M80 Game Thread

[Kakarroto]

Oh, pyxxy, while you are here, I'd like to ask you some bits!

What do you think about brainbomb right now? Anything that you noticed is out of his town character?

What are your thoughts on bona? You had some games where he played too, right? Anything from those that help in the current game?

Also, how do you see Xcution right now? Since it is x's first game here, something that you noticed? Or did you read the champs game where ghug and x played?

bb is bb, lean town
bona hasn't done enough from what I've ingested, lean scum
Xcution hasn't made an impression on me, I think the posting style is one that doesn't instantly mesh with me

I rarely read games I don't play in. Life's too short

Did you know that Jamiet was voting Bozo when you voted Bozo?

Yes, I think though that didn't really factor in, I just wanted bozo to make more posts so I can read him better for that. That's why I didn't vote Bunny (because he will just ignore the vote and nothing gained) or brain (since even when I don't like what he posted towards me I can at least read from his posts that he is probably town this game). Though I'm not sure how effective the pressuring is now towards bozo with all the explaining. Ah well, for now it wont hurt at least.

[brainbomb]

I cannot comment on myself, rdr is very difficult, pyxxy difficult though haven't played as much, bozo sometimes implodes.

I dont feel any particular way about this, but it makes me feel like I am not alone in thinking these slots are challenging to sort out

[Kakarroto]

[...] I learned that I have zero friends on this forum, and my aggressive play is off putting. [...]

I always saw you as someone who is a friend, especially in the early days when I was here

but after a while, you began to not react to me little by little and somehow I think your to go state now is to maf read me and just ignore me. And I don't know why that happened. Did I do something wrong?

[rdrivera2005]

before my topic about those 4, the game was still 20 pages of pirate drivel, champs drama, which mafia forum site is better, tolstoy books, and shitposting

And what you think you achieved with this exchange with Eden.

And why you ignored my answer where I gave an answer about reading that players?

Im actively working on part 2 with you and damo's answers. I learned that I have zero friends on this forum, and my aggressive play is off putting. And even when im onto something very real and very solid, people ignore it because all they see is asshole brainbomb barrelling in again harassing people.

I don't think you are an asshole and my comments are just about your arguments that I don't agree (re: worrying with low posters at start of the game). We had this same discussion before and it's nothing personal with you.

[brainbomb]

[...] I learned that I have zero friends on this forum, and my aggressive play is off putting. [...]

I always saw you as someone who is a friend, especially in the early days when I was here

but after a while, you began to not react to me little by little and somehow I think your to go state now is to maf read me and just ignore me. And I don't know why that happened. Did I do something wrong?

You did not do anything wrong man. I feel like a few games back with you I hard defended you and you were town, and everyone turned on you. but hell I cant keep my games straight.

So lets say I take you off of my scumlist. and consider this convo real, not AtE, but youre geniunely just like, hey man, stop tunnelling me all the time. Okay. Suppose we go that route. whats next

[brainbomb]

And what you think you achieved with this exchange with Eden.

And why you ignored my answer where I gave an answer about reading that players?

Im actively working on part 2 with you and damo's answers. I learned that I have zero friends on this forum, and my aggressive play is off putting. And even when im onto something very real and very solid, people ignore it because all they see is asshole brainbomb barrelling in again harassing people.

I don't think you are an asshole and my comments are just about your arguments that I don't agree (re: worrying with low posters at start of the game). We had this same discussion before and it's nothing personal with you.

Sometimes it is hard to tell if you are mad at me or if you are frustrated, I really cant always tell. Im not talking about killing low posters. im not even saying I scumread them. All I wanted from that whole thing was a dialogue about those players in particular. meta, stories, discussion, history, ect.

[sweetandcool]

As far as all the null reads go:

On one hand, voting low posters is sad, because they just might not be able to write anything very often. On the other hand, it's aggravating because it seems that low posting is the route to a safe D1, which it really shouldn't be. Lurking doesn't help Town, but D1 is full of nonsense anyways.

I'm willing to give the likes of rdr, damo, bozo, even bunny, a free pass for one single day. I hope for at least one substantial post, or I'll be disappointed. Otherwise, my expectations are low D1.

That being said, if nobody stands out as someone to vote for, I will default to one of the low posters. Probably bozo at this point, maybe someone else.

So far, my only strong opinion is Kak being town. I'm townleaning President Eden and Brainbomb.

I am uneasy about X.

[brainbomb]

##Vote bonatogether

[sweetandcool]

As far as all the null reads go:

On one hand, voting low posters is sad, because they just might not be able to write anything very often. On the other hand, it's aggravating because it seems that low posting is the route to a safe D1, which it really shouldn't be. Lurking doesn't help Town, but D1 is full of nonsense anyways.

I'm willing to give the likes of rdr, damo, bozo, even bunny, a free pass for one single day. I hope for at least one substantial post, or I'll be disappointed. Otherwise, my expectations are low D1.

That being said, if nobody stands out as someone to vote for, I will default to one of the low posters. Probably bozo at this point, maybe someone else.

So far, my only strong opinion is Kak being town. I'm townleaning President Eden and Brainbomb.

I am uneasy about X.

That being said, if I was being my own authentic self, I would probably be a D1 low poster. But I feel a responsibility to post, because it wouldn't be fun for others if I just lurked and didn't contribute.

[Foxcastle]

but if there are none currently, then

@Foxcastle, what do you think of the exchange between brain and eden? Did you figure out the alignment of one or both? Anything that makes you scratch your head about it? Someone reacting to that that caught your eye?

