M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[Jamiet99uk]

##Vote bozotheclown
##Vote Hamilton Brian
##Vote Jamiet99uk
##Vote KoalaAttack
##Vote rdrivera2005
##Vote worcej

I think you're all scum

No you don't.

[Jamiet99uk]

Interesting that Worcej would +1 a post voting for him.

[rdrivera2005]

I would be interested in Rdr's read on why damo was the nightkill.

I think Damo was killed because Mafia thought he was PR.

Another possible reason is you being Mafia.

[Jamiet99uk]

I would be interested in Rdr's read on why damo was the nightkill.

I think Damo was killed because Mafia thought he was PR.

Another possible reason is you being Mafia.

Why do you think scum!Fluminator would target Damo?

[Jamiet99uk]

I was looking at the time leading up to EOD, not the last few minutes.

Given that this caused you to make a blatantly untrue statement, why were you looking at such a selective fragment of EoD instead of the whole thing??

Sorry Bozo but this doesn't make you look good.

My statement was inaccurate, because I should not have said "final vote", but I was looking at the voting regarding how Bonatogether and myself became the top wagons. Again, you are directing attention away from the point I was making.

I am deliberately drawing attention to the fact that twice, in this game, you have made false statements that someone paying attention to the thread would be very unlikely to make.

This makes it seem to me like you are cherry-picking isolated details to try to fit a false narrative, rather than sincerely reviewing events in their full context.

To make matters worse, in this second case, when I drew attention to the issue, you attempted to brush me off and did not properly address it until I pressured you.

##Vote Bozo.

[rdrivera2005]

I would be interested in Rdr's read on why damo was the nightkill.

I think Damo was killed because Mafia thought he was PR.

Another possible reason is you being Mafia.

Why do you think scum!Fluminator would target Damo?

Because he can't target himself.

[Hamilton Brian]

Obviously I much prefer to flip rdr because I know I'm Town – and becuase I think there was a potential slip from rdr last night.

Yeah, don't self-vote.

Can you clarify this statement? Are you suggesting there was a possible slip, so leaving something for interpretation, or that there was an actual slip?

[Hamilton Brian]

Worcej and bozo bussing here with these votes?

[Hamilton Brian]

And 2 miskills remaining, yeah? Assuming there's only two mafia remaining.

[KoalaAttack]

Obviously I much prefer to flip rdr because I know I'm Town – and becuase I think there was a potential slip from rdr last night.

Yeah, don't self-vote.

Can you clarify this statement? Are you suggesting there was a possible slip, so leaving something for interpretation, or that there was an actual slip?

Sure thing, I'm referring to this:

Well, I missed EOD and have some pages to read. Seems I will have some time as I am the number 1 suspect right now and Mafia won't kill me anyway.

Why do you think you are the number 1 suspect?

This is a good question – a lot focus on rdr is recent. How does one know this if they haven't read between EOD and now? Other than being told "people are suspecting you" in Mafia Chat?

Final Vote Count on D2:

Bonatogether (4) KoalaAttack rdrivera2005 damo666 Hamilton Brian
Hamilton Brian (3) Bonatogether Jamiet99uk worcej
bozotheclown (1) Fluminator
worcej (1) bozotheclown

The grand total of rdrivera votes is 0.

Player Submitted Thoughts to the ghost of ghug – If I went from 0 votes on me EOD to stating I'm the #1 suspect literally in the same post where I just said I haven't caught up on the thread since EOD, would this qualify as a proper "slip"?

Which rdrivera addressed as this:

Because I read the last pages before posting and people either suspect me or just put me into the POE. And I don't have much to defend myself other then say that as Mafia I look a lot better then this.

Which... I guess, but if rdrivera read enough to figure out they were overall #1 suspect, which pages are they missing exactly? Feels like a post-factum justification after being called out on this potential slip.

I don't know where on the spectrum of possible slip to actual slip I'd qualify this. Input welcome!

[KoalaAttack]

I think Damo was killed because Mafia thought he was PR.

Another possible reason is you being Mafia.

Why do you think scum!Fluminator would target Damo?

Because he can't target himself.

I also don't like this, feels like a snarky non-response.

It's pretty obvious the question was why it was Damo specifically and not some other non-Flum here.

I don't mind the snark, but the non-response of it is Suspicious.

[Hamilton Brian]

Why do you think scum!Fluminator would target Damo?

Because he can't target himself.

I also don't like this, feels like a snarky non-response.

It's pretty obvious the question was why it was Damo specifically and not some other non-Flum here.

I don't mind the snark, but the non-response of it is Suspicious.

