MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Jamiet99uk]

To clarify: I was fine with Damo dying, because I do think his not getting votes was suspicious, but I was not *invested* in it beyond the theater required to get votes on him.

If you think that's suspicious, remember I will also sometimes hard push people I townread to make them less likely to die to a nightkill.

##vote Chaqa

Don't you think Chaqa is correct that people are less likely to die at night if he can get them killed during the day instead?

[Jamiet99uk]

To clarify: I was fine with Damo dying, because I do think his not getting votes was suspicious, but I was not *invested* in it beyond the theater required to get votes on him.

If you think that's suspicious, remember I will also sometimes hard push people I townread to make them less likely to die to a nightkill.

##vote Chaqa

This is why President Eden is actually tied with Koala as my number one suspect. When I was suspecting Fox, they swooped in and encouraged that. Then, somewhere along the line, I swear they did the same thing with damo, but I can't find it. And now they are supporting a push for Chaqa.

Kind of seems like they are happily encouraging momentum against different people without actually providing much original thought. Nobody suspects them because people feel happy to be validated by them.

##VOTE President Eden

This is a town motivated post.

+1.

[worcej]

What's this thing about end-votes on peterbot? It says damo made one? What does that mean?

GM Note:
End votes are Hammer votes. The rules discuss hammering in decent detail, but if you have further questions you can ask me either here or via PM to elaborate further.

GM Note to the Note:
Wow, TIL that the google document actually poorly explains this and I've linked back to it as a source when it actually isn't.

Anyways - stealing from another stetup:
You may vote to end the day early by typing ##END. If a majority of players are voting for the same player at any time and have an ##END vote in, the day will be considered hammered. This requires a simple majority (example: 8 players if 15 are alive, 7 players if 12 are alive, etc).

[President Eden]

To clarify: I was fine with Damo dying, because I do think his not getting votes was suspicious, but I was not *invested* in it beyond the theater required to get votes on him.

If you think that's suspicious, remember I will also sometimes hard push people I townread to make them less likely to die to a nightkill.

##vote Chaqa

Don't you think Chaqa is correct that people are less likely to die at night if he can get them killed during the day instead?

wat

People die if they are killed yes, so they are less likely to die later if they are killed now

I am confused as to the relevance of this scintillating insight

[Jamiet99uk]

@Snowy:

Why did you sign up again?

You don't engage with anyone.

You don't answer questions.

You naked vote and never explain your thoughts.

You are a deadweight.

This is (surprisingly) pretty fair, and I would say I signed up because I thought I would have more time to play and I didn't

But I expect I will, with the coming weekend

I wouldn't say I haven't engaged with anyone though that seems excessive

Well, maybe it's a tiny bit excessive, but you've naked voted several times, been asked to explain your voting, and you've ignored those (reasonable) asks.

I'm not voting you currently and if real life is a drag, I sympathise. Hopefully we'll see more of you soon, yeah?

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Chaqa

Don't you think Chaqa is correct that people are less likely to die at night if he can get them killed during the day instead?

wat

People die if they are killed yes, so they are less likely to die later if they are killed now

I am confused as to the relevance of this scintillating insight

It was an attempt to combine humour with shading Chaqa.

[Jamiet99uk]

What's this thing about end-votes on peterbot? It says damo made one? What does that mean?

GM Note:
End votes are Hammer votes. The rules discuss hammering in decent detail, but if you have further questions you can ask me either here or via PM to elaborate further.

GM Note to the Note:
Wow, TIL that the google document actually poorly explains this and I've linked back to it as a source when it actually isn't.

Anyways - stealing from another stetup:
You may not vote to end the day early by typing ##END. If a majority of players are voting for the same player at any time and have an ##END vote in, the day will be considered hammered. This requires a simple majority (example: 8 players if 15 are alive, 7 players if 12 are alive, etc).

Why does that begin "you may not vote to end...."??

[worcej]

GM Note:
End votes are Hammer votes. The rules discuss hammering in decent detail, but if you have further questions you can ask me either here or via PM to elaborate further.

GM Note to the Note:
Wow, TIL that the google document actually poorly explains this and I've linked back to it as a source when it actually isn't.

Anyways - stealing from another stetup:
You may not vote to end the day early by typing ##END. If a majority of players are voting for the same player at any time and have an ##END vote in, the day will be considered hammered. This requires a simple majority (example: 8 players if 15 are alive, 7 players if 12 are alive, etc).

Why does that begin "you may not vote to end...."??

I caught it and edited it - I am poor at reading the actual content I am searching for when I am desperately searching it lol...

[President Eden]

Come to think of it, while he does lie about amogus reads to influence outcomes, I don’t remember him actually doing it in mafia with any regularity

I vaguely recall him claiming to be doing that last game I played, because I remembering making fun of him for it in scum chat

But if he’s offering that as an explanation now then that really doesn’t fit.

