President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:24 pmI also admit that I was coasting super hard because I have a failsafe PR claim and let that get to my head, so I begrudgingly appreciate my hand being forced as a sort of reality check

#2041 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:08 pm
President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:24 pmI also admit that I was coasting super hard because I have a failsafe PR claim and let that get to my head, so I begrudgingly appreciate my hand being forced as a sort of reality check
#2042 Post by President Eden » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:09 pm
reading is inefficient dopamine production compared to spewing in thread for +1s
#2043 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:09 pm
this pisses me off so muchChaqa wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:31 pmThe coasting is why I scumread you in the first place lolPresident Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:24 pmI also admit that I was coasting super hard because I have a failsafe PR claim and let that get to my head, so I begrudgingly appreciate my hand being forced as a sort of reality check
#2044 Post by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:09 pm
Reminds me of the kettle calling the pot black.
#2045 Post by President Eden » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:10 pm
ok so you’re now pretending to be past the point where s&c acknowledges Dousing’s scan result yet you still haven’t said anything about s&cBonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:08 pmPresident Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 3:24 pmI also admit that I was coasting super hard because I have a failsafe PR claim and let that get to my head, so I begrudgingly appreciate my hand being forced as a sort of reality check![]()
#2046 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:11 pm
newbs don't think like this (possibly bar aaro)sweetandcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:51 pmFine. It's unfortunate that I am the bodyguard. Since I have no special info.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:34 pmI think it makes sense to mass claim at some point today, but I think sweetandcool should claim first.
My narrative is that I screwed up and forgot to guard N1 (I wouldn't have thought to guard ghug, so oh well). Then since Dousing was so against me, and I was becoming a controversial figure, I thought Mafia might kill someone in an attempt to cast more suspicion on me. So I started to be extra insulting towards Dousing (pretty easy when they still haven't even considered for a moment I could be town) while drumming up the probability of them being town.
I wanted Mafia to kill Dousing, so that I could successfully guard and at least vouch Dousing as town. Then during N2 Bona mentions newbs don't get NK, so I realize my plan is unlikely to succeed.
That's when I realized damo is acting like Vanilla Cop, and that they had scanned me. I figured I would do my best to tout Damo as town and also imply that they were Vanilla Cop. Then I could get my self killed by guarding them. But Mafia surprised me by hitting snowy instead.
Then today we have all of this role claiming. As I just said, I thought no matter how much I was suspected, it would absolutely have to come down to Chaqa vs Dousing. Consequently, I wanted to confuse Mafia and I wanted to see if any of them were foolish enough to hop on a Dousing wagon. Plus, a small part of me was entertaining the idea that more than one of the role claimers were lying.
I would have thought about my play against Dousing a bit more, but I wanted my reaction to look really emotional and convincing. Again, not too hard since I am extremely annoyed that Dousing has wasted the whole game not even considering I could actually have a power, and I'm extremely annoyed I've been outed.
#2047 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:11 pm
consideringsweetandcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:00 pmYa'll can go through my prior posts if you want to see if my narrative fits. Sadly, even it fitting probably isn't enough since a caught Mafia would probably claim a role. And what better role to claim than Bodyguard?
Still, I will attempt to explain one last thing, which is my psychology.
I have been very genuine the entire game. But I've been observing and learning from players, and I learned something very important from President Eden and Snowy.
First, I made an accusation towards President Eden and they never responded. I realized that was clever because while they did nothing to absolve themself, they also didn't give an opportunity for a further case being made against them.
Then, near the end of D2 Snowy makes a massive post. Up until then, I suspected them of Mafia because they hadn't said much. And then when people called them out on it, they started to post a little more, but weren't very convincing. Then they made a massive post and seemed really engaged! I realized people were being reticent for a reason and that one major reason would be because they have a town power role.
