M80 Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

if you arent willing to update your lists, or make your stances clear I will be voting you the rest of the game until youre dead.

this is becoming toxic and one of us needs to die very soon. today please.

Chill out, Beancomb

[pyxxy]

wait brain would you like me to link some games I've played on TheSyndicate or MU? same username on both sites

[brainbomb]

wait brain would you like me to link some games I've played on TheSyndicate or MU? same username on both sites

sure. that seems like a decent idea.

[Kakarroto]

Unfortunately it isn't summer here now so no beach.

Google says the weather forecast for Rio tomorrow is 26 degrees centigrade. From a UK perspective, that's hot.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't live in Rio. Where I live it's 20 degrees now and 12 degrees at night. Not cold for UK perspective but not hot.

Fahrenheit fans are in shambles.

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't do drugs during working hours except for caffeine and very occasionally alcohol. You'll see how much smarter I get when I start mainlining ketamine at 5:01.

So, uh, why did you mistake Prez. Eden for me?

Jamie he wasn’t actually mistaking us it was a joke buddy

I see.

I prefer jokes that are funny.

[Chaqa]

(the following is only flavor)

DAY 1 INTERLUDE

Jimothy the Cabin Boy studied the map in his small room. Captain Fredbeard had handed it to him and told him to "learn it well, if ye e'er want to be a true sailor" before throwing an empty bottle over his head and laughing as he walked away, heading back to the yelling and chaos going on above deck.

Jimothy was starting to regret his choice to come aboard, but was thankful he wasn't yet truly part of the crew, and could sit in his small room behind the pantry.

Maybe I'll start tracking our progress on the map, he thinks...

DiploWorld

[President Eden]

at least dont lie to the other players and pretend this is because im scummy. this is just because you dont wanna play in the game with me. which you guys could just say im not allowed to play if thats what you want.

I pretty candidly stated that I struggle to be objective with you because you engage in behaviors I find scummy regardless of your actual alignment.

You have been twisting my words, engaging in melodramatics, selectively ignoring messages that don’t make your point, and dishonestly engaging with me and with the thread to try to convince people to kill me. These are all behaviors I really want to be coming from scum.

Unfortunately ample past experience has taught me that this is simply how you operate. So I struggle to separate brain being scum from brain being brain.

[President Eden]

(the following is only flavor)

DAY 1 INTERLUDE

Jimothy the Cabin Boy studied the map in his small room. Captain Fredbeard had handed it to him and told him to "learn it well, if ye e'er want to be a true sailor" before throwing an empty bottle over his head and laughing as he walked away, heading back to the yelling and chaos going on above deck.

Jimothy was starting to regret his choice to come aboard, but was thankful he wasn't yet truly part of the crew, and could sit in his small room behind the pantry.

Maybe I'll start tracking our progress on the map, he thinks...

DiploWorld

yep, this is going in my Unfathomably Cursed Maps compilation

[brainbomb]

at least dont lie to the other players and pretend this is because im scummy. this is just because you dont wanna play in the game with me. which you guys could just say im not allowed to play if thats what you want.

I pretty candidly stated that I struggle to be objective with you because you engage in behaviors I find scummy regardless of your actual alignment.

You have been twisting my words, engaging in melodramatics, selectively ignoring messages that don’t make your point, and dishonestly engaging with me and with the thread to try to convince people to kill me. These are all behaviors I really want to be coming from scum.

Unfortunately ample past experience has taught me that this is simply how you operate. So I struggle to separate brain being scum from brain being brain.

The reason I struggle with this reply is youve never expressed this challenge reading me in the past and youve always come around the more logical answer in each iteration. Here it seems like you want the trench to get deeper and deeper and you arent even rereading my posts in good faith when ive engaged other players. instead youve stuck to the same concept that im scum for this quasi manipulation angle, and you keep repeating it over and over for everytime I present something youve said which either had a dangling point, or no point at all, or an inconsistent point. and instead of clarifying, updating and expanding your points you retreat back into defense mode and victimspace.

you can keep saying im lying about you, but when half my posts are quotes of yours, where I try to understand what youre doing, you claim im misrepping you

[President Eden]

So, any questions you have for me? Any wisdom you want me to share? Any secrets that interest you?

