MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[damo666]

Why would you not just roleblock me

This is an odd statement indeed.

For him to prove he is the Roleblocker?

Yeah, sorry I see now. I was thinking with the knowledge I now have that he isn't roleblocker.

[sweetandcool]

This gets weirder.

Why would scum Eden visit scumSweet?

Either one of Bona or Sweet are lying [presumably Bona] or Dousing and Sweet were driven and Eden killed Sweet which was redirected to Dousing.

I think this is what happened.

So Bona and Sweet are clear and I'm pretty sure Chaqa is town so Eden's partners are 2 from {Jamie, rdr, Bozo}

Can we take some time thinking about this?

End votes are super scummy right now

Fine, I'll ##UnEND

But I hope my END vote shows how I feel.

[damo666]

This gets weirder.

Why would scum Eden visit scumSweet?

Either one of Bona or Sweet are lying [presumably Bona] or Dousing and Sweet were driven and Eden killed Sweet which was redirected to Dousing.

I think this is what happened.

So Bona and Sweet are clear and I'm pretty sure Chaqa is town so Eden's partners are 2 from {Jamie, rdr, Bozo}

Can we take some time thinking about this?

End votes are super scummy right now

OK ##unend

But I'm not moving off Eden

[damo666]

This gets weirder.

Why would scum Eden visit scumSweet?

Either one of Bona or Sweet are lying [presumably Bona] or Dousing and Sweet were driven and Eden killed Sweet which was redirected to Dousing.

I think this is what happened.

So Bona and Sweet are clear and I'm pretty sure Chaqa is town so Eden's partners are 2 from {Jamie, rdr, Bozo}

Either that or you and Bonatogether are mafia.

From ypov that may be possible but not from mine.

[sweetandcool]

In summary,

Claims made:
1. Eden RB damo.
2. damo not RB.
3. Bona tracked Eden who visited sweetandcool (needs to confirm)
4. sweetandcool guarded Dousing, no PM about RB.

[President Eden]

The doctor asked me if everything is okay because I’m so upset about Eden being dumb

Besides guessing wrong, what exactly was dumb about what I did? I didn’t count on Dousing just disappearing lol.

Dousing had nothing to do with the plan, you just needed to pick a trusted town.

I’d you had said you roleblocked Damo for that reason I’d find it less weird than saying you scum read him….

Candidly, I don’t care if it looks weird.

If you REALLY wanted me to lie about my reasoning then sure, I could have chosen a person I claimed to townread while actually thinking they were mafia. But then I’d have to explain later why I think this person needs to die. And if they happen to confirm they were roleblocked, then I don’t even have an excuse for doing a sudden 180.

You don’t have to like my play. I realized when I did it that if I didn’t stop a kill I had probably thrown the game. I know how hard we punish PRs and PR claimants in these situations.

I accepted the risk because I thought I had a good read on the game state. As it happens, it wasn’t good enough.

[President Eden]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

[dargorygel]

Vote Count Day Four, number 1
President Eden: (5) Bonatogether, damo666, rdrivera2005, sweetandcool, bozotheclown
Bonatogether: (1) President Eden

Not yet voting: Chaqa, Jamie

Presently, President Eden is on the block.

MUCH time left.

[President Eden]

For the record, I believe I still would have targeted a townread if we had killed s&c or Bona yesterday.

It’s only because we no-killed and created a situation where blocking a kill gives us a miskill back that I believed the gamble made sense.

[sweetandcool]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

Not really. Bona and I are certain you are Mafia and have tirelessly argued for it. Now damo joins the list of people who outright know you are a liar. End votes seem pretty reasonable in this case.

[rdrivera2005]

Besides guessing wrong, what exactly was dumb about what I did? I didn’t count on Dousing just disappearing lol.

Dousing had nothing to do with the plan, you just needed to pick a trusted town.

I’d you had said you roleblocked Damo for that reason I’d find it less weird than saying you scum read him….

Candidly, I don’t care if it looks weird.

If you REALLY wanted me to lie about my reasoning then sure, I could have chosen a person I claimed to townread while actually thinking they were mafia. But then I’d have to explain later why I think this person needs to die. And if they happen to confirm they were roleblocked, then I don’t even have an excuse for doing a sudden 180.

You don’t have to like my play. I realized when I did it that if I didn’t stop a kill I had probably thrown the game. I know how hard we punish PRs and PR claimants in these situations.

I accepted the risk because I thought I had a good read on the game state. As it happens, it wasn’t good enough.

I refuse to believe you are so bad at this game. You want us to believe you hit two scum (and none doing the NK) and the NK target on your 3 RBs attempts.
If you are town we just lost the game and better to end it now.

[President Eden]

Interestingly, I believe this hard clears at least one of rdr or bozo from my perspective, as if they were both mafia, this game would have been over.

I don’t know if this does anything for anyone else though, since it’s contingent on me being town.

[Chaqa]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

[President Eden]

Dousing had nothing to do with the plan, you just needed to pick a trusted town.

I’d you had said you roleblocked Damo for that reason I’d find it less weird than saying you scum read him….

Candidly, I don’t care if it looks weird.

If you REALLY wanted me to lie about my reasoning then sure, I could have chosen a person I claimed to townread while actually thinking they were mafia. But then I’d have to explain later why I think this person needs to die. And if they happen to confirm they were roleblocked, then I don’t even have an excuse for doing a sudden 180.

You don’t have to like my play. I realized when I did it that if I didn’t stop a kill I had probably thrown the game. I know how hard we punish PRs and PR claimants in these situations.

I accepted the risk because I thought I had a good read on the game state. As it happens, it wasn’t good enough.

I refuse to believe you are so bad at this game. You want us to believe you hit two scum (and none doing the NK) and the NK target on your 3 RBs attempts.
If you are town we just lost the game and better to end it now.

Did we though? We have time to talk about it still.

[President Eden]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

[Chaqa]

For the record, I believe I still would have targeted a townread if we had killed s&c or Bona yesterday.

It’s only because we no-killed and created a situation where blocking a kill gives us a miskill back that I believed the gamble made sense.

I’ll humor you. From your perspective Damo is now confScum.

Likewise Bona must be.

What does that make sweet? The third one?

So that means Bona or sweet made the kill

[Chaqa]

I’d say it makes more sense if sweet did it

[Chaqa]

I think the rush of end votes speaks for itself.

Mafia thought they had it.

Tbh I’m finding myself believing Bona much more than you

That’s a shame because I feel like you more than anyone else in this game would appreciate my thinking on this.

Be angry that I blew it for us, sure, but at least understand it.

What I don’t get is being against it and then doing a 180 at EoN

[sweetandcool]

##GM CALL

Sorry for the questions, but can you explain the mechanics of the one shot drive that JOAT has? I swear it isn't explained anywhere in the rules or the link.

[Chaqa]

Shouldn’t we no kill anyway