MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Chaqa]

Three town PRs would mean mafia took two upgrades. I think that is *possible* but not likely.

I think them taking three upgrades is super improbable, so if ANYONE ELSE is a PR now is probably the time to think about claiming because then we know one of these is a fake.

Is this a VT claim? You said you were not the cop, but I don't think you said you were a VT.

Ah yeah, I thought it was obvious I was a VT since I fake claimed, but I will affirm that this is the case.

[Chaqa]

Not me second guessing whether Eden is scum now

I’m not fakeclaiming a fucking self-confirming role

Gigachad play is to let your own teammate confirm you (Bona)

hmmmm

[Chaqa]

It’s kinda odd that Bona didn’t just claim they are rb’ed on D2

Not really, this would confirm there is a town RBer to mafia.

But for Bona to know that he would have had to read the setup.

@Eden: thoughts?

[sweetandcool]

Did you consider Dousing could have been the cop for the same reason?

No actually. They seemed to genuinely be defending Koala, even though I thought Koala was being massively suspicious.

So I believed their narrative that they thought Koala was town, was defending them, became suspicious of me because in their eyes I was crusading against two towns in a row.

Whereas damo just jumped on me out of the blue. Which felt like more of a vanilla cop scan on me.

I did not see damo mentioning you until 12:52 left in D2, is that what you are referring to?

Damo:

D1: sweetandcool is town.
N1: sweetandcool is town.
D2: Favours sweetandcool and bona against koala. And then yeah, suddenly claim I scumslip and suddenly seems confident that sweetandcool, bona, or koala is Mafia.
N2: Nothing new in regards to what we are discussing.
D3: Immediately pushes for me.

Huh, now that I'm examining this again, doesn't feel so vanilla cop to me. The only way Vanilla Cop makes sense is if they scanned me, then thought I was bussing Koala. After Koala was revealed to be Town, that would have solidified their belief in me bein Mafia.

Since Dousing is Vanilla Cop, this is all moot sadly.

But now you know why I was thinking Vanilla Cop for damo.

[President Eden]

It’s kinda odd that Bona didn’t just claim they are rb’ed on D2

Not really, this would confirm there is a town RBer to mafia.

But for Bona to know that he would have had to read the setup.

@Eden: thoughts?

He claimed to have read it during N1, you may recall.

I think him sitting on it doesn’t mean much, because he may have done it for several reasons:
• he didn’t want mafia to know there was a town RB (town)
• he is a PR and didn’t want to call attention to himself (town, but also super unlikely—and basically confirms s&c mafia)
• he’s mafia and sat on the info so town wouldn’t know

On that note, interestingly, Jamie was openly soliciting the roleblock target. Which could have just been a routine question that didn’t consider the different dynamic in this game, but could also have been a clever ploy to find out if the mafia needed to worry about an RB…

[Chaqa]

It’s kinda odd that Bona didn’t just claim they are rb’ed on D2

Not really, this would confirm there is a town RBer to mafia.

But for Bona to know that he would have had to read the setup.

@Eden: thoughts?

He claimed to have read it during N1, you may recall.

I think him sitting on it doesn’t mean much, because he may have done it for several reasons:
• he didn’t want mafia to know there was a town RB (town)
• he is a PR and didn’t want to call attention to himself (town, but also super unlikely—and basically confirms s&c mafia)
• he’s mafia and sat on the info so town wouldn’t know

On that note, interestingly, Jamie was openly soliciting the roleblock target. Which could have just been a routine question that didn’t consider the different dynamic in this game, but could also have been a clever ploy to find out if the mafia needed to worry about an RB…

Link to that? That seems worth review.

[President Eden]

i'm going to read the OP

@chaqa follow this, he has a couple of throwaway posts about it

[President Eden]

I also found this post while looking this up, which is fascinating in light of an alleged PR claim.

Can we be productive?

How would we go about learning the power distribution? Do we wait until someone uses a power, a role player gets killed, or what?

And if we're going to start throwing accusations, can we give actual reasoning? Like right now some of you are going to President Eden, so maybe you could weigh in on what I said about them just a bit ago?

[Chaqa]

i'm going to read the OP

@chaqa follow this, he has a couple of throwaway posts about it

Hmm. I could also see Bona doing that as scum, unfortunately, but I think it's interesting he says it's obvious scum would take daychat, because personally I think that would be the last upgrade on my list.

