MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Bonatogether]

Also for the record: I don't think my vote count was actually that far off aside from forgetting to include Snowy's vote against Bona. They were the only person to raise an eyebrow to my count (aside from Worcej for 100% justified reasons) and I am CERTAIN that there would have been more people making corrections if I made a mistake.

I think there is a chance the discrepancy is because Worcej was counting *current* votes while my count was a few hours old at that point.

I still don’t think my count was all that off since only Snowy noticed an error

I am having trouble following this topic without the bot, but there was this vote count:

I'm caught up.

##CALL GM:

Vote count, please?

Took me 10 minutes to do this. FML.

The only vote count you're getting for the next 24 hours:
Koalaattack (4) Dousing, ghug, Jamiet99uk, Koalaattack
Jamiet99uk (1) President Eden
Dousing (1) snowy801
Bonatogether (1) damo666
ghug (1) Chaqa
sweetandcool (1) Bonatogether

Then there were these votes:

idk

##vote bona

Don't vote yourself hoping to get killed because it's too hard without the bot. If you're town, this is unfair to the rest of us. The bot was working just a few days ago, it's likely it will come back. If you can't commit to playing with the bot, fine, but coast until day 2, and if it's not back by then, ask for a replacement. This thing where you insist you have to be a wagon Day 1 for no good reason isn't helpful.

Fair enough. I like this plan.

New plan – what Foxcastle said. Good luck shitposting y'all! I'll come back to ignore it and make a gut-vote EOD :)

##VOTE Jamiet

I have no case, just OMGUS

And I apologize to worcej and to all the players BTW – as you folks saw, I certainly put in the effort all the past games (albeit the form of said effort was debatable/controversial to some). I was prepared to do it again this game.

But I signed up for this game expecting to use the awesome Peterbot. Without it, this has become unexpectedly hard. Sorry to let y'all down.

##Unvote

You will not escape so easily.

Then you posted this:

Here's the votes so far
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Koalaattack (2) Dousing, ghug,
Jamiet99uk (2) President Eden, Koalaattack
Bonatogether (2) damo666, Snowy
ghug (1) Chaqa
sweetandcool (1) Bonatogether

As far as I can tell, your vote count properly included the vote changes, so it makes me wonder what is going on.

In any case, it does not seem likely that your vote count would be called out by the GM if there was any chance you were deliberately trying to mislead the town, which gets back to snowy's point.

Also, why did you say you forgot to include snowy's vote for Bonatogether?

a lot of it is just totally NAI like this

[Bonatogether]

Conspiracy theory time:

I think people are getting too comfy with Koala. Koala's play seems bizarre, and they really committed to it, voting for themself. I think at its peak there were 4 votes total for Koala. And then damo comes in and tells Koala to knock it off.

What if damo and Koala are mafia? And damo let the trust building exercise last for a while, and then tells his pal, Koala, to back out. Nobody thinks anything of it because Koala's play was ridiculous and instead of arbitrarily backing out, someone (damo) helped them save face and get off scot free.

Now most people seem to have a favourable opinion of Koala, thinking they are most likely Townie. Mission accomplished if my conspiracy theory were true.

I like the theory, Foxcastle and PE also discouraged Koalaattack from self voting, there could be something going on there.

encouraging hokum

this feels vaguely out of character

[Bonatogether]

I dunno if a chaqa vanity wagon is any better tbh

I wanted an odd number of votes on the two wagons because latebreaking tiebreak votes seemed likely.

I don't see how 4-3 is better than 5-3 when there were players not voting for either Foxcastle or damo. KoalaAttack also had 3 votes, so you made it 4-3-3.

vaguely shading ghug

[Bonatogether]

By the way, I've read the setup and I wanted to know if we know whether Mafia took any powers? Somehow I got the impression we knew they took nothing, but now it seems there is no way for us to know until concrete evidence turns up. Is that correct?

Disregard my response as I forgot how the recruit traitor worked

there was a prechat? that changes the game

This was a quick succession of questionable town telling.

noteworthy because both me and eden are in it

[Bonatogether]

I am not sure what you mean.

why don't you post more

I post when I am available.

In what way did you find out that the mafia could choose roles?

[Chaqa]

Feels about time for me to CC Eden

[sweetandcool]

##VOTE Bonatogether

Extremely begrudgingly.

ok what changed

Jamiet encouraged me to vote, and I was getting the impression you preferred if not Eden (which never came close) then yourself. I thought the situation was hopeless, that they would MK me, but if you flipped town then Eden would be next, giving me two nights to prove myself.

[sweetandcool]

Bonatogether
bozotheclown
Chaqa
damo666
Dousing
Jamiet99uk
President Eden
rdrivera2005
sweetandcool

where i am rn

i am going to rereading isos for
jamie
damo
rd
bozo
sweet

i am 100% on
eden
chaqa
dousing

I wouldn't have believed it during D1, but we think alike. I have the same reads, except I'm not as confident in Damo.

