MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Bonatogether]

@dousing did you get your pr role pm in the first wave or the second ('corrected) wave

This feels pretty borderline rules wise.

agree

it’s also blatantly answered in the OP

ok whatever

we can skip to the conclusion which is i'm right

[Bonatogether]

##GM CALL:

if scum chose role cop or JOAT, one goon's role is changed.

do scum get to choose who becomes what role? or is it random?

##GM NOTE: It is random

thank you

[rdrivera2005]

@Bona and @Sweetandcool- Failure to use your claimed powers in the way all other players request is a scum claim. Sweetandcool guarding Dousing ensures that either scum avoid killing Dousing or that SC dies instead of him. Both cases Dousing got another scan, so there is no better way to play this.
Same to Bona, if he is tracker, seeing where Eden goes is the only way we can resolve the 50/50 between them and failing to do this is a scum claim. Same way, Eden failing to RB the player Dousing indicates is a scum claim.

@Dousing, @Damo, @Jamiet @Bozo, @Chaqa - Please send this same message to Bona and Sweetandcool.

@Dousing- Please indicate a player between the non PR claimants for Eden to Roleblock.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bona and @Sweetandcool- Failure to use your claimed powers in the way all other players request is a scum claim.

Sweetandcool: Guarding Dousing ensures that either scum avoid killing Dousing or that you die instead of him. In both cases, Dousing gets another scan, so there is no better way to play this.

Bona: If you are tracker, seeing where Eden goes is the only way we can resolve the 50/50 between you and Eden, and failing to do this is a scum claim.

Eden: Eden failing to Roleblock the player Dousing indicates is a scum claim.

Rdr has this mechanically right.

[Bonatogether]

i don't understand it but sure

[Chaqa]

This gives big “I am posting this to say I do not give Facebook permission to use my Facebook for data etc.” vibes

[damo666]

@Bona and @Sweetandcool- Failure to use your claimed powers in the way all other players request is a scum claim. Sweetandcool guarding Dousing ensures that either scum avoid killing Dousing or that SC dies instead of him. Both cases Dousing got another scan, so there is no better way to play this.
Same to Bona, if he is tracker, seeing where Eden goes is the only way we can resolve the 50/50 between them and failing to do this is a scum claim. Same way, Eden failing to RB the player Dousing indicates is a scum claim.

@Dousing, @Damo, @Jamiet @Bozo, @Chaqa - Please send this same message to Bona and Sweetandcool.

@Dousing- Please indicate a player between the non PR claimants for Eden to Roleblock.

I agree this plan.

[Bonatogether]

This gives big “I am posting this to say I do not give Facebook permission to use my Facebook for data etc.” vibes

i mean i just don't understand it

[damo666]

This gives big “I am posting this to say I do not give Facebook permission to use my Facebook for data etc.” vibes

i mean i just don't understand it

I find that hard to believe tbh

[Chaqa]

I want to preface this by saying I think Bona is probably scum.

But he is right, this plan is dumb, and yesterday was dumb lol

This plan has a lot of holes in it

[damo666]

I want to preface this by saying I think Bona is probably scum.

But he is right, this plan is dumb, and yesterday was dumb lol

This plan has a lot of holes in it

Explain please.

[Chaqa]

If Eden announces who he is going to RB ahead of time, mafia can do driving shenanigans, likely with Dousing, to cause them to be able to kill whoever and fuck up.

[Chaqa]

if Eden DOESN'T announce it ahead of time, we have no way to verify anything because he can say whatever based off what the night kill is.

[Chaqa]

And he can't drop it at EoN because then Bona can be like "yeah he visited that person"

But then Eden could also lie and pull a "ACTUALLY I DIDNT"

if the person getting roleblocked dies or driving happens, none of it can be confirmed

[Chaqa]

Maybe I'm just not fully understanding. And it's still the best plan we have left to us, but like goddamn we should have just killed one of those two yesterday.

[President Eden]

Maybe I'm just not fully understanding. And it's still the best plan we have left to us, but like goddamn we should have just killed one of those two yesterday.

We are taking the rb out of my control so that I have no ability to deceive town about what I did. That’s why me deviating is a scumclaim.

Unless you’re so sure of me being town that you want me gambling to try to stop the kill and buy another day… but that’s obviously not the case or we wouldn’t even be discussing it.

I agree that it’s got flaws, and it became much worse as a plan when we didn’t kill s&c, because he’s virtually confirmed scum and that would have bought an extra day if we got the 50/50 wrong. But we’re here now and it’s the best of a bad situation

[Chaqa]

You should roleblock Bona again just for fun

[rdrivera2005]

And he can't drop it at EoN because then Bona can be like "yeah he visited that person"

But then Eden could also lie and pull a "ACTUALLY I DIDNT"

if the person getting roleblocked dies or driving happens, none of it can be confirmed

Mafia doesn't have a roleblocker so Eden will roleblock someone. I suppose there is a small chance the Driver could be in play, but it's what we can do.

The S&C is more critical as if he is town he can guarantee Dousing another scan. If Dousing dies we can probably be sure S&C is scum.

Anyway, Driver can't interfere with both situations so we will have at least confirmed one of the situations for tomorrow. Best case we have two confirmed scum or one scum and another cop report.

[bozotheclown]

@Bona and @Sweetandcool- Failure to use your claimed powers in the way all other players request is a scum claim. Sweetandcool guarding Dousing ensures that either scum avoid killing Dousing or that SC dies instead of him. Both cases Dousing got another scan, so there is no better way to play this.
Same to Bona, if he is tracker, seeing where Eden goes is the only way we can resolve the 50/50 between them and failing to do this is a scum claim. Same way, Eden failing to RB the player Dousing indicates is a scum claim.

@Dousing, @Damo, @Jamiet @Bozo, @Chaqa - Please send this same message to Bona and Sweetandcool.

@Dousing- Please indicate a player between the non PR claimants for Eden to Roleblock.

I agree.

[sweetandcool]

I am not going to allow myself to be pressured into a certain course of action, the end.