[Jamiet99uk]

Don't you think Chaqa is correct that people are less likely to die at night if he can get them killed during the day instead?

wat

People die if they are killed yes, so they are less likely to die later if they are killed now

I am confused as to the relevance of this scintillating insight

It was an attempt to combine humour with shading Chaqa.

To clarify: Chaqa asserted that sometimes he votes for, and pushes, people he townreads, because he thinks this protects them from the NK.

My point was "hur hur, sure Chaqa, if you get your 'townreads' miskilled during the day, you won't have to kill them at night, hur hur".

[Jamiet99uk]

@Chaqa:

For clarity, are you telling us that you had Damo as a townread yesterday, and you therefore decided to create, and push, a wagon on him, for fake reasons that you didn't believe in, because your actual (secret) motive was to protect him from being Nightkilled?

This is what you're saying, yes?

[Jamiet99uk]

To clarify: I was fine with Damo dying, because I do think his not getting votes was suspicious, but I was not *invested* in it beyond the theater required to get votes on him.

If you think that's suspicious, remember I will also sometimes hard push people I townread to make them less likely to die to a nightkill.

Because, frankly, on a second read, this post sounds like:

"Here's an excuse for my actions. If you don't buy that excuse, here's a second, totally different, excuse!"

[Chaqa]

Come to think of it, while he does lie about amogus reads to influence outcomes, I don’t remember him actually doing it in mafia with any regularity

I vaguely recall him claiming to be doing that last game I played, because I remembering making fun of him for it in scum chat

But if he’s offering that as an explanation now then that really doesn’t fit.

I meant it more in the abstract of "I play mafia in weird ways because I have weird ideas"

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa:

For clarity, are you telling us that you had Damo as a townread yesterday, and you therefore decided to create, and push, a wagon on him, for fake reasons that you didn't believe in, because your actual (secret) motive was to protect him from being Nightkilled?

This is what you're saying, yes?

Not exactly, see the post I just made.

This is a case of "Chaqa forgets he's really bad at explaining things and forgets not everyone knows what his internal monologue knows"

[Jamiet99uk]

@Chaqa:

For clarity, are you telling us that you had Damo as a townread yesterday, and you therefore decided to create, and push, a wagon on him, for fake reasons that you didn't believe in, because your actual (secret) motive was to protect him from being Nightkilled?

This is what you're saying, yes?

Not exactly, see the post I just made.

This is a case of "Chaqa forgets he's really bad at explaining things and forgets not everyone knows what his internal monologue knows"

The problem is, Chaqa, you provided two explanations which cannot both be true at the same time.

[snowy801]

@Snowy:

Why did you sign up again?

You don't engage with anyone.

You don't answer questions.

You naked vote and never explain your thoughts.

You are a deadweight.

This is (surprisingly) pretty fair, and I would say I signed up because I thought I would have more time to play and I didn't

But I expect I will, with the coming weekend

I wouldn't say I haven't engaged with anyone though that seems excessive

Well, maybe it's a tiny bit excessive, but you've naked voted several times, been asked to explain your voting, and you've ignored those (reasonable) asks.

I'm not voting you currently and if real life is a drag, I sympathise. Hopefully we'll see more of you soon, yeah?

I often do this in the spur of the moment because it seems like a good idea at the time. Then when you asked me in particular why I think something, I tell myself I'll go back and figure out exactly why I think that, but never get around to it, so I just move forward and shitpost while on the can instead

Thus was the tale of Snowy's Woes this game

[Chaqa]

@Chaqa:

For clarity, are you telling us that you had Damo as a townread yesterday, and you therefore decided to create, and push, a wagon on him, for fake reasons that you didn't believe in, because your actual (secret) motive was to protect him from being Nightkilled?

This is what you're saying, yes?

Not exactly, see the post I just made.

This is a case of "Chaqa forgets he's really bad at explaining things and forgets not everyone knows what his internal monologue knows"

The problem is, Chaqa, you provided two explanations which cannot both be true at the same time.

I don't follow what you mean.

[bozotheclown]

why don't you post more

I post when I am available.

In what way did you find out that the mafia could choose roles?

i like vaguely figured it out from discussion but i didn't fully grasp it until i read the setup n1

Do you typically play D1 without reading the setup?

[snowy801]

i think i'm pretty clearly cooler as i wasn't born in the previous millennium like a boomer

When we flip you as Mafia, if I'm still alive, I'll say "boom" just for you.

Speaking of reasons why I actually believe something, I direct people to review this comment

[Jamiet99uk]

Not exactly, see the post I just made.

This is a case of "Chaqa forgets he's really bad at explaining things and forgets not everyone knows what his internal monologue knows"

The problem is, Chaqa, you provided two explanations which cannot both be true at the same time.

I don't follow what you mean.

You said you voted Damo because you thought it was weird there were no votes on him.

Then you said "if you find that suspicious", and declared that you often vote for your townreads in order to protect them from the NK.

I assume the second statement was also about Damo. Because, if it wasn't, what was it doing in a post where you were explaining how invested you were in the Damo wagon?

But, assuming the second statement was about Damo, then it conflicts with the first explanation you gave.