M80 Game Thread

[Foxcastle]

what time is eod?

Just under 23 hours from now.

[sweetandcool]

I mean, sure, but he also said he's nervous as either alignment (though he's only played one prior game?), so while I guess it would be NAI behavior, I do think the way he's been responding to me hasn't been in good faith and he hasn't really answered the questions I'm throwing at him. Instead, he's jumped into voting me for ??? reasons. This doesn't really tell me he's nervous because he's worried how people will view him, it feels more nervous that someone is poking at him when he doesn't want to be poked, so he's trying to throw the first punch.

It's pretty difficult to answer you when you haven't clarified the questions.

I already asked once, I'll ask again, what do you want from me?

I think it's pretty obvious to everybody why I am currently voting for you.

I think the reason you're voting X is because you got a bad vibe from the start and various followup interactions have not changed that. This comes from skimming your posts, so I'm not doing this to harass or goad you, I really do want to understand your thinking. Is my understanding broadly accurate?

That's true too, but mainly it was a reactionary vote that didn't necessarily mean anything substantial.

[Kakarroto]

what time is eod?

In like ... 22 hours and 45 minutes, I think?

[Bonatogether]

brain vs eden confuses me

i can't understand why that's the hill they decided they need to die on

[sweetandcool]

Alright, sum up what you want me to answer and I will give it a try.

I am capable of abstract thought. I know how I would feel and how I would behave if I were Mafia. Perhaps it is unhelpful to make comments about how I would behave as either alignment, but it does help paint an accurate and consistent picture as to how I should be behaving.

I'm happy to help solve regardless of alignment. If I'm town, solving is good. If I'm Mafia, solving throws suspicion off of me.

Oops, I did it again (;

I mean, you've played a single game, it's kind of weird to be stating that you know how you'd play as either alignment. I've been playing this game for over ten years and I still don't know how I'll play games when I enter. I think that you trying to vote me is an OMGUS vote had no reasons behind it. I think you've been unnecessarily self aware about things that don't need commenting. I also haven't felt much wolf hunting from you and think you've been trying to create content for yourself by playing into this newbie role talking needlessly about hypotheticals that exist in your mind (we don't know how you'd actually play as either alignment since there is no history).

Give me two players you'd shoot right now and why. Also give me two players you'd want to protect and why.

"by playing into this newbie role" okay, I don't think there is much that is going to knock me off of voting X for D1. Sorry everybody, but it must be done.

Now, to respond to the rest: I don't know about you, but I am capable of abstraction. I can use logic, I can imagine, I can do all of the same things any other human can. So I find it insulting that you think I'm so stupid that I wouldn't know myself and how I would behave in a hypothetical situation.

My OMGUS (whatever that means) vote, was clearly due to my repeated warnings for others to stop harping on my experience level. You have ignored that warning time and again. I almost certainly would have changed my vote when a suitable candidate came along, but not now. That is, the vote was obviously not serious, except for in the sense that it was a warning.

If your complaint is that I'm not doing enough wolf hunting, then maybe you can do me a favour and stop harping on this piddly nonsense, and then maybe I could focus on things that matter.

Oops, didn't answer your last question:

On D1, particularly this D1, I couldn't give you two players I would shoot now, let alone one. This game nobody has actually pinged me, except you, but not nearly enough for me to scumread you.

Two players I would protect is easy.

Kak, which I explained already, you can check peterbot, I'm not explaining again.

Brainbomb, because their argument with President Eden, while aggravating, just seemed pretty town, especially the really raw emotional moment where they wanted one of them to go.

[Bonatogether]

i dont remember this and may not have read it but I don't know how I would know if that is something yall normally do or not.

It was on page 23 and I think Ghug should apologise for it.

I don't think it's appropriate in a public forum to call someone else a child molester, even in jest.

I do think ghug was joking, there was just no other way to process it. I did just make a cringy sex joke, and Bonatogether is kind of young (but not that young), so I can understand the joke.

But I also think you are right that it's a pretty tasteless joke (though mine probably was too).

i turned 18 just last week

now i'm mature

[sweetandcool]

brain vs eden confuses me

i can't understand why that's the hill they decided they need to die on

That's how I was feeling about it. They both were acting much more emotional than I would expect. Apparently there might be some hard feelings from some previous event?

