MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Bonatogether]

Like, people say different versions of essentially "you are Mafia" or "when you flip Mafia I'll be vindicated" all the time. Including Snowy themselves!

But somehow Snowy picks out the one instance I do it... why? To help fuel their MK of me because they have no other argument to speak of I reckon.

I saw a bunch of people agree or +1 with my questioning of Snowy. How about y'all join me on actually voting Snowy until Snowy provides some real answers?

Or stay on me and flip me – just promise me you'll vote Snowy next!

isn't the post by snowy clearly a reference to mafia the game?

this entire post falls under the same category as I documented of 'obfuscating through misrepresentation' as I understand it, just on a different (and easier) target

Bona, why do you regard Snowy, who is an experienced player, as an "easy target" ?

koala hasn't played with him before, and he was lowposting and being lame

[President Eden]

Speaking of time, I'm streaming a goofy challenge run of Back 4 Blood starting at 11am my time (EOD minus 5h). Unless we call the session early or absolutely steamroll it, I'll probably be busy through EOD. I'll be keeping up on my phone if nothing else.

Aside from the obvious fact that I know 1/3 of it is wrong, Chaqa's called shot of me/rdr/snowy doesn't make sense to me because snowy is the only one who's even seriously talked about rdr being scum. Most of us have rdr in the unresolved pile (to which he customarily belongs lol). Under the circumstances there's no reason why mafia snowy would even talk about rdr. It's also not for nothing that the called shot consists of two people agreeing with the case on him (me and rdr). I can forgive him for being less than fully invested - not like I can cast stones from this glass house - but when he's here his posting is reactive, and his progression on the game opaque.

My TRs on the newbies and Bona remain. Jamie probably town - I know he said he's an active player regardless, but I really don't remember him leading post counts like this. He's usually in the mix of higher posters sure, but d1 really stands out to me still. And the fact that he's disclaiming it as a reason to TR him is pretty townie of him because I'm very sure if he were scum he would just go along with it. He's wrong on me, but I'm aware I haven't been as inspired (or inspiring ) as usual. bozo is probably also town if Chaqa is scum, and maybe just regardless.

I would kill Koala to save myself, but Koala still feels like a crapshoot vote to me, and I much rather Chaqa.

Imagine putting thought into a called shot

That's the whole point... you're vacillating between "oh my god, how could you E V E R suspect me" and "lol here's my throwaway 'suspects' who happen to be the people on my ass at the moment"

You're not going to write walls like me as town, I get that, but even when you're coasting as town you at least believe what you say and want people to take it seriously. Here you're acting like you want us to take you seriously by getting indignant that you're under suspicion, but then your actual reads and votes are self-aware throwaways. Like the indignance at being suspected is just to deflect and hope the pressure goes away, and you don't really care about the reads... which is one of the many ways you would play as scum.

[damo666]

Speaking of time, I'm streaming a goofy challenge run of Back 4 Blood starting at 11am my time (EOD minus 5h). Unless we call the session early or absolutely steamroll it, I'll probably be busy through EOD. I'll be keeping up on my phone if nothing else.

Aside from the obvious fact that I know 1/3 of it is wrong, Chaqa's called shot of me/rdr/snowy doesn't make sense to me because snowy is the only one who's even seriously talked about rdr being scum. Most of us have rdr in the unresolved pile (to which he customarily belongs lol). Under the circumstances there's no reason why mafia snowy would even talk about rdr. It's also not for nothing that the called shot consists of two people agreeing with the case on him (me and rdr). I can forgive him for being less than fully invested - not like I can cast stones from this glass house - but when he's here his posting is reactive, and his progression on the game opaque.

My TRs on the newbies and Bona remain. Jamie probably town - I know he said he's an active player regardless, but I really don't remember him leading post counts like this. He's usually in the mix of higher posters sure, but d1 really stands out to me still. And the fact that he's disclaiming it as a reason to TR him is pretty townie of him because I'm very sure if he were scum he would just go along with it. He's wrong on me, but I'm aware I haven't been as inspired (or inspiring ) as usual. bozo is probably also town if Chaqa is scum, and maybe just regardless.

I would kill Koala to save myself, but Koala still feels like a crapshoot vote to me, and I much rather Chaqa.

The emboldened statements are inconsistent. Care to explain?

[damo666]

Speaking of time, I'm streaming a goofy challenge run of Back 4 Blood starting at 11am my time (EOD minus 5h). Unless we call the session early or absolutely steamroll it, I'll probably be busy through EOD. I'll be keeping up on my phone if nothing else.

Aside from the obvious fact that I know 1/3 of it is wrong, Chaqa's called shot of me/rdr/snowy doesn't make sense to me because snowy is the only one who's even seriously talked about rdr being scum. Most of us have rdr in the unresolved pile (to which he customarily belongs lol). Under the circumstances there's no reason why mafia snowy would even talk about rdr. It's also not for nothing that the called shot consists of two people agreeing with the case on him (me and rdr). I can forgive him for being less than fully invested - not like I can cast stones from this glass house - but when he's here his posting is reactive, and his progression on the game opaque.

