MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[y2kjbk]

i'm dense remember?

[brainbomb]

Sent: Mon Sep 10, 2018 Gerbil Time PM
From: y2kjbk
Recipient: brainbomb

At night, I learned im scum with durga. Holy shit

[Tom Bombadil]

Glad to see this has devolved into drivel.

Lets lynch RHK.
Or yavu
Or ND.

Have mixed feelings on ghug, but I wouldn't lose sleep over him flipping.

[brainbomb]

One strategy for scum is to keep town v town fights alive. So interpreting squiggs unwillingness to lynch tom could imply that was a v vs v matchup.

Im rereading squiggs again.

Brainbomb - Mr Investigator Townclear and frontrunner for town mvp with that scan
Bozotheclown - RIP
Chaqa - Inactive. Null

Damo666 - Seems himself. And by that I mean useless. Although he seems to be talking more than usual this game. Slight townlean.

DemonRHK - A lot of idle chat during N0. Makes a post potentially setting up a scumread on Flash, then apologizes. Finally gets around to posting reads on people, and they seem reachy. Slight scum

■this RHK read looks very different than a bus

Durga - Claims cannon and pledges to shoot it. Retracts, no cannon shot, then reclaims. Whether scum or town, was probably waiting for a better shot. The playstyle seems pretty genuine though, hard to see scum be this ballsy. Slight town pending what happens with the cannon.

■seems odd but its wifom

Flash2015 - Starts with a joke vote during night. Comments on Peterbot. Another joke post about tradition. Shows up in time to shoot MoscowFleet, then leaves. If Flash didn’t shoot MF, I would probably be voting Flash. He has not done anything really at all. But it looks like he is just lurking, reading the thread, and chiming in when he wants to. Maybe Flash is scum who realized that MF was going to die anyway and wanted the towncred of shooting him. Flash, please contribute more or else I might actually vote you. Slight scum.

■has a ton to say here. But also gives flash an out

Ghug - My favorite player to read because I cant read him worth crap. Seems pretty standard ghug this game, if maybe a little more reserved than previous games. Slight town.

■this read says absolutely nothing.

MoscowFleet - Scum

ND - Didnt respond to my question N0, deferred all effort to D1. Still hasn’t put in any effort. Did this last game though and was town. Slight scum.

■says hes playing same meta as last game where he was town but determines hes scum. This potentially clears ND.


Rdrivera2005 - Has made some good comments, pointed out where other people made errors, helpful to town. Townlean, but this is exactly how I felt about rdrivera the last two games.

■uses meta on rivera- but shades him that meta is against him. Makes rivera likely town.

Snowy801 - Hasn’t done anything this game except joke. Why do we have so many inactive people this game? Slight scum.

■points out snowys only act was a joke vote. Was it? This makes snowy suspect


Squigs44 - Town

Tom Bombadil - Starting post has two jokes, and a comment about xorxes cannon plan. Then reverses his thoughts on xorxes cannon plan pretty easily. Votes ND with no explanation. I don’t think Tom has really done anything to help town, and the vibes I am getting from him are off. Scumlean.

■potential bus


Vecna - Pretty standard Vecna. Active, pushing people, makes sense, seems genuine. Town.

■very generous read. Maybe scum wants to keep vecna buddied.

Worcej - Weird reaction to BB’s claim followed by a bad answer when questioned. Basically claims armor at the beginning of the day. Why he would do this under either alignment IDK. Scumlean.

■Probably makes worcej villager


Xorxes - His cannon plan is probably NAI. Has been very talkative, but mostly about mechanics. Has gotten better lately, but still seems pretty meh. Null.

■strange that xorx is a null....

Y2kjbk - Gets off to a real fast start, and has been active, which is solidly in his town meta. Town

■generous

Top two scum are Tom and Worcej, with the third being one of Chaqa, Snowy, ND.

^I doubt any of those 5 are scum. Maybe 1 is. maybe.

Theres likely a scum who squiggs says very little about.

##Vote xorxes

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##Vote xorxes

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xorxes
Day-1 30:13
page 21 Reread Sqiggs. He was not happy with my cannons plan but I'm not sure if that's enough to find him scummy. I don't really know his meta to make much of what I read so far.


Light Xorxes posts to Squiggs Early D1

xorxes
Day-1 25:41
page 24
↑Squigs44: "Rdrivera2005 - Has made some good comments, pointed out where other people made errors, helpful to town. Townlean, but t..."
Could you pinpoint for me which one of his comments you found helpful to town?

He only posted eight times so it should be easy to find.

xorxes
Day-1 25:24
page 24
↑Squigs44: "Chaqa - Inactive. Null
Snowy801 - Hasn’t done anything this game except joke. Why do we have so many inactive people thi..."

Why is one null and the other slight scum, what sets them apart?

xorxes
Day-1 25:18
page 24
↑Squigs44: "After rereading, I realized he hasn't posted as much as I thought. Mostly two comments I guess:
This comment was one...."

All right, I'll let you get away with that one.

​"Also this comment."
The part where he suspects me, or the part where he suspects you?

I'm still waiting for his answer to my "shady comment" too.

xorxes
Day-1 25:12
page 24
↑brainbomb: "This game insofar is what they refer to as a "townstomp".

Mafia lays low and lets little imformation ruin the town. The..."
I will join you with a ##VOTE snowy.