[Bonatogether]

Chaqa starting a new wagon on damo in the last hour, then moving his vote as soon as damo became the top wagon, looks like a possible bus. Or, it is possible Chaqa did not want to be responsible for driving a town DK.

Chaqa started the damo wagon instead of voting for Bonatogether or Foxcastle, who each had 3 votes, despite posting this earlier D1:

I want to vote for Bona or Fox. Voting the new player day 1 is too cliche

Also, ghug was scum reading Chaqa.

##VOTE Chaqa

[Bonatogether]

Your assumption that I was invested in Damo's death is misguided.

Alright I've decided to ##Vote damo

Because no one else has voted him and that means he's scum.

Join me on Damo. If I'm wrong the vig can shoot me.

Damo Damo he's our man, if we don't catch him nobody can

why am i a wagon

why is damo a wagon

why is koala not more of a wagon

this pisses me off

Damo is a wagon because I noticed NO ONE had voted for him despite some people sussing him.

I deem him scum.

lot of chaqa discussion and soft pushing

[Bonatogether]

Again, your assumption that I was invested is misguided. I literally picked Damo because I noticed he hasn’t been voted and thought it was odd.

At the end of the day, my only day 1 goal ever is to not die.

You posted this 7 hours, but only 2 posts, before voting for damo:

I want to vote for Bona or Fox. Voting the new player day 1 is too cliche

After that, you did not mention either of them again until there was less than 3 minutes left in D1:

I'll vote Fox to save Bona.

Foxcastle and Bonatogether were tied at 3 votes when you voted for damo, if you preferred Foxcastle over Bonatogether, why didn't you vote for Foxcastle then? Why didn't you vote for one of them 7 hours earlier instead of just saying you wanted to vote for one of them?

he doesn't actually say 'i think you're scum'

[Bonatogether]

I just finished catching up on the thread, and if Dousing, sweetandcool, or KoalaAttack turn out to be mafia, I will be very impressed.

[Bonatogether]

I just finished catching up on the thread, and if Dousing, sweetandcool, or KoalaAttack turn out to be mafia, I will be very impressed.

if bozo is scum, i think that implies sweetandcool is scum

[Bonatogether]

I just finished catching up on the thread, and if Dousing, sweetandcool, or KoalaAttack turn out to be mafia, I will be very impressed.

ClownGPT, please expound upon Koala

KoalaAttack fooled me the game where he was mafia with you, but there were times I suspected him, and looking back I felt it should have been more obvious to me what he was doing. I know from that game he is capable of putting in a lot of effort as mafia, but this game he seems much more like he did in his town games, and its seems to me that he believes what he is saying.

confirms relationship i just said

[Bonatogether]

This was a quick succession of questionable town telling.

Bona’s is obviously fake but he seems town anyway, mine wasn’t really a towntell (but hey, whatever gets you to the right answer). S&C I could believe, though if I’m being honest I TR him independently and am not viewing this in a vacuum

Why would town bona "fake towntell" this

[Bonatogether]

I would not rule him out, I get the feeling he could be subtly pocketing players.

Who's he pocketing?

Also remind me why Chaqa? Is it the "I wasn't dedicated to voting off damo" thing or was there more

I think he could be pocketing me, for one, because the last game we were both town and he tunneled me the whole game and it was hard for me not think he was doing it as mafia. I will have to go back and read his posts to find an example of what I thought could be pocketing.

this doesn't happen

[Bonatogether]

I would not rule him out, I get the feeling he could be subtly pocketing players.

Who's he pocketing?

Also remind me why Chaqa? Is it the "I wasn't dedicated to voting off damo" thing or was there more

Here are a couple of random examples of what I was talking about:

What do you mean by "roleblocked"? Are you claiming power?

No.

On webDip, if there is a role blocker, the roleblokced player is told they were roleblocked, *even if they had no action to block*.

I know this is non-standard for other Mafia sites so your question was totally reasonable.

It's not like Town of Salem because in it you have a LOT more info and the game is a lot more of a puzzle than a game of deception

It's not like warewolf because y'all actually know how to player the damn game.

Also opening my mouth is terrifying on this board unlike the other two

Be not afraid, young Dousing.

You are doing fine so far.

Be your own based self.

ok these are actually super lame examples

[Bonatogether]

I think he could be pocketing me, for one, because the last game we were both town and he tunneled me the whole game and it was hard for me not think he was doing it as mafia. I will have to go back and read his posts to find an example of what I thought could be pocketing.

This is a really weird perspective because I haven’t thought about you much at all this game. I have a mild townread because you tunneling on some stupid shit I said seems like town!Bozo, but otherwise you’re not even in my radar

I don't see the connection between you finding me unrememberable and my perception of Jamie.

[Bonatogether]

I don't see the connection between you finding me unrememberable and my perception of Jamie.

Oh, I thought you were saying I was pocketing you

OK, that makes more sense. Are you?

what a guy
what a question

[Bonatogether]

he has a gap of nearly two days in n2 and first half of d3