MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2501 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:43 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:34 pm
snowy801 wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:29 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sun Apr 09, 2023 8:04 pm
I know I promised I would get more work done here, but I decided to revive my Discord server and got busy setting that up instead

Lol
Stellaris?
Mafchat?
this was also just funny

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2502 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:45 pm

damo666 wrote:
Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:25 am
##unvote

So much info.

I was struck by an inconsistency in Chaqa's claim. He says he thinks scum took no powers but his results make that impossible. This indicates he didn't think it through and Dousing is much more believable.

However, I find it intriguing that sweet is voting Dousing but hasn't actually confirmed or denied Dousing's scan claim that sweet is non vanilla.

If Eden is to be believed the scum team appears to be Chaqa Bona sweet.

If Eden is lying then it is Eden Dousing and one of {Jamie, bozo, rdr}.

Id like to hear from sweet wet vanilla status and ofc we need to hear from Bona re RB.

I guess today has to be Chaqa v Dousing (surely one is lying scum).

I was townreading both but Dousing's claim seems more believable.

##vote Chaqa
the immediate critical thinking in a pure damo vein screams town to me

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2503 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:45 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:40 pm
Back briefly. Amazed at turn of events.

Bozo Bona Sweet?
remains on base with previous reads

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2504 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:46 pm

damo is up to 100% town for me

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2505 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:51 pm

sigh

sweetandcool has over 200 posts

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#2506 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:52 pm

i might make an effort to reread jamie as he hasn't gotten in any arguments but i feel decent about him

i do remember the time he has the only player i towncored and he was scum though

so

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#2507 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:53 pm

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Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:29 pm
Howdy all! So are we just waiting for somebody to die? Is it the day right now? What type of town do we live in? A nice country village, big city, campground, etc? I imagine if we are dealing with some mafia goons then we are probably in the big city.

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2508 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:54 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:00 am
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sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 1:20 am
Okay, I will vote randomly. I decided to vote for the person whose position on the list corresponds to the number of characters in the username of the person who first responds to me. Looks like it is #VOTE dousing
excuse me mr./ms. cool,

i have 14 characters in my name

also, how do we know you chose this rationale randomly
14 characters, 13 players. So I mod by 13 and the result is 1, Dousing.

Of course, I could create any random reason to vote a certain way, but there is no way to verify my true rationale. I just mentioned that method because I had randomly decided on it and was excited that I would be voting for the poster, you. But then I realized that I neglected to count the space in your name, resulting in 14 character :P

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2509 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:55 pm

it occurs to me that someone (eden?) might shriek that this is just the frankenposting but in a different form

i feel like this is different because this time i'm reading a lot of people and explaining how my views are changing as they go along and it's not a dedicated hit piece to start

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2510 Post by Bonatogether » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:57 pm

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:02 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:52 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:29 pm
Howdy all! So are we just waiting for somebody to die? Is it the day right now? What type of town do we live in? A nice country village, big city, campground, etc? I imagine if we are dealing with some mafia goons then we are probably in the big city.
saying mafia goons is an actual scumslip
What's a scumslip? Are you saying it is a faux pas to say "mafia goons"?
is it just me or is scumslip relatively obvious in its meaning

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2511 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:57 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:55 pm
it occurs to me that someone (eden?) might shriek that this is just the frankenposting but in a different form

i feel like this is different because this time i'm reading a lot of people and explaining how my views are changing as they go along and it's not a dedicated hit piece to start
I appreciate it, keep going. Though the thought did cross my mind.

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2512 Post by sweetandcool » Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:59 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:57 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:02 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 3:52 am


saying mafia goons is an actual scumslip
What's a scumslip? Are you saying it is a faux pas to say "mafia goons"?
is it just me or is scumslip relatively obvious in its meaning
I wasn't sure, because people seemed to be using the term loosely. And people seem to continue to do so.

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2513 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:05 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:57 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:55 pm
it occurs to me that someone (eden?) might shriek that this is just the frankenposting but in a different form

i feel like this is different because this time i'm reading a lot of people and explaining how my views are changing as they go along and it's not a dedicated hit piece to start
I appreciate it, keep going. Though the thought did cross my mind.
8-) 8-) 8-)

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2514 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:06 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:59 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Tue Apr 11, 2023 11:57 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 4:02 am


What's a scumslip? Are you saying it is a faux pas to say "mafia goons"?
is it just me or is scumslip relatively obvious in its meaning
I wasn't sure, because people seemed to be using the term loosely. And people seem to continue to do so.
taken into account

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2515 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:51 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:10 am
Hi sweet. Same question.

Also we can see when you're reading the forum at the bottom of the page unless you turn it off, just FYI. No shame in turning it off.
I've played a tiny bit on BGA, but their slang is wildly different from everything I am seeing here.

I assume all of the experienced players like taking a shot in the dark in the first round, which isn't unreasonable.
what is bga and how do they play

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#2516 Post by sweetandcool » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:10 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:51 am
ghug wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:10 am
Hi sweet. Same question.

Also we can see when you're reading the forum at the bottom of the page unless you turn it off, just FYI. No shame in turning it off.
I've played a tiny bit on BGA, but their slang is wildly different from everything I am seeing here.