I don’t quite get what changed your mind about me.

Do you have active suspicions among people who have posted more than a few times? I see your vote attempt on bozo but I assume this is less suspicion and more pressure (but perhaps a bit of both)

well, I noticed in my past games, that my early reads are usually bad (big surprise) but I also noticed that from worcej, we both seem to be the same in that regard, pick up something subconsciously that flows into our reads but turns out as a red herring. Sometimes worcej and I have an idea that is genius to read mafia, but usually that is with more evidence than just 'I feel'. Since I noticed that about both of us, I think it's save to say that it's a good fail save that when both of us have a maf read D1 based on feelings, it's most likely wrong, so I'm just executing this logic now.

yeah, bozo is practically pressure. Sure, he could be mafia, but he's practically a null, just with a naked vote. I also thought about pressuring bunny, but I concluded with all what he is doing, pressure voting would do nothing towards bunny and he is prepared for that, so every vote for bunny is a vote for a removal right now, at least in my eyes, so not much to gain there just to park a vote, and that is not my intent.

Surprisingly, as I said, I don't have this feeling of big suspicion I normally have, even the voice for ghug is silent right now and ghug is pretty much a big null for me. Which makes me think that I read ghug wrongly and he is mafia but then again this is just convoluted thinking and probably just a wrong thought.

So yeah, my goal r ight now is to clear more things up and get a better read, but as I said, nothing strikes me as explicitly suspicious.

What are your thoughts on s&c?

[sweetandcool]

ig the above mentions that you are new and it does seem posible that you havent been asked this in a few games, compared to like more than a few.

##unvote

random pop in but I also didn't realize sweet was new but once I did I voted elsewhere as I think he's (?) hitting the right newbie notes

I mean, this is my 2nd game, no need to keep the kid gloves on. We can stop mentioning my experience level, really.

[Kakarroto]

I don’t quite get what changed your mind about me.

Do you have active suspicions among people who have posted more than a few times? I see your vote attempt on bozo but I assume this is less suspicion and more pressure (but perhaps a bit of both)

well, I noticed in my past games, that my early reads are usually bad (big surprise) but I also noticed that from worcej, we both seem to be the same in that regard, pick up something subconsciously that flows into our reads but turns out as a red herring. Sometimes worcej and I have an idea that is genius to read mafia, but usually that is with more evidence than just 'I feel'. Since I noticed that about both of us, I think it's save to say that it's a good fail save that when both of us have a maf read D1 based on feelings, it's most likely wrong, so I'm just executing this logic now.

yeah, bozo is practically pressure. Sure, he could be mafia, but he's practically a null, just with a naked vote. I also thought about pressuring bunny, but I concluded with all what he is doing, pressure voting would do nothing towards bunny and he is prepared for that, so every vote for bunny is a vote for a removal right now, at least in my eyes, so not much to gain there just to park a vote, and that is not my intent.

Surprisingly, as I said, I don't have this feeling of big suspicion I normally have, even the voice for ghug is silent right now and ghug is pretty much a big null for me. Which makes me think that I read ghug wrongly and he is mafia but then again this is just convoluted thinking and probably just a wrong thought.

So yeah, my goal r ight now is to clear more things up and get a better read, but as I said, nothing strikes me as explicitly suspicious.

What are your thoughts on s&c?

sweet is currently my highest townread, even above bona

[Chaqa]

##CALL GM

Would non-posting, but hiting +1 lots of times, and then making a naked vote with no other posts, meet the requirement for "active participation" in the rules?

Never answered this.

I think the answer is no.

[Kakarroto]

also, I seem in my grievance to have forgotten to correctly vote bozo to pressure him, so time to rectify that

##vote bozotheclown

also if chaqa accepts any vote with even one spelling mistake, I'm really going to be angry

[brainbomb]

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
BunnyGo
damo666
Dousing
Foxcastle
ghug
HaZe
Jamiet99uk
Kakarroto
President Eden
pyxxy
rdrivera2005
sweetandcool
worcej
Xcution


green = town
yellow = null
red = scum

[sweetandcool]

Google says the weather forecast for Rio tomorrow is 26 degrees centigrade. From a UK perspective, that's hot.

Unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't live in Rio. Where I live it's 20 degrees now and 12 degrees at night. Not cold for UK perspective but not hot.

Fahrenheit fans are in shambles.

Just convert. As me Mum used to say: Multiply by two, subtract a few, and add thirty-two.

You'll always be accurate within a few degrees, which is enough.

Or, if you like fractions (I certainly do) and you want to be precise, you can multiply by two, subtract 1/5 of the original value, and add thirty-two.

E.g. 20*2 - 4 + 32 = 68 Fahrenheit.

[Kakarroto]

(the following is only flavor)

DAY 1 INTERLUDE

Jimothy the Cabin Boy studied the map in his small room. Captain Fredbeard had handed it to him and told him to "learn it well, if ye e'er want to be a true sailor" before throwing an empty bottle over his head and laughing as he walked away, heading back to the yelling and chaos going on above deck.

Jimothy was starting to regret his choice to come aboard, but was thankful he wasn't yet truly part of the crew, and could sit in his small room behind the pantry.

Maybe I'll start tracking our progress on the map, he thinks...

DiploWorld

yep, this is going in my Unfathomably Cursed Maps compilation

[Kakarroto]

Unfortunately (or fortunately) I don't live in Rio. Where I live it's 20 degrees now and 12 degrees at night. Not cold for UK perspective but not hot.

Fahrenheit fans are in shambles.

Just convert. As me Mum used to say: Multiply by two, subtract a few, and add thirty-two.

You'll always be accurate within a few degrees, which is enough.

Or, if you like fractions (I certainly do) and you want to be precise, you can multiply by two, subtract 1/5 of the original value, and add thirty-two.

E.g. 20*2 - 4 + 32 = 68 Fahrenheit.

[sweetandcool]

at least dont lie to the other players and pretend this is because im scummy. this is just because you dont wanna play in the game with me. which you guys could just say im not allowed to play if thats what you want.

I pretty candidly stated that I struggle to be objective with you because you engage in behaviors I find scummy regardless of your actual alignment.

You have been twisting my words, engaging in melodramatics, selectively ignoring messages that don’t make your point, and dishonestly engaging with me and with the thread to try to convince people to kill me. These are all behaviors I really want to be coming from scum.

Unfortunately ample past experience has taught me that this is simply how you operate. So I struggle to separate brain being scum from brain being brain.

The reason I struggle with this reply is youve never expressed this challenge reading me in the past and youve always come around the more logical answer in each iteration. Here it seems like you want the trench to get deeper and deeper and you arent even rereading my posts in good faith when ive engaged other players. instead youve stuck to the same concept that im scum for this quasi manipulation angle, and you keep repeating it over and over for everytime I present something youve said which either had a dangling point, or no point at all, or an inconsistent point. and instead of clarifying, updating and expanding your points you retreat back into defense mode and victimspace.

you can keep saying im lying about you, but when half my posts are quotes of yours, where I try to understand what youre doing, you claim im misrepping you

To be fair, you do keep misrepresenting President Eden. I'm sure it's innocent, but you keep antagonizing them by misunderstanding them constantly. Maybe you can refrain from putting words in their mouth (from your perspective I assume you are just trying to say what you think President Eden thinks, as a confirmation of understanding).

[pyxxy]

wait brain would you like me to link some games I've played on TheSyndicate or MU? same username on both sites

sure. that seems like a decent idea.

my best scum game - https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2495
my worst scum game - https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/39251
my laziest scum game - https://mafiathesyndicate.com/viewtopic.php?t=2508

my MU db - https://www.mafiauniverse.com/database/ ... 20Universe

lemme know if you want specific town games (e.g. wins, losses, ones where I felt good about my performance, or bad, early NK or made FX, etc)