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■Xorxes wanted to wait for moscow to speak possibly to cc
■xorxes gave squiggs some very softball questions and really didnt dig in much
■sheeps me on a snowy lynch
■discusses vecna with squiggs


xorxes
Day-1 24:03
page 24 My current thinking for the scumteam is 1Squigs, 2rivera and one of 3Chaqa/4snowy, and perhaps 5y2k as a first substitute if I'm wrong about one of them

Now suddenly xorxes has squiggs as top scum and uses rule of 5- just like squiggs does.


Xorxes ensuing reads
■vecna town for his cannon reax
■ghug town for posting about night starts
■ND town for being angrier as scum

?

Xorxes votes squiggs- says snowy wont even acknowledge theres a wagon on him

Rivera joins squiggs wagon
Xorxes says it earns him town points


xorxes
Day-1 19:09
page 28 Or shoot Squigs. I'm pretty sure he's scum after his abysmal reads list

■xorxes advises Durga to shoot squiggs for his reads
■xorx accuses vecna of not knowing how items work- thus vecna is scum



xorxes
Day-1 03:06
page 35
↑Squigs44: "Yeah, the reread of Vecna is pretty sad. Not only has Vecna been lurking, but he's been too chill. His latest post espec..."

That is actually a good observation. Not enough to move my vote yet though

■Xorxes is unwilling to move to Vecna
■durga suggests flash shot his own guy
■xorxes says good:

If he is he did us a favor, because the towncred will wear off if he reaches the endgame

The only strange thing here is that durga very heavily feeds off whatever xorxes thinks.

[xorxes]

Rdrivera2005 - Has made some good comments, pointed out where other people made errors, helpful to town. Townlean, but this is exactly how I felt about rdrivera the last two games.

■uses meta on rivera- but shades him that meta is against him. Makes rivera likely town.

I read it differently: Gives the standard positive review of rivera, but then hedges it just in case.

When I pressed him about this read in particular he didn't know where to hide.

[ghug]

Brain, y2k, your job as townclears is not to drown out all discussion with useless drivel. Please chill out.

[brainbomb]

I dunno if Durga is enthralled by xorxes posts- or if theres a possible link here but shes made some strange statements wrt him this game

Saying its his towniest game ever and then going from thinking flash shot moscow for cred to 100% buying xorxes consideration that flash is scum if still alive in lylo so theres nothing to worry about.

If flash is still alive in lylo with durga or xorxes then its likely durga or xorxes are scum

[brainbomb]

Im.just noticing a strange level of almost 'worship' from durga -> xorxes.

##Unvote

Im.not sure they would do this as w/w or if durga just sheeps an unclear like that. I dont understand why shes placing him on such a trememdous elevated pedestal when theres plenty of people who have actually caught scum besides xorx. Is it that hes not scumreading her? Is this his achillies heel?

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Xorx does durga parroting you on numerous occasions seem odd?

[xorxes]

I dont understand why shes placing him on such a trememdous elevated pedestal when theres plenty of people who have actually caught scum besides xorx.

bb, this sounds like you're jealous.

[brainbomb]

I dont understand why shes placing him on such a trememdous elevated pedestal when theres plenty of people who have actually caught scum besides xorx.

bb, this sounds like you're jealous.

Skeptical. But maybe jealous a tiny bit. Its also just strange tho. I can understand liking someones ideas who understands a setup better than I do- I can understand her thinking you are very smart and good at this.

Im just a bit surprised you arent the least bit paranoid by that

[xorxes]

Xorx does durga parroting you on numerous occasions seem odd?

Nope, I'm not getting any vibes that she's trying to buddy me. And the chances that she is scum and just messed up with her cannon are slim.

[brainbomb]

Youre a bit too calm. Town loses alot of games that start off going well for them. You have to overturn some stones and dig in. You keep talking in EVENTUALITIES about lylo- and later- and massclaim later.

Fact is the next few nk's yield no info.
The next few days are more likely statistically to all be town mislynches by probability alone.

Im not really seeing a sense of urgency or concern. Frankly Im very concerned. Town almost always loses games where they prosper early.

[brainbomb]

Id like to do a really idiotic risky lynch to find a deep busser today while we have time. Something conspirathetical that isnt obvious. Like lynching you for example

[xorxes]

Youre a bit too calm. Town loses alot of games that start off going well for them. You have to overturn some stones and dig in. You keep talking in EVENTUALITIES about lylo- and later- and massclaim later.

Fact is the next few nk's yield no info.
The next few days are more likely statistically to all be town mislynches by probability alone.

Im not really seeing a sense of urgency or concern. Frankly Im very concerned. Town almost always loses games where they prosper early.

Yes, it's something to be aware of. I'm thinking we should do a massclaim tomorrow after repair-kit has had a chance to do their thing if they are town. What do you think?

[brainbomb]

I suppose I would be dead around then. And youll be the town voice of calm soothing reason. Just hope that cliff up ahead is well marked after you take the wheel

[xorxes]

Id like to do a really idiotic risky lynch to find a deep busser today while we have time. Something conspirathetical that isnt obvious. Like lynching you for example

Town is apparently doing well so let's do something idiotic, brilliant.

[ND]

Honestly Xorxes seems really defensive imo. I think it's a good chance he flips scum. ##VOTE XORXES