I assume all of the experienced players like taking a shot in the dark in the first round, which isn't unreasonable.
what is bga and how do they play
Board game arena. The game is Werewolves. I swear they were about half an hour games, but idk could be longer. It was realtime and I played on a laggy phone. The only slang they used that I've also seen here is "sus".

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2517 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:10 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:10 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 7:51 am


I've played a tiny bit on BGA, but their slang is wildly different from everything I am seeing here.

I assume all of the experienced players like taking a shot in the dark in the first round, which isn't unreasonable.
what is bga and how do they play
Board game arena. The game is Werewolves. I swear they were about half an hour games, but idk could be longer. It was realtime and I played on a laggy phone. The only slang they used that I've also seen here is "sus".
how was playstyle like?

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#2518 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:11 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:28 pm
I guess my previous vote didn't count due to syntax error. In the meantime, I've changed my mind and decided to vote for another player, simply because I find their posts hard to understand and it's making my head hurt.

As for the koala situation:

Case 1: not mafia: then mafia hopes we pile up and vote koala. Bad mafia eagerly votes koala, good mafia takes a cautious approach and tries to be less enthusiastic without changing the result away from koala.

Case 2: mafia: koala hopes to survive the first vote, and hopes suspicion is drawn away from them, since case 1 seems more likely.

Conclusion: pay close attention to previous discussion related to koala, maybe there are clues.

##VOTE Bonatogether

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#2519 Post by Bonatogether » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:13 am

sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:48 pm
President Eden wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 9:37 pm
sweetandcool wrote:
Tue Apr 04, 2023 8:28 pm
I guess my previous vote didn't count due to syntax error. In the meantime, I've changed my mind and decided to vote for another player, simply because I find their posts hard to understand and it's making my head hurt.

As for the koala situation:

Case 1: not mafia: then mafia hopes we pile up and vote koala. Bad mafia eagerly votes koala, good mafia takes a cautious approach and tries to be less enthusiastic without changing the result away from koala.

Case 2: mafia: koala hopes to survive the first vote, and hopes suspicion is drawn away from them, since case 1 seems more likely.

Conclusion: pay close attention to previous discussion related to koala, maybe there are clues.

##VOTE Bonatogether
finally, somebody with sense around here

evaluate Foxcastle’s reaction under this lens, please
Slogging through all posts related to koala, I observe the following:

Post #52: Jamiet immediately jumped on voting Koala.
Post #58: Fox shares a story about how in the past they would punish the behavour that Koala is demonstrating. The moral of the story planted the idea of voting Koala.
Post #59: Jamiet points out that Fox's logic doesn't make sense.
Post #81: Fox says it was a story they found interesting and relevant, that's why they mentioned it. Proceeds to question Jamiet's Post #52. Also points out how the play demonstrated in their story and Koala's current play have significant downsides.
Post #121: Dousing votes Koala to save their own skin.
Post #210: ghug chimes in with a vote for Koala, quoting Post #121.
Post #243: Jamiet doubles down on their Koala vote, referencing Koala's repeated self-vote declarations.
Post #245: damo asks Koala to stop this nonsense.
Post #247: Bozo is saying something about the Fox/Jamiet posts, idk what.
Post #etc: I don't think they are any more relevant posts and have stopped analyzing.


Conclusions:
I do not know the normal Jamiet/Koala dynamic, please evaluate whether Post #52 and #243 are suspicious. My gut says no, but I feel like a townie should immediately know that voting Koala D1 is a poor play (save it for D2, please (:)

Fox could have been telling an innocent story. Or we could be dealing with a clever Fox who wants to plant the seed of the idea to pile on Koala. A great play for the Mafia Traitor, since Mafia Goons should pick up on the communication. And after communication (Post #58), Fox can walk back and start playing devils advocate (Post #81), the role Jamiet immediately took in Post #59.


Take the following with a huge grain of salt:

I only referenced one damo post, but several of their posts make them seem super trustworthy. Which is actually a bit suspicious. It's probably nothing, but something to keep in mind. Also, ghug's Post #210 is bizarre and actually reads good mafia play. Wait quite a while and see that public opinion is tipping a bit in Koala direction, only then chime in to help seal the deal.

Lastly, wouldn't it be funny if Chaqa was the Mafia Traitor, and using the posts they didn't like as a form of communication? I only had that thought near the end, but it could be quite clever. Other's can provide analysis of their +1s if they feel like it.
@s&c why did you put in this effort d1 when you had previously regarded it as a crapshoot (basically, summarizing, whatever you want to call it), and why did you not repeat it?

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Re: MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

#2520 Post by sweetandcool » Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:13 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:10 am
sweetandcool wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:10 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Wed Apr 12, 2023 12:08 am


what is bga and how do they play
Board game arena. The game is Werewolves. I swear they were about half an hour games, but idk could be longer. It was realtime and I played on a laggy phone. The only slang they used that I've also seen here is "sus".
how was playstyle like?
Honestly I'm not sure how to answer this and got to go right now.

Mainly they liked voting newbs out D1 and they loved role claiming. I quickly deduced that roleclaiming is a bad idea.

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