My TRs on the newbies and Bona remain. Jamie probably town - I know he said he's an active player regardless, but I really don't remember him leading post counts like this. He's usually in the mix of higher posters sure, but d1 really stands out to me still. And the fact that he's disclaiming it as a reason to TR him is pretty townie of him because I'm very sure if he were scum he would just go along with it. He's wrong on me, but I'm aware I haven't been as inspired (or inspiring ) as usual. bozo is probably also town if Chaqa is scum, and maybe just regardless.

I would kill Koala to save myself, but Koala still feels like a crapshoot vote to me, and I much rather Chaqa.

Imagine putting thought into a called shot

That's the whole point... you're vacillating between "oh my god, how could you E V E R suspect me" and "lol here's my throwaway 'suspects' who happen to be the people on my ass at the moment"

You're not going to write walls like me as town, I get that, but even when you're coasting as town you at least believe what you say and want people to take it seriously. Here you're acting like you want us to take you seriously by getting indignant that you're under suspicion, but then your actual reads and votes are self-aware throwaways. Like the indignance at being suspected is just to deflect and hope the pressure goes away, and you don't really care about the reads... which is one of the many ways you would play as scum.

How you gonna respond to that Chaqa Whaqa?

[President Eden]

Speaking of time, I'm streaming a goofy challenge run of Back 4 Blood starting at 11am my time (EOD minus 5h). Unless we call the session early or absolutely steamroll it, I'll probably be busy through EOD. I'll be keeping up on my phone if nothing else.

Aside from the obvious fact that I know 1/3 of it is wrong, Chaqa's called shot of me/rdr/snowy doesn't make sense to me because snowy is the only one who's even seriously talked about rdr being scum. Most of us have rdr in the unresolved pile (to which he customarily belongs lol). Under the circumstances there's no reason why mafia snowy would even talk about rdr. It's also not for nothing that the called shot consists of two people agreeing with the case on him (me and rdr). I can forgive him for being less than fully invested - not like I can cast stones from this glass house - but when he's here his posting is reactive, and his progression on the game opaque.

My TRs on the newbies and Bona remain. Jamie probably town - I know he said he's an active player regardless, but I really don't remember him leading post counts like this. He's usually in the mix of higher posters sure, but d1 really stands out to me still. And the fact that he's disclaiming it as a reason to TR him is pretty townie of him because I'm very sure if he were scum he would just go along with it. He's wrong on me, but I'm aware I haven't been as inspired (or inspiring ) as usual. bozo is probably also town if Chaqa is scum, and maybe just regardless.

I would kill Koala to save myself, but Koala still feels like a crapshoot vote to me, and I much rather Chaqa.

The emboldened statements are inconsistent. Care to explain?

...are they? I'm just giving thoughts on the current wagons, while also making people aware that I'm not likely to be around/involved much. I'll be keeping an eye on things.

Shouldn't you be happy I would switch to your endvote target lol

[damo666]

Speaking of time, I'm streaming a goofy challenge run of Back 4 Blood starting at 11am my time (EOD minus 5h). Unless we call the session early or absolutely steamroll it, I'll probably be busy through EOD. I'll be keeping up on my phone if nothing else.

Aside from the obvious fact that I know 1/3 of it is wrong, Chaqa's called shot of me/rdr/snowy doesn't make sense to me because snowy is the only one who's even seriously talked about rdr being scum. Most of us have rdr in the unresolved pile (to which he customarily belongs lol). Under the circumstances there's no reason why mafia snowy would even talk about rdr. It's also not for nothing that the called shot consists of two people agreeing with the case on him (me and rdr). I can forgive him for being less than fully invested - not like I can cast stones from this glass house - but when he's here his posting is reactive, and his progression on the game opaque.

My TRs on the newbies and Bona remain. Jamie probably town - I know he said he's an active player regardless, but I really don't remember him leading post counts like this. He's usually in the mix of higher posters sure, but d1 really stands out to me still. And the fact that he's disclaiming it as a reason to TR him is pretty townie of him because I'm very sure if he were scum he would just go along with it. He's wrong on me, but I'm aware I haven't been as inspired (or inspiring ) as usual. bozo is probably also town if Chaqa is scum, and maybe just regardless.

I would kill Koala to save myself, but Koala still feels like a crapshoot vote to me, and I much rather Chaqa.

The emboldened statements are inconsistent. Care to explain?

...are they? I'm just giving thoughts on the current wagons, while also making people aware that I'm not likely to be around/involved much. I'll be keeping an eye on things.

Shouldn't you be happy I would switch to your endvote target lol

Well yeah but how you gonna do it if you're not gonna be here? And imo Chaqa is town but I've a feeling you know that already.

[President Eden]

The emboldened statements are inconsistent. Care to explain?

