MAFIA 79: The Price is Right! [GAME THREAD]

[Foxcastle]

Also, can someone please post a link to peterbot? Someone posted it a long time ago, but I forget where.

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/game_status?g=79

[sweetandcool]

Oh, I don't know, making a third vote makes me feel a little wishy-washy. I meant to convey clarity and certainty. I've been very torn on the vote, but seeing today's posts, I've finally felt confident in voting for Fox.

[Foxcastle]

Oh, I don't know, making a third vote makes me feel a little wishy-washy. I meant to convey clarity and certainty. I've been very torn on the vote, but seeing today's posts, I've finally felt confident in voting for Fox.

It's weird that you wouldn't be wishy-washy. It's day 1, we're barely out of the shitpost phase, and there's basically no real information. You shouldn't have any clarity or certainty at this point.

[sweetandcool]

Oh, I don't know, making a third vote makes me feel a little wishy-washy. I meant to convey clarity and certainty. I've been very torn on the vote, but seeing today's posts, I've finally felt confident in voting for Fox.

It's weird that you wouldn't be wishy-washy. It's day 1, we're barely out of the shitpost phase, and there's basically no real information. You shouldn't have any clarity or certainty at this point.

I agree. That's why I would rather avoid changing my mind willy-nilly. Spew out tons of different votes is confusing.

Thanks for posting peterbot! I guess I have the most words/char/ w/post.

[Foxcastle]

Oh, I don't know, making a third vote makes me feel a little wishy-washy. I meant to convey clarity and certainty. I've been very torn on the vote, but seeing today's posts, I've finally felt confident in voting for Fox.

It's weird that you wouldn't be wishy-washy. It's day 1, we're barely out of the shitpost phase, and there's basically no real information. You shouldn't have any clarity or certainty at this point.

I agree. That's why I would rather avoid changing my mind willy-nilly. Spew out tons of different votes is confusing.

People aren't going to just look back at your votes. They're going to look at all the various theories you've thrown out, too. That's the point of the Peterbot.

I just don't get the weird mix of confidence + hedging that I pick up from you, and that's what makes me suspect you.

[ghug]

##VOTE Bona

[sweetandcool]

It's weird that you wouldn't be wishy-washy. It's day 1, we're barely out of the shitpost phase, and there's basically no real information. You shouldn't have any clarity or certainty at this point.

I agree. That's why I would rather avoid changing my mind willy-nilly. Spew out tons of different votes is confusing.

People aren't going to just look back at your votes. They're going to look at all the various theories you've thrown out, too. That's the point of the Peterbot.

I just don't get the weird mix of confidence + hedging that I pick up from you, and that's what makes me suspect you.

I think you are overestimating my confidence. In the first day, I normally don't like to vote, for not only roleplaying purposes but because there generally is no way to make an educated guess.

It's just that for once somebody has behaved in a way that is suspicious enough that a vote for them is at least reasonable, relative to day one uncertainty.

I feel like you tried to communicate as a mafia traitor, and your behavior since then has done nothing to dissuade that opinion.

[Foxcastle]

I agree. That's why I would rather avoid changing my mind willy-nilly. Spew out tons of different votes is confusing.

People aren't going to just look back at your votes. They're going to look at all the various theories you've thrown out, too. That's the point of the Peterbot.

I just don't get the weird mix of confidence + hedging that I pick up from you, and that's what makes me suspect you.

I think you are overestimating my confidence. In the first day, I normally don't like to vote, for not only roleplaying purposes but because there generally is no way to make an educated guess.

It's just that for once somebody has behaved in a way that is suspicious enough that a vote for them is at least reasonable, relative to day one uncertainty.

I feel like you tried to communicate as a mafia traitor, and your behavior since then has done nothing to dissuade that opinion.

Can you clarify how I have communicated as a mafia traitor?

[sweetandcool]

People aren't going to just look back at your votes. They're going to look at all the various theories you've thrown out, too. That's the point of the Peterbot.

I just don't get the weird mix of confidence + hedging that I pick up from you, and that's what makes me suspect you.

I think you are overestimating my confidence. In the first day, I normally don't like to vote, for not only roleplaying purposes but because there generally is no way to make an educated guess.

It's just that for once somebody has behaved in a way that is suspicious enough that a vote for them is at least reasonable, relative to day one uncertainty.

I feel like you tried to communicate as a mafia traitor, and your behavior since then has done nothing to dissuade that opinion.

Can you clarify how I have communicated as a mafia traitor?

Please refer to my treatise on Post #342.

[Foxcastle]

I think you are overestimating my confidence. In the first day, I normally don't like to vote, for not only roleplaying purposes but because there generally is no way to make an educated guess.

It's just that for once somebody has behaved in a way that is suspicious enough that a vote for them is at least reasonable, relative to day one uncertainty.