That's why I started thinking about power roles near the end of D2 and during N2. I had a hard think and realized I really needed to find a way to predict the next kill, since I could think of only two good uses for bodyguard. Either I needed to protect a confirmed town power, or I needed to be the sacrificial lamb that confirms a town (that is, correctly guess the Mafia kill and die instead).
So that explains most of my psychology this game.
#2048 Post by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:12 pm
I AM new dammit! I've only played a few crappy 30 minute real time games on BGA, which I hated.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:11 pmnewbs don't think like this (possibly bar aaro)sweetandcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:51 pmFine. It's unfortunate that I am the bodyguard. Since I have no special info.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 4:34 pm
I think it makes sense to mass claim at some point today, but I think sweetandcool should claim first.
My narrative is that I screwed up and forgot to guard N1 (I wouldn't have thought to guard ghug, so oh well). Then since Dousing was so against me, and I was becoming a controversial figure, I thought Mafia might kill someone in an attempt to cast more suspicion on me. So I started to be extra insulting towards Dousing (pretty easy when they still haven't even considered for a moment I could be town) while drumming up the probability of them being town.
I wanted Mafia to kill Dousing, so that I could successfully guard and at least vouch Dousing as town. Then during N2 Bona mentions newbs don't get NK, so I realize my plan is unlikely to succeed.
That's when I realized damo is acting like Vanilla Cop, and that they had scanned me. I figured I would do my best to tout Damo as town and also imply that they were Vanilla Cop. Then I could get my self killed by guarding them. But Mafia surprised me by hitting snowy instead.
Then today we have all of this role claiming. As I just said, I thought no matter how much I was suspected, it would absolutely have to come down to Chaqa vs Dousing. Consequently, I wanted to confuse Mafia and I wanted to see if any of them were foolish enough to hop on a Dousing wagon. Plus, a small part of me was entertaining the idea that more than one of the role claimers were lying.
I would have thought about my play against Dousing a bit more, but I wanted my reaction to look really emotional and convincing. Again, not too hard since I am extremely annoyed that Dousing has wasted the whole game not even considering I could actually have a power, and I'm extremely annoyed I've been outed.
#2049 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:13 pm
#2050 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:14 pm
thinkingPresident Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 5:33 pmof course it had to be a Bodyguard claim… by far the easiest fake of the bunch
#2051 Post by President Eden » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:14 pm
I did your mom
#2052 Post by Chaqa » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:14 pm
I believe this. Eden is a play-it-safe basic bithPresident Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:23 pmI didn’t like my odds of hitting scum by EON1 and defaulted to the safe play of rbing somebody who I thought would confirm me laterrdrivera2005 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:17 pmWhy on Earth you targeted a townread for a RB instead of a scumread?President Eden wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:08 pm
yea I immediately called it BS lol
but I townread him anyway so I figured he would be a safe enough target
it helped that he was sussing me too, that way at least he would know I was good even if my claim got doubted eventually
I shot my shot N2 because I figured snowy was mafia and generally suspected enough that he would carry the kill
Assuming Bona plays ball then I’ll be aiming for mafia the rest of the way. But I do think in a semi-open setup like this that it’s correct to confirm yourself at some point, and I frankly wasn’t invested enough to feel confident aiming N1, so I figured that was as good a time as any to get my self-confirm out of the way
#2055 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:17 pm
it's like a shitty horror movie where it keeps swinging the characters back out of the danger and back in with no warning
#2056 Post by President Eden » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:17 pm
#2057 Post by President Eden » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:17 pm
#2058 Post by Bonatogether » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:18 pm
#2059 Post by Jamiet99uk » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:18 pm
OHHHBonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 7:31 pmi wasn't rbed at all this game
#2060 Post by sweetandcool » Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:19 pm
I'm pretty sure I'm doomed. Chaqa, Eden, Dousing, Bona and I. One, but probably more are lying.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:17 pmit's like a shitty horror movie where it keeps swinging the characters back out of the danger and back in with no warning
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