...are they? I'm just giving thoughts on the current wagons, while also making people aware that I'm not likely to be around/involved much. I'll be keeping an eye on things.

Shouldn't you be happy I would switch to your endvote target lol

Well yeah but how you gonna do it if you're not gonna be here? And imo Chaqa is town but I've a feeling you know that already.

I said I'd be trying my best to keep up on my phone!

True, you have said as much. Set aside Koala for a moment since your opinion on him is pretty obvious. Where would you look next?

[damo666]

...are they? I'm just giving thoughts on the current wagons, while also making people aware that I'm not likely to be around/involved much. I'll be keeping an eye on things.

Shouldn't you be happy I would switch to your endvote target lol

Well yeah but how you gonna do it if you're not gonna be here? And imo Chaqa is town but I've a feeling you know that already.

I said I'd be trying my best to keep up on my phone!

True, you have said as much. Set aside Koala for a moment since your opinion on him is pretty obvious. Where would you look next?

Sweet you Bona in that order

[President Eden]

Well yeah but how you gonna do it if you're not gonna be here? And imo Chaqa is town but I've a feeling you know that already.

I said I'd be trying my best to keep up on my phone!

True, you have said as much. Set aside Koala for a moment since your opinion on him is pretty obvious. Where would you look next?

Sweet you Bona in that order

rude, that's me and two of my best TRs

maybe you were just scum and we blew it d1

[Bonatogether]

will possibly miss eod, if online will vote whoever of eden or koala is closest to death

[snowy801]

Don't worry guys I'll be here for EoD

damo without the scumslip TM what else leads you to see s&c scum?

[Dousing]

Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to kill either Bona or S&C more

So your preferences to flip today are Bona, Sweet, or maybe Koala / Eden.

Therefore you're voting Snowy.

Uh-huh.

Yeah I was just changing my vote after I messed it up.

town of Salem is the closest game I’ve played to this and obviously there’s a meta here that I’m trying to understand but you’re gonna have to expect me to be playing sub-optimally in my very first run through

I just popped on the forum in the ten minutes before I had to head to work, I didn’t really think about who to vote for or how it’d read tbh

[damo666]

Don't worry guys I'll be here for EoD

damo without the scumslip TM what else leads you to see s&c scum?

It's a bit weak but ...

The vote and push on TownFox

The overdoing the "I'm a naive new town" persona [I'll find and post a few examples]

When acknowledging the scumslip he didn't actually acknowledge the right bit and hasn't answered Jamie's question.

[damo666]

By the way, I've read the setup and I wanted to know if we know whether Mafia took any powers? Somehow I got the impression we knew they took nothing, but now it seems there is no way for us to know until concrete evidence turns up. Is that correct?

Mafia playing dumb?

[damo666]

Who does everybody think the most likely Mafia kill will be tonight? And can we draw any conclusions based on choice?

Mafia overdoing the naive town thing?

[damo666]

Phew, glad I didn't die. I meant to post, but when I got my phone open I saw I had missed EoN by 5 minutes.

And this

[damo666]

Why did Bob Barker kill Ghug?

Pretty weird flav.

Also RIP.

I was not roleblocked.

What do you mean by "roleblocked"? Are you claiming power?

And this.

[Jamiet99uk]

Don’t get me wrong, I’d like to kill either Bona or S&C more

So your preferences to flip today are Bona, Sweet, or maybe Koala / Eden.

Therefore you're voting Snowy.

Uh-huh.

Yeah I was just changing my vote after I messed it up.

town of Salem is the closest game I’ve played to this and obviously there’s a meta here that I’m trying to understand but you’re gonna have to expect me to be playing sub-optimally in my very first run through

I just popped on the forum in the ten minutes before I had to head to work, I didn’t really think about who to vote for or how it’d read tbh

"I didn't really think about who to vote for"

Let me advise you:

That is one of the most important things you should be thinking about.

[worcej]

A vote count:
KoalaAttack (3) Bonatogether, damo666*, sweetandcool
Chaqa (3) bozotheclown, President Eden, rdrivera2005
President Eden (3) snowy801, Jamiet99uk, Chaqa
snowy801 (2) KoalaAttack, Dousing

End-votes (1/11): damo666

Currently no one will take part in the next showcase showdown.

~4:45 left of D2

[Chaqa]

Imagine putting thought into a called shot

That's the whole point... you're vacillating between "oh my god, how could you E V E R suspect me" and "lol here's my throwaway 'suspects' who happen to be the people on my ass at the moment"

You're not going to write walls like me as town, I get that, but even when you're coasting as town you at least believe what you say and want people to take it seriously. Here you're acting like you want us to take you seriously by getting indignant that you're under suspicion, but then your actual reads and votes are self-aware throwaways. Like the indignance at being suspected is just to deflect and hope the pressure goes away, and you don't really care about the reads... which is one of the many ways you would play as scum.

How you gonna respond to that Chaqa Whaqa?

He’s making some good points tbh I probably should put some more effort in