I feel like you tried to communicate as a mafia traitor, and your behavior since then has done nothing to dissuade that opinion.

Can you clarify how I have communicated as a mafia traitor?

Please refer to my treatise on Post #342.

Yeah, it didn't make much sense.

[sweetandcool]

Can you clarify how I have communicated as a mafia traitor?

Please refer to my treatise on Post #342.

Yeah, it didn't make much sense.

That's unfortunate because I spent a lot of time on that post. ):

[Foxcastle]

Please refer to my treatise on Post #342.

Yeah, it didn't make much sense.

That's unfortunate because I spent a lot of time on that post. ):

Try-harding can be a sign of mafia from new players, as well...

[President Eden]

##Vote Sweet&Cool

I'm hesitant to vote a newcomer (he's not a newbie, he's played before), but there is a LOT of steering coming from him and not a lot of thinking things through or getting information.

I don't get Fox's progression on s&c here, I actually have the opposite. s&c started wanting to no kill which is a classic newbie town trap, then elected on a pseudo-random vote once informed of the trap, then gradually developed a read rooted in in-game reasons which grew in confidence throughout the day. that's exactly how newer townies play when they start grasping things.

if s&c is mafia steering things then they had a remarkable personality shift in a short time, because s&c's start was anything but steering a kill

that doesn't make Fox suspicious per se, people can be wrong, but I'm not moved by Fox's later framing of s&c as scum-indicative "confidence + hedging." kind of feels like Fox needed to latch onto a read and landed on s&c

##vote Foxcastle

perfectly ok with Bona wagon though.
Chaqa wagon remains both dumb and reasonable
sweetandcool wagon is bad

[sweetandcool]

##Vote Sweet&Cool

I'm hesitant to vote a newcomer (he's not a newbie, he's played before), but there is a LOT of steering coming from him and not a lot of thinking things through or getting information.

I don't get Fox's progression on s&c here, I actually have the opposite. s&c started wanting to no kill which is a classic newbie town trap, then elected on a pseudo-random vote once informed of the trap, then gradually developed a read rooted in in-game reasons which grew in confidence throughout the day. that's exactly how newer townies play when they start grasping things.

if s&c is mafia steering things then they had a remarkable personality shift in a short time, because s&c's start was anything but steering a kill

that doesn't make Fox suspicious per se, people can be wrong, but I'm not moved by Fox's later framing of s&c as scum-indicative "confidence + hedging." kind of feels like Fox needed to latch onto a read and landed on s&c

##vote Foxcastle

perfectly ok with Bona wagon though.
Chaqa wagon remains both dumb and reasonable
sweetandcool wagon is bad

`

[President Eden]

!

[sweetandcool]

I really want to delete my last post since it had no content

My son came running while having a bit of a tantrum and posted for me XD

[Foxcastle]

##Vote Sweet&Cool

I'm hesitant to vote a newcomer (he's not a newbie, he's played before), but there is a LOT of steering coming from him and not a lot of thinking things through or getting information.

I don't get Fox's progression on s&c here, I actually have the opposite. s&c started wanting to no kill which is a classic newbie town trap, then elected on a pseudo-random vote once informed of the trap, then gradually developed a read rooted in in-game reasons which grew in confidence throughout the day. that's exactly how newer townies play when they start grasping things.

if s&c is mafia steering things then they had a remarkable personality shift in a short time, because s&c's start was anything but steering a kill

that doesn't make Fox suspicious per se, people can be wrong, but I'm not moved by Fox's later framing of s&c as scum-indicative "confidence + hedging." kind of feels like Fox needed to latch onto a read and landed on s&c

##vote Foxcastle

perfectly ok with Bona wagon though.
Chaqa wagon remains both dumb and reasonable
sweetandcool wagon is bad

Strongly disagree that it's a newbie town trap. When I was newbie scum, I used it, for example. It's an easy way for newbie scum to push (what they think is) a pro-town position without having to risk sticking their neck out on another player.

"Steering" might be too strong. But there's a lot of pointing fingers without a lot of basis for doing so this early in the game.

Also, why do I need a read to latch on to? If I'm scum, I'm can just say the vibe is off or something.

[sweetandcool]

"that doesn't make Fox suspicious per se, people can be wrong, but I'm not moved by Fox's later framing of s&c as scum-indicative "confidence + hedging." kind of feels like Fox needed to latch onto a read and landed on s&c"

Thanks for putting in words exactly how I feel about Fox currently.

[Foxcastle]

"that doesn't make Fox suspicious per se, people can be wrong, but I'm not moved by Fox's later framing of s&c as scum-indicative "confidence + hedging." kind of feels like Fox needed to latch onto a read and landed on s&c"

Thanks for putting in words exactly how I feel about Fox currently.

Again, why would experienced scum do this on D1?

[Foxcastle]

It's way too early in the game for me to start ranting about how the real scum are the player who look towniest.