Eden seems more aggrieved right out of the gate than I would have expected, Brain's pique looks genuine. I don't think it's likely that it's scum-v-scum, but I think think it's totally impossible for those two on Day 1.

[Jamiet99uk]

Finally catched up.

This game have been hard to follow.

Let us have your thoughts please.

Reads?

[Foxcastle]

How does one tell Bona's and Kak's alignment?

[Xcution]

I liked the comment my posts are anchor posts. Anchoring on page 30.

Add the X guy, Jamiet and Eden to my not kill D1 list and Damo to my decent targets list.

How come I'm on your do not kill list? Also, I have opposite vibes right now on Jamie and Damo. I still think there is something disingenuous about the way Jaime is posting. I thought that Damo's catchup had some decent takes and I didn't think he was just posting to feel like he needed to catch up with things and appear active. What are you seeing that I'm not?

[ghug]

I cannot comment on myself, rdr is very difficult, pyxxy difficult though haven't played as much, bozo sometimes implodes.

I dont feel any particular way about this, but it makes me feel like I am not alone in thinking these slots are challenging to sort out

You're not. I'm fully in agreement on Rd and bozo. I basically just PoE them every game.

I find it relatively easy to discern motivation from damo's posting, but there aren't tells per se. Pyxxy I just haven't played with enough to have a strong meta basis.

[Kakarroto]

[...] I learned that I have zero friends on this forum, and my aggressive play is off putting. [...]

I always saw you as someone who is a friend, especially in the early days when I was here

but after a while, you began to not react to me little by little and somehow I think your to go state now is to maf read me and just ignore me. And I don't know why that happened. Did I do something wrong?

You did not do anything wrong man. I feel like a few games back with you I hard defended you and you were town, and everyone turned on you. but hell I cant keep my games straight.

So lets say I take you off of my scumlist. and consider this convo real, not AtE, but youre geniunely just like, hey man, stop tunnelling me all the time. Okay. Suppose we go that route. whats next

I ... what? Tunnelling you? I thought I read you most often as town, not mafia. I think there was also a game where you were mafia and I still thought you were town and people didn't like my read after the flip.

And I have no problem with you mafreading me, that I can easily deal with since it's nothing personal just a game, what I don't like is that you shut down communication when you think I'm mafia and don't answer to questions or have a dialog. I'm not even sure you are aware of doing that.

And talking about that game where you defended me ... I guess? I think I hazily remember something like that, but I'm not sure anymore if in that game you were town. So if you were, you did read me correctly. But I mostly remember that in the last games you tend to ignore me and put me into the maf corner fast. Maybe I'm remembering wrong and I have wrong proportions about how it truly is, but it at least stayed in my mind.

Anyway, what I wanted to say is that I like you personally and am friendly to you, even if sometimes you can make me (or other people, mostly other people) mad. But that's fine, that even can be a good point for the game (and mostly is, I think), just a little less of ignoring and little more of communicating even when you think I am mafia would be nice and would also make for a more fun game.

[Xcution]

Haze probably isn’t mafia if s&c is

This kind of feels like an early dismissal.

Eden did expand on this, though, after I questioned him.

I did see that afterwards. I try to read at work and post where I can, so I imagine my responses might look disjointed at times.

[Foxcastle]

I don't want to vote Bunnygo anymore because I do think he's pulling a bit and will show up and post.

Of the wagons: I think Sweet is town; I don't want to vote Bozo or Brain or ghug; Eden or Bona could be possibilities, maybe X if I give into a purely reactive read. Of the low(er)-posters: Dousing and Pyxxy are possibilities to pressure vote, but I think Damo is likely town.

[Xcution]

You appear to be very fixated on people's perceptions of you.

I think this leads credence to Sweet playing a nervous game. I don't like that they tried to say they play nervous as either alignment and that would Sweet would act a certain way, when this is only their second game? I just don't understand how you can harp on your 'newness' but then try to make claims such as these.

In his last game, as town, Sweet said something to the effect that he is nervous about how other players will view him (I forget if he said that he modulated his posts as a result). So I don't think this is scum-indicative.

I mean, sure, but he also said he's nervous as either alignment (though he's only played one prior game?), so while I guess it would be NAI behavior, I do think the way he's been responding to me hasn't been in good faith and he hasn't really answered the questions I'm throwing at him. Instead, he's jumped into voting me for ??? reasons. This doesn't really tell me he's nervous because he's worried how people will view him, it feels more nervous that someone is poking at him when he doesn't want to be poked, so he's trying to throw the first punch.

[Kakarroto]

How does one tell Bona's and Kak's alignment?

you take the number of shit and flavour posts, divide it by the participating players then take this number and add all of the upvotes those posts got and subtract any upvotes they gave.

After that, you plant three seeds at the exact temperature and wait a season to see if they bloom into a full grown plant, if they do, you call chaqa over who decides if you can smoke it or not and that is your answer you are searching for.

[Kakarroto]

I don't want to vote Bunnygo anymore because I do think he's pulling a bit and will show up and post.

Of the wagons: I think Sweet is town; I don't want to vote Bozo or Brain or ghug; Eden or Bona could be possibilities, maybe X if I give into a purely reactive read. Of the low(er)-posters: Dousing and Pyxxy are possibilities to pressure vote, but I think Damo is likely town.

if you like dousing or pyxxy as pressure votes, why don't you like bozo as pressure vote?