MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[y2kjbk]

So if scum were smart, I was waiting on if brainbomb was saved, they would have an immediate claim ready to try to beat the real claim/s, since they all knew who the save was. And only maximum 2 non-brainbomb *townies* would know immediately who the save was. I figured revealing myself immediately was a small sacrifice in the context of saving brainbomb and preempting scum trying to do that.

2 non-brainbomb *townies*

[Jamiet99uk]

Vote Count 2.0

Ghug (2) - Brainbomb, Durga
Xorxes (1) - Flash2015
Yavuzovic (1) - Tom Bombadil
Rdrivera2005 (1) - Ghug

Currently GHUG is set to be lynched.

There is LOADS of time left in D2.

[brainbomb]

I was roleblocked? Part of me doesn't want to claim this because it feels like I'm being trolled. But it happened.

They knew you did not have the electroshield, so no risk there, and roleblocking bb was pointless as well. So I guess yes, it was a cheap troll if you are town.

Who would troll me >:(

Ghug
ND
Vecna
Me
RHK
Damo

[flash2015]

Flash - xorx was pretty instrumental in the Squigs lynch. Why do you think he is scum?

Was he? Something still feels off. I will perhaps move it later as I go back and read some more.

[worcej]

Y2k writes- yea cannon holder should shoot squiggs.
Durga writes "Now were talking"

This implies durga agrees with y2k statement.

Then durga never again considers shooting squiggs
Never even posts a single read on squiggs
At EOD as squiggs is at 6 she writes "this sucks"

Then squiggs busses her

Sounds like I am sheeping, but I've been not 100% confident in Durga being town since the shot was fired and how it all went down.

Quick summary: Durga floats a soft claim early that she has a gun on N0, doesn't get hit by mafia (which was weird). Then on D1, waited until the other cannon fired before she did, which was flash. Why would you wait when you were given a guilty from BB? If he lied, we has lynch and also another shot.

Then we have the target choice, which was 'willy-nilly' and was due to only one post from Chaqa... it just seemed like 'wtf?' when we all had better targets. Why not a wagon? Why someone completely random? It just seemed fake as shit.

Then we have Squig's read of Durga:

Durga - Claims cannon and pledges to shoot it. Retracts, no cannon shot, then reclaims. Whether scum or town, was probably waiting for a better shot. The playstyle seems pretty genuine though, hard to see scum be this ballsy. Slight town pending what happens with the cannon.

I read this again, now knowing he's scum, and think this was a way to try to enforce fake town-cred that I think is entirely possible with the cannon.

I started one wagon off and was right, so how about I try again. Durga, I know you wont defend this time since you've said it, and you came on really strong under pressure last time and you're now calling it a conspiracy. I think you're trying to play it up as a wasted vote, but I want confirmation of your actual role, considering we have 3 town clears now. ##vote Durga

[xorxes]

Unfortunately all the new clears are coming from the obvtown pool.

town: bb
town unless major conspiranoid theories in place: damo, y2k
likely town: flash, RHK, worcej
townish-could-be-scum: Tom, Durga, Vecna, ghug
scumpool: rd, ND, yavu

##VOTE ND

[y2kjbk]

I definitely have my eye raised at Durga. She may be playing the ole strategy of quickly, openly, and fervently denying doing exactly what she's doing over and over again as making no sense and stupid and she's insulted we would ever think she would be scum and openly claim/waste her cannon like that. That def could be a reasonable town-cred seeking strategy. I hope she participate today. I don't necessarily think she should be the lynch today.

[flash2015]

Did Vecna say when he would be able to participate a bit more...or is he going to be really quiet like this all game?

[brainbomb]

I definitely have my eye raised at Durga. She may be playing the ole strategy of quickly, openly, and fervently denying doing exactly what she's doing over and over again as making no sense and stupid and she's insulted we would ever think she would be scum and openly claim/waste her cannon like that. That def could be a reasonable town-cred seeking strategy. I hope she participate today. I don't necessarily think she should be the lynch today.

Occams Razor

[flash2015]

I definitely have my eye raised at Durga. She may be playing the ole strategy of quickly, openly, and fervently denying doing exactly what she's doing over and over again as making no sense and stupid and she's insulted we would ever think she would be scum and openly claim/waste her cannon like that. That def could be a reasonable town-cred seeking strategy. I hope she participate today. I don't necessarily think she should be the lynch today.

Who is your lynch choice today then?

[worcej]

I definitely have my eye raised at Durga. She may be playing the ole strategy of quickly, openly, and fervently denying doing exactly what she's doing over and over again as making no sense and stupid and she's insulted we would ever think she would be scum and openly claim/waste her cannon like that. That def could be a reasonable town-cred seeking strategy. I hope she participate today. I don't necessarily think she should be the lynch today.

I need more for why ghug/ND should be first over her. I think, knowing her shot was used, that not randomly gibbing a town player who has an item - such as the 2nd Nurse Kit (if still live, assuming yes until someone claims they also went with y2k) - is a wiser move to confirm suspicions.

That being said, I nominate her for the 3rd shot if it was repaired. Let's confirm this theory one way or the other.

[brainbomb]

Actually maybe it is ghug - ND. Normally ghug laumches at ND about being pro slavery

[flash2015]

I definitely have my eye raised at Durga. She may be playing the ole strategy of quickly, openly, and fervently denying doing exactly what she's doing over and over again as making no sense and stupid and she's insulted we would ever think she would be scum and openly claim/waste her cannon like that. That def could be a reasonable town-cred seeking strategy. I hope she participate today. I don't necessarily think she should be the lynch today.

Occams Razor

Or Hanlon's Razor...

[DemonRHK]

I really think ND should be the lynch. Yavu maybe...but it's not optimal.

[worcej]

I really think ND should be the lynch. Yavu maybe...but it's not optimal.

Why?

[DemonRHK]

I really think ND should be the lynch. Yavu maybe...but it's not optimal.

Why?

Why to which? ND has done nothing of value and I've pointed out before I like him for lurkscum. The same case can be made for Yavu, but he's not had the time in game that ND has (an extra 72 hours)

[brainbomb]

Rhk

List for me in detail what ghug has done

[y2kjbk]

Theory: scum have thief that stole bozo's item and ghug is scum.

[DemonRHK]

Rhk

List for me in detail what ghug has done

He called me a shitter ;_;

But he hasn't really done a lot either, but he's put more words to page. I'd list him as a 2nd tier lynch with rd.

[xorxes]

Theory: scum have thief that stole bozo's item and ghug is scum.

Yes, that's a possibility to keep in mind. Vecna already pointed it out, and Squigs also suggested it, although that's very WIFOM.