MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Bonatogether]

OK I'm not reading 4 pages of Bona spam

he figured out he needs to bus s&c to win

[Bonatogether]

S&C really might just be a bodyguard...

Stop being so easy to manipulate, this is frustrating.

[Bonatogether]

i think much further gets into territory where scum are in 'we need to win now' mode so incentives change so it's not as worthwhile to read it

also i have hw i need to do lol

[Bonatogether]

tl;dr for you all

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
Chaqa
damo666
Dousing
Jamiet99uk
President Eden
rdrivera2005
sweetandcool

i'm 100% on myself, chaqa, damo, eden, and sweet
i'm confident but not completely sure on bozo, dousing, and rd. my sure guesses imply there's one scum within that group, which i peg as bozo due to a failure to town, interactions that look terrible in hindsight, rd making some dunks that look amazing in hindsight, and dousing being universally agreed on pr

for further explanations you can read the last few pages

in other news:
i leave tomorrow for canada
i will almost definitely miss eod but it doesn't matter because i know who i'm voting (unless the thread decides bozo needs to die for whatever reason, instead of eden). i will be back for the day after. i don't believe i can do much more to convince you all, but i will deposit my result tomorrow morning. i will scan within the group i have identified. i will not die because that will confirm to everyone what i have known for days.

eden delenda est

[Bonatogether]

there is no greater effort i can do to convince you all

[Bonatogether]

sweet was here and then he wasn't

[rdrivera2005]

I think Dousing should indicate the target for Eden roleblock and Bona should track Eden, so any driver shenanigan isn't possible.

I also think S&C should guard Dousing and any failure on doing this means he is scum. Considering he already said he won't I deeply regret not killing him yesterday, this could probably cost the game for us.

[Dousing]

How the hell did we tie??? ffs

K well, I got a bunch of pages I gotta read

[Bonatogether]

i still don't understand the tracking scheme so i don't want to do it

alternative plan:

track sweetandcool, notable bodyguard claimant

if he doesn't move, he's scum
if he does move and whoever he visit dies, he's scum
if he does move and he dies, then whoever he visits is town

[Bonatogether]

i still don't understand the tracking scheme so i don't want to do it

alternative plan:

track sweetandcool, notable bodyguard claimant

if he doesn't move, he's scum
if he does move and whoever he visit dies, he's scum
if he does move and he dies, then whoever he visits is town

if he does move and the kill is someone else, then he's either town or rolecop/joat

[President Eden]

i still don't understand the tracking scheme so i don't want to do it

alternative plan:

track sweetandcool, notable bodyguard claimant

if he doesn't move, he's scum
if he does move and whoever he visit dies, he's scum
if he does move and he dies, then whoever he visits is town

Lol ok, now you won’t even commit to tracking me because you know I’ll prove myself town.

Refusing to track me is a scumclaim

[Bonatogether]

i still don't understand the tracking scheme so i don't want to do it

alternative plan:

track sweetandcool, notable bodyguard claimant

if he doesn't move, he's scum
if he does move and whoever he visit dies, he's scum
if he does move and he dies, then whoever he visits is town

Lol ok, now you won’t even commit to tracking me because you know I’ll prove myself town.

Refusing to track me is a scumclaim

i've not understood your shit this entire time

in any case i don't see why i would take a deal from a scumbo

[Bonatogether]

i don't see why anyone should expect me to accept a deal with moving parts i can't see from someone who everyone can agree is mechanically scum from my point of view

[Bonatogether]

i don't trust someone i know has to lie to me to win

[Chaqa]

i don't trust someone i know has to lie to me to win

You trust me

[Bonatogether]

i don't trust someone i know has to lie to me to win

You trust me

i think you have a capacity for missing things but yes

[President Eden]

How the hell did we tie??? ffs

K well, I got a bunch of pages I gotta read

Bona performed some very impressive theatrics that baited people into panic voting and it happened to allow him and s&c to escape.

What's left to figure out, FMPOV, is whether the final mafia would have been one of the panic movers (unlikely, I think? it would have been clear what Bona and s&c were up to, I think, if you knew who was who) or someone more entrenched.

Personally, I think you, Jamie, and probably Chaqa are town. I don't see Chaqa waffling the way he did in a Bona/s&c/Chaqa world. I don't think he even makes the cop fakeclaim play in the first place. Jamie's adamant refusal to vote me looks pretty great in a Bona + s&c world. I think that was what created the need for last minute theatrics. And you're virtually confirmed vanilla cop.

My gut tells me rdr and bozo genuinely panic moved because they didn't know wtf Bona was doing with all the self-voting and flipping around. So I think the third one is most likely damo - which actually meshes with what I remember of EOD1 pretty decently because Bona and damo both became surprise wagons late in the phase, and s&c was adamantly clamped onto Foxcastle, who was a persistent counterwagon.

I haven't worked out alternative explanations yet though, so I'm not solid on this, but that's what I got so far.

Bona has apparently written 165 posts explaining his side of things, if you have no life like he does and wish to peruse them:


Pictured: the first time scum has been the highest poster by an order of magnitude in any phase

[Bonatogether]

i have not pretended to completely understand the situation at all times

you can go through the thread and read what i saw and see how i explain what i'm thinking

[Bonatogether]

i have not dealt shit at any point in this game

[Bonatogether]

i've been totally up front about what i understand and what i don't and what i'm doing and why for this entire ordeal