can do all of the same things any other human can. So I find it insulting that you think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know myself and how I would behave in a hypothetical situation.

My OMGUS (whatever that means) vote, was clearly due to my repeated warnings for others to stop harping on my experience level. You have ignored that warning time and again. I almost certainly would have changed my vote when a suitable candidate came along, but not now. That is, the vote was obviously not serious, except for in the sense that it was a warning.

If your complaint is that I'm not doing enough wolf hunting, then maybe you can do me a favour and stop harping on this piddly nonsense, and then maybe I could focus on things that matter.

Oops, didn't answer your last question:

On D1, particularly this D1, I couldn't give you two players I would shoot now, let alone one. This game nobody has actually pinged me, except you, but not nearly enough for me to scumread you.

Two players I would protect is easy.

Kak, which I explained already, you can check peterbot, I'm not explaining again.

Brainbomb, because their argument with President Eden, while aggravating, just seemed pretty town, especially the really raw emotional moment where they wanted one of them to go.

You don't even wolf read me?? wut

I mean, I don't take notes during games, so you'll have to excuse me if I missed your reason for wanting to protect Kak (you already explained why you'd protect him?).

Okay, how did you feel about Eden throughout that interaction then? You're confident about Brain and protecting him, but now thoughts on Eden?

[BunnyGo]

Oh shit! The game started yesterday?

How the f*** and I gonna catch up 59 pages?

Loving the typo in the post you spent nearly 30 hours writing.

I carefully craft every typ0