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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1081 Post by pyxxy » Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:14 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:37 pm
pyxxy wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:54 pm


swap eden with bona and sprinkle in some ghug
pyxxy wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 9:04 pm


bb is bb, lean town
bona hasn't done enough from what I've ingested, lean scum
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@pyx — I know a few hours passed between these posts, but what changed regarding Bona here?
eden is scum again
this almost counts for my bona quota

almost

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1082 Post by Bonatogether » Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:18 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:14 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:37 pm


@pyx — I know a few hours passed between these posts, but what changed regarding Bona here?
eden is scum again
ohh, spicy take just when I was to go ...

do you think worcej and myself were actually correct in our initial reads? Try to convince me that both of worcej and me are actually right and it's not just a case of bad early reads ...
i don't know what your or worcej's early reads were

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1083 Post by Kakarroto » Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:18 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:14 pm


eden is scum again
ohh, spicy take just when I was to go ...

do you think worcej and myself were actually correct in our initial reads? Try to convince me that both of worcej and me are actually right and it's not just a case of bad early reads ...
i don't know what your or worcej's early reads were
well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1084 Post by Kakarroto » Tue May 16, 2023 11:26 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:18 pm


ohh, spicy take just when I was to go ...

do you think worcej and myself were actually correct in our initial reads? Try to convince me that both of worcej and me are actually right and it's not just a case of bad early reads ...
i don't know what your or worcej's early reads were
well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?
oh, I meant FIRST takes, please, disregard this :lol:

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1085 Post by Bonatogether » Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:18 pm


ohh, spicy take just when I was to go ...

do you think worcej and myself were actually correct in our initial reads? Try to convince me that both of worcej and me are actually right and it's not just a case of bad early reads ...
i don't know what your or worcej's early reads were
well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?
i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1086 Post by President Eden » Tue May 16, 2023 11:31 pm

pyxxy wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:19 pm
-snip-
Image

I'm not sure I'm convinced, but thanks for the answer.

What posts of Bona's made you think he was "building to something," the lack of delivery of which led you to light scumlean him? I agree that this post is more typical of town Bona:
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:17 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 3:48 am


What would a townie reaction to it have been?
obligatory it depends on the person - for example, neon will always dig in her heels, so that doesn't make sense to read her off it. i don't know the x man well enough yet but i am watching
...but I don't see where it's building to any conclusion about someone here. So if such a buildup formed the basis for a "towncore" read which I assume is meant to have some teeth, what posts were building up?

I agree that his catchup posts haven't been all that interesting or compelling (though funny). I don't think that's enough for me to knock him down to scumlean, or even "null but killable" (which is how I would characterize my "red" names), but if you were expecting a big delivery then sure I see it.

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1087 Post by President Eden » Tue May 16, 2023 11:34 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm

i don't know what your or worcej's early reads were
well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?
i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid
I don't understand your expectations of me here, so it's hard to evaluate the (apparent?) disconnect or how you reached this conclusion.

I think I've been quite substantive for d1. Obviously there was a lot of probably not helpful yelling at brainbomb, but I've done a lot of evaluation outside of him. If you're expecting me to hard solve the game then idk what to tell you lol. Not happening.

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1088 Post by pyxxy » Tue May 16, 2023 11:35 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:31 pm
pyxxy wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:19 pm
-snip-
Image

I'm not sure I'm convinced, but thanks for the answer.

What posts of Bona's made you think he was "building to something," the lack of delivery of which led you to light scumlean him? I agree that this post is more typical of town Bona:
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 2:17 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 3:48 am


What would a townie reaction to it have been?
obligatory it depends on the person - for example, neon will always dig in her heels, so that doesn't make sense to read her off it. i don't know the x man well enough yet but i am watching
...but I don't see where it's building to any conclusion about someone here. So if such a buildup formed the basis for a "towncore" read which I assume is meant to have some teeth, what posts were building up?

I agree that his catchup posts haven't been all that interesting or compelling (though funny). I don't think that's enough for me to knock him down to scumlean, or even "null but killable" (which is how I would characterize my "red" names), but if you were expecting a big delivery then sure I see it.
"What posts of Bona's made you think he was "building to something,""
Not posts, more my mental model of his cadence.

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1089 Post by President Eden » Tue May 16, 2023 11:36 pm

pyxxy wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:35 pm
"What posts of Bona's made you think he was "building to something,""
Not posts, more my mental model of his cadence.
Right, but I assume he did some things early besides that one post you quoted to convince you that he was hitting that cadence. Did he?

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1090 Post by Bonatogether » Tue May 16, 2023 11:37 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:34 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm


well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?
i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid
I don't understand your expectations of me here, so it's hard to evaluate the (apparent?) disconnect or how you reached this conclusion.

I think I've been quite substantive for d1. Obviously there was a lot of probably not helpful yelling at brainbomb, but I've done a lot of evaluation outside of him. If you're expecting me to hard solve the game then idk what to tell you lol. Not happening.
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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1091 Post by President Eden » Tue May 16, 2023 11:38 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:37 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:34 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm


i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid
I don't understand your expectations of me here, so it's hard to evaluate the (apparent?) disconnect or how you reached this conclusion.