[Kakarroto]

brain vs eden confuses me

i can't understand why that's the hill they decided they need to die on

to be honest, while I read them, in the middle of it I noticed I didn't understand anymore what I read exactly and just saw letters. Before the whole, I thought both are more likely town anyway and filed that under tvt and let it be.

Maybe we have to come back to it in a later day, but I don't think we will find mafia by doing so.

But be my guest, if you solve it, I'm sure something good can come out of it, I just don't think it has to do with alignments, more like personal miscommunication.

[Jamiet99uk]

I liked the comment my posts are anchor posts. Anchoring on page 30.

Add the X guy, Jamiet and Eden to my not kill D1 list and Damo to my decent targets list.

How come I'm on your do not kill list? Also, I have opposite vibes right now on Jamie and Damo. I still think there is something disingenuous about the way Jaime is posting. I thought that Damo's catchup had some decent takes and I didn't think he was just posting to feel like he needed to catch up with things and appear active. What are you seeing that I'm not?

I asked you if you have any questions for me.

You ignore me when I directly address you, yet you continue to throw shade on me.

Dislike.

[pyxxy]

I don't want to vote Bunnygo anymore because I do think he's pulling a bit and will show up and post.

Of the wagons: I think Sweet is town; I don't want to vote Bozo or Brain or ghug; Eden or Bona could be possibilities, maybe X if I give into a purely reactive read. Of the low(er)-posters: Dousing and Pyxxy are possibilities to pressure vote, but I think Damo is likely town.

if you like dousing or pyxxy as pressure votes, why don't you like bozo as pressure vote?

this is a weak sauce post and honestly I feel like a lot of your posts have been weak sauce

flavor posts have been stellar and I love your prof pic

[sweetandcool]

I liked the comment my posts are anchor posts. Anchoring on page 30.

Add the X guy, Jamiet and Eden to my not kill D1 list and Damo to my decent targets list.

How come I'm on your do not kill list? Also, I have opposite vibes right now on Jamie and Damo. I still think there is something disingenuous about the way Jaime is posting. I thought that Damo's catchup had some decent takes and I didn't think he was just posting to feel like he needed to catch up with things and appear active. What are you seeing that I'm not?

I asked you if you have any questions for me.

You ignore me when I directly address you, yet you continue to throw shade on me.

Dislike.

And heaven forbid you don't "answer their questions" even if the questions are unclear.

[Kakarroto]

I don't want to vote Bunnygo anymore because I do think he's pulling a bit and will show up and post.

Of the wagons: I think Sweet is town; I don't want to vote Bozo or Brain or ghug; Eden or Bona could be possibilities, maybe X if I give into a purely reactive read. Of the low(er)-posters: Dousing and Pyxxy are possibilities to pressure vote, but I think Damo is likely town.

if you like dousing or pyxxy as pressure votes, why don't you like bozo as pressure vote?

this is a weak sauce post and honestly I feel like a lot of your posts have been weak sauce

flavor posts have been stellar and I love your prof pic

yeah, I don't know, I've maybe lost it. I don't have a maf read right now and feel like swimming without ground. Maybe I should take a break, it's been some time since I sat down and it's after midnight here.

Thanks for the compliments though, very appreciated

[Kakarroto]

though I kinda want to see jamies answers to my questions so I shall stay a bit longer

[Jamiet99uk]

hmm, maybe I missed a good time to ask but currently I'm interested in jamie's thoughts, so:

Dear Jamie, what is your impression of pyxxy currently? Do you think they deserve the 'low poster' label from foxcastle?

I have this strange null feeling about ghug, currently. How do you feel about it? Is it close to mine where he kinda blends in a bit or do you have a clearer picture for ghug as mafia or town? And if so, what is it that made you think that way, maybe a post or something else?

Pixie isn't one of the lowest posters, certainly not egregiously so.

I think Ghug has been very low-investment this game. He's less present, less active, less involved, than he normally is. His push on me, to be honest, feels fake. Like "Oh I haven't got much time, it's normal for me to scumread Jamie, so I'd better find a reason to go for Jamie"...