[President Eden]

i'm going to read the OP

@chaqa follow this, he has a couple of throwaway posts about it

Hmm. I could also see Bona doing that as scum, unfortunately, but I think it's interesting he says it's obvious scum would take daychat, because personally I think that would be the last upgrade on my list.

yea I immediately called it BS lol
but I townread him anyway so I figured he would be a safe enough target
it helped that he was sussing me too, that way at least he would know I was good even if my claim got doubted eventually

[Chaqa]

I also found this post while looking this up, which is fascinating in light of an alleged PR claim.

Can we be productive?

How would we go about learning the power distribution? Do we wait until someone uses a power, a role player gets killed, or what?

And if we're going to start throwing accusations, can we give actual reasoning? Like right now some of you are going to President Eden, so maybe you could weigh in on what I said about them just a bit ago?

I don't see much there. What are you seeing?

[sweetandcool]

I also found this post while looking this up, which is fascinating in light of an alleged PR claim.

Can we be productive?

How would we go about learning the power distribution? Do we wait until someone uses a power, a role player gets killed, or what?

And if we're going to start throwing accusations, can we give actual reasoning? Like right now some of you are going to President Eden, so maybe you could weigh in on what I said about them just a bit ago?

Yes, that was my first time actually thinking about powers. I knew I had a role, so I knew it was likely that Mafia took a power (since the random odds of me getting a role is low). I was hoping to spark some discussion about possible Mafia powers.

[rdrivera2005]

@chaqa follow this, he has a couple of throwaway posts about it

Hmm. I could also see Bona doing that as scum, unfortunately, but I think it's interesting he says it's obvious scum would take daychat, because personally I think that would be the last upgrade on my list.

yea I immediately called it BS lol
but I townread him anyway so I figured he would be a safe enough target
it helped that he was sussing me too, that way at least he would know I was good even if my claim got doubted eventually

Why on Earth you targeted a townread for a RB instead of a scumread?

[President Eden]

Hmm. I could also see Bona doing that as scum, unfortunately, but I think it's interesting he says it's obvious scum would take daychat, because personally I think that would be the last upgrade on my list.

yea I immediately called it BS lol
but I townread him anyway so I figured he would be a safe enough target
it helped that he was sussing me too, that way at least he would know I was good even if my claim got doubted eventually

Why on Earth you targeted a townread for a RB instead of a scumread?

I didn’t like my odds of hitting scum by EON1 and defaulted to the safe play of rbing somebody who I thought would confirm me later

I shot my shot N2 because I figured snowy was mafia and generally suspected enough that he would carry the kill

Assuming Bona plays ball then I’ll be aiming for mafia the rest of the way. But I do think in a semi-open setup like this that it’s correct to confirm yourself at some point, and I frankly wasn’t invested enough to feel confident aiming N1, so I figured that was as good a time as any to get my self-confirm out of the way

[Bonatogether]

this is an overstatement. I'm not putting that level of effort into the game because I don't care as much. Sorry, but only sort of.

I like to think I showed that quantity of effort is NAI and that I usually give 100% regardless of alignment. and I think you're mistaking quantity for quality and don't realize it

show me a post of quality

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2
3
and I'll throw in 4 even though it's not as super serious in tone.

you can say I haven't maintained the same (frankly insane) level of effort I normally do (as either alignment, mind!), but you can't say that I've had no quality posts or that I'm not trying to figure this out

ratio

[President Eden]

show me a post of quality

1
2
3
and I'll throw in 4 even though it's not as super serious in tone.

you can say I haven't maintained the same (frankly insane) level of effort I normally do (as either alignment, mind!), but you can't say that I've had no quality posts or that I'm not trying to figure this out

ratio

yea whatever kid just confirm I rb’d you n1 already

[Bonatogether]

Yea it’s just snowy + Chaqa + tbd.

snowy spent the crucial hours of the day directing a ton of attention toward Koala and me and just flat out ignoring the more compelling case put forward by his dearly beloved supercomputer bozo.

I bet snowy is ripping Chaqa a new asshole in the mafia chat. Man pulled out all the stops so that Chaqa could fuck off to play Clank

This is 100% scum Eden

narrator voice: the swedish AI confirms that chaqa is voting, at this moment, with eden

[Bonatogether]

1
2
3
and I'll throw in 4 even though it's not as super serious in tone.

you can say I haven't maintained the same (frankly insane) level of effort I normally do (as either alignment, mind!), but you can't say that I've had no quality posts or that I'm not trying to figure this out

ratio

yea whatever kid just confirm I rb’d you n1 already

i wasn't rbed at all this game

[Bonatogether]

This is basically my pool atm:
Bonatogether
Jamiet99uk
President Eden
rdrivera2005
sweetandcool

where's bozo?

[President Eden]

spicy

##VOTE Bonatogether