I think I've been quite substantive for d1. Obviously there was a lot of probably not helpful yelling at brainbomb, but I've done a lot of evaluation outside of him. If you're expecting me to hard solve the game then idk what to tell you lol. Not happening.
you have words but no thoughts - reads but no beliefs
that's straight up false wtf

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1092 Post by Kakarroto » Tue May 16, 2023 11:39 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:21 pm

i don't know what your or worcej's early reads were
well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?
i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid
well, I don't see it in the post from eden that you quoted. I guess I should stop for today and look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow. And probably look at the brain/eden argument again just to be sure, but not before I go to sleep.

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1093 Post by ghug » Tue May 16, 2023 11:41 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 6:25 pm
ghug wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 6:23 pm
I feel bad after this heuristic only worked by accident last game, but Kak posting early and then going silent continues to be a bad look.
I do not like it either. Town core should be active right now. Kak, you've got a few people who think you are town, care to speak up and participate?

Perhaps give them a couple more hours. People have things to do IRL too.
imagine posting this in the middle of the day
Do you actually think this is meaningful?

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1094 Post by Bonatogether » Tue May 16, 2023 11:42 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:38 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:37 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:34 pm

I don't understand your expectations of me here, so it's hard to evaluate the (apparent?) disconnect or how you reached this conclusion.

I think I've been quite substantive for d1. Obviously there was a lot of probably not helpful yelling at brainbomb, but I've done a lot of evaluation outside of him. If you're expecting me to hard solve the game then idk what to tell you lol. Not happening.
you have words but no thoughts - reads but no beliefs
that's straight up false wtf
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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1095 Post by Bonatogether » Tue May 16, 2023 11:43 pm

Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:39 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:25 pm


well both our birth takes was that eden was mafia, in my case it was a feeling that was like ... not fitting in, as if somethings wrong, but yeah, what is the argument here that you say eden is mafia?
i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid
well, I don't see it in the post from eden that you quoted. I guess I should stop for today and look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow. And probably look at the brain/eden argument again just to be sure, but not before I go to sleep.
that post just set off alarm bells for what i viewed as a facetious attempt to set up pyxxy towards scumreading me. i don't object to being scumread, or to people convincing other people to scumreading me, but that it seemed to be being done on the sly like it was is a red flag for me

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1096 Post by Bonatogether » Tue May 16, 2023 11:44 pm

ghug wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:41 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 10:51 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 6:25 pm


I do not like it either. Town core should be active right now. Kak, you've got a few people who think you are town, care to speak up and participate?

Perhaps give them a couple more hours. People have things to do IRL too.
imagine posting this in the middle of the day
Do you actually think this is meaningful?
not in an alignment sense but expecting people to be active during the middle of the day as a prerequisite for being towncore is smoothbrain

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1097 Post by President Eden » Tue May 16, 2023 11:47 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:43 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:39 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:28 pm


i think eden is capable of giving a lot of smoke and a lot of flair but as scum he just doesn't have substance

brain had it right earlier on, but it's really the case - see me vs eden last game. eden tried to make it a credibility war where we would together decide on options to resolve a hard cc battle, but really that was dumb. town eden isn't stupid
well, I don't see it in the post from eden that you quoted. I guess I should stop for today and look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow. And probably look at the brain/eden argument again just to be sure, but not before I go to sleep.
that post just set off alarm bells for what i viewed as a facetious attempt to set up pyxxy towards scumreading me. i don't object to being scumread, or to people convincing other people to scumreading me, but that it seemed to be being done on the sly like it was is a red flag for me
How could I be “setting him up to scumread you” when my post expected clarification from him on his progression from townreading you to scumleaning you?

The subtext was actually that I thought it was suspicious that pyx backed off his townread of you without clear explanation. That’s quite apparent from the subsequent exchange I had with him.

But now I think he’s just right :lol: You literally quoted multiple “beliefs” of mine in your catch-up and now want to act like I don’t have any.

“No cap has been spoken.” Lol get the fuck outta here

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1098 Post by ghug » Tue May 16, 2023 11:51 pm

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1099 Post by Jamiet99uk » Tue May 16, 2023 11:51 pm

President Eden wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:47 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:43 pm
Kakarroto wrote:
Tue May 16, 2023 11:39 pm


well, I don't see it in the post from eden that you quoted. I guess I should stop for today and look at it with fresh eyes tomorrow. And probably look at the brain/eden argument again just to be sure, but not before I go to sleep.
that post just set off alarm bells for what i viewed as a facetious attempt to set up pyxxy towards scumreading me. i don't object to being scumread, or to people convincing other people to scumreading me, but that it seemed to be being done on the sly like it was is a red flag for me
How could I be “setting him up to scumread you” when my post expected clarification from him on his progression from townreading you to scumleaning you?

The subtext was actually that I thought it was suspicious that pyx backed off his townread of you without clear explanation. That’s quite apparent from the subsequent exchange I had with him.

But now I think he’s just right :lol: You literally quoted multiple “beliefs” of mine in your catch-up and now want to act like I don’t have any.

“No cap has been spoken.” Lol get the fuck outta here

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Re: M80 Game Thread

#1100 Post by ghug » Tue May 16, 2023 11:52 pm

Ah fuck, I can't believe you've done this.

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