[Jamiet99uk]

what time is eod?

About 22.5 hours.

[President Eden]

My early towncore is worcej, Eden & brain.

swap eden with bona and sprinkle in some ghug

Oh, pyxxy, while you are here, I'd like to ask you some bits!

What do you think about brainbomb right now? Anything that you noticed is out of his town character?

What are your thoughts on bona? You had some games where he played too, right? Anything from those that help in the current game?

Also, how do you see Xcution right now? Since it is x's first game here, something that you noticed? Or did you read the champs game where ghug and x played?

bb is bb, lean town
bona hasn't done enough from what I've ingested, lean scum
Xcution hasn't made an impression on me, I think the posting style is one that doesn't instantly mesh with me

I rarely read games I don't play in. Life's too short

Did you know that Jamiet was voting Bozo when you voted Bozo?

@pyx — I know a few hours passed between these posts, but what changed regarding Bona here?

[Kakarroto]

hmm, maybe I missed a good time to ask but currently I'm interested in jamie's thoughts, so:

Dear Jamie, what is your impression of pyxxy currently? Do you think they deserve the 'low poster' label from foxcastle?

I have this strange null feeling about ghug, currently. How do you feel about it? Is it close to mine where he kinda blends in a bit or do you have a clearer picture for ghug as mafia or town? And if so, what is it that made you think that way, maybe a post or something else?

Pixie isn't one of the lowest posters, certainly not egregiously so.

I think Ghug has been very low-investment this game. He's less present, less active, less involved, than he normally is. His push on me, to be honest, feels fake. Like "Oh I haven't got much time, it's normal for me to scumread Jamie, so I'd better find a reason to go for Jamie"...

and what impression did pyxxy leave in your mind?

I wouldn't call his push fake, but I wouldn't call it true either, so maybe I should have a look at it again to make up my mind. The rest though I can totally understand, I feel the same here, like a null read without commitment.

But yeah, good point, I'll have a look into that vote tomorrow, thanks!

[Bonatogether]

Harbour
Labour
Flavour
Maths
Jewellery
Fulfill
Brother
Chequer
Doughnut
Kerb
Liquorice
Mould
Plough
Sulphur
Tyre
Pyrate

Oh he said maths too!

That's right, Maths, because it's short for "Mathematics".

Not "Math" because it's not "Mathematic".

only in britain is the middle part of words cut out to shorten

[Bonatogether]

I feel bad after this heuristic only worked by accident last game, but Kak posting early and then going silent continues to be a bad look.

I do not like it either. Town core should be active right now. Kak, you've got a few people who think you are town, care to speak up and participate?

Perhaps give them a couple more hours. People have things to do IRL too.

imagine posting this in the middle of the day

[ghug]

Okay but you're not really addressing the points I've been making about you. It's fine that you're new, but you being this self aware and then trying to say 'wolf Sweet would do this' or 'I act this way as either alignment' makes no sense to me if this is only your second game. It has nothing to do with newness, but what you're saying and how you're acting despite being new.

Alright, sum up what you want me to answer and I will give it a try.

I am capable of abstract thought. I know how I would feel and how I would behave if I were Mafia. Perhaps it is unhelpful to make comments about how I would behave as either alignment, but it does help paint an accurate and consistent picture as to how I should be behaving.

I'm happy to help solve regardless of alignment. If I'm town, solving is good. If I'm Mafia, solving throws suspicion off of me.

Oops, I did it again (;

I mean, you've played a single game, it's kind of weird to be stating that you know how you'd play as either alignment. I've been playing this game for over ten years and I still don't know how I'll play games when I enter. I think that you trying to vote me is an OMGUS vote had no reasons behind it. I think you've been unnecessarily self aware about things that don't need commenting. I also haven't felt much wolf hunting from you and think you've been trying to create content for yourself by playing into this newbie role talking needlessly about hypotheticals that exist in your mind (we don't know how you'd actually play as either alignment since there is no history).

Give me two players you'd shoot right now and why. Also give me two players you'd want to protect and why.

Isn't not understanding that they wouldn't understand how they'd play as scum town indicative?