I do think this is Rivera at times. IMO not too indicative, but I’m flailing. You think it’s valid keep going on it.

[KoalaAttack]

Because he can't target himself.

I also don't like this, feels like a snarky non-response.

It's pretty obvious the question was why it was Damo specifically and not some other non-Flum here.

I don't mind the snark, but the non-response of it is Suspicious.

I do think this is Rivera at times. IMO not too indicative, but I’m flailing. You think it’s valid keep going on it.

Appreciate the input re rdr meta, will take into account.


I really don't mind emotions and personality quirks, frustration, snark, anger, trolling, whatever. I mean – I'll be the first to admit that I have been intentionally annoying as hell this game – but at least when folks ask me a direct question I always try to give 100% to answer it to the best of my ability.

But it's the second these emotions or personality quirks are used to dodge a direct legitimate question that my Spidey Sense flares up with "Suspicious". Because talk about "unhelpful to the Town" – dodging questions is the true pinnacle of Unhelpful.

[Jamiet99uk]

I think Damo was killed because Mafia thought he was PR.

Another possible reason is you being Mafia.

Why do you think scum!Fluminator would target Damo?

Because he can't target himself.

Bad reply.

[worcej]

Interesting that Worcej would +1 a post voting for him.

I don’t think that is a serious vote, considering he did it once before.

[KoalaAttack]

In other news, here my updated Suspect list:

(1) rdrivera – see my last few posts
(2) Bozo – on one hand, Jamiet vs Bozo feels eerily like Koala vs ghug / Koala vs Bona or even say TFB vs Damo last game ... but on the other, a few uncharacteristic mechanical omissions or mistakes in replying to things

BUT if either of rdrivera or Bozo were to flip and flip Town, I would really want to revisit the worcej / HB / Flum trio of buddying to AnnoyingKoala.

Jamiet has fallen off the list due to asking lots of good / tough questions lately. Maybe it's very good bussing though, but I can't tell since it's my first game with Jamiet as a player beyond half-of-D1... So I defer to the Town, and more folks seem to think Jamiet is Town than Mafia slots remaining... shrug.

[KoalaAttack]

OK this is really bad:

Posting statistics (Day 3)
Posts Words Chars W/Post Player Last (Now)
1 10 831 4345 83.10 KoalaAttack 00:08
2 8 119 576 14.88 worcej 00:08
3 6 161 862 26.83 Hamilton Brian 00:33
4 6 155 891 25.83 Jamiet99uk 00:22
5 6 129 653 21.50 Fluminator 04:22
6 2 377 1896 188.50 Chaqa 05:56
7 2 26 146 13.00 rdrivera2005 02:35
8 1 12 67 12.00 dargorygel 05:23
9 1 2 13 2.00 bozotheclown 05:35
42 1812 9449 43.14 Total Counts

I'm supposed to be apprenticing lfischl here. Epic Fail. New Day Resolution: no more replies until tomorrow. /me minimizes tab

[rdrivera2005]

Why do you think scum!Fluminator would target Damo?

Because he can't target himself.

I also don't like this, feels like a snarky non-response.

It's pretty obvious the question was why it was Damo specifically and not some other non-Flum here.

I don't mind the snark, but the non-response of it is Suspicious.

Koala, I will answer to you because you probably really didn't get it. Flum was the obvious night kill, everybody plus 1 have already told this and I believe Jamiet knew it and was asking just for the sake of asking.

If Flum is scum he needs to find ways to NK other people while dodging the question of why not him.

Anyway, I don't think Flum is scum and the more logic explanation to Damo's kill is PR hunting.

I am probably a bit salty I am playing a shitty game and will probably be miskilled.

[worcej]

And 2 miskills remaining, yeah? Assuming there's only two mafia remaining.

If 2 scum, we’re at 5-2 now so only one miskill.

[worcej]

OK this is really bad:

Posting statistics (Day 3)
Posts Words Chars W/Post Player Last (Now)
1 10 831 4345 83.10 KoalaAttack 00:08
2 8 119 576 14.88 worcej 00:08
3 6 161 862 26.83 Hamilton Brian 00:33
4 6 155 891 25.83 Jamiet99uk 00:22
5 6 129 653 21.50 Fluminator 04:22
6 2 377 1896 188.50 Chaqa 05:56
7 2 26 146 13.00 rdrivera2005 02:35
8 1 12 67 12.00 dargorygel 05:23
9 1 2 13 2.00 bozotheclown 05:35
42 1812 9449 43.14 Total Counts

I'm supposed to be apprenticing lfischl here. Epic Fail. New Day Resolution: no more replies until tomorrow. /me minimizes tab

It’s still early and is a sunday night