MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[xorxes]

My map of the remaining players at this point:

Town: bb
Probably town: flash, worcej, damo, RHK, y2k
Probably town but could be faking it: Tom, Durga, Vecna, ghug
Scum pool: rdrivera, ND, yavuz(snowy).

Since rdrivera did us the favor of bussing Squigs I'm willing to wait for him to bus the other one before we lynch. ND and snowy gave us zero to judge them by so the lynch should be between those two, whoever speaks the least, probably ND.

[y2kjbk]

We’re too far into the game to lynch anyone for the sole reason of lurking up to this point. If they continue to lurk, then a lynch could be justified.

[y2kjbk]

Which I guess is more or less what you’re saying

[xorxes]

Is there any way to reliably decide which doc should try to save brain if without knowing their identities?

@xorxes we've gotta be able to get the odds of !(both save) up to like 80 without totally destroying the odds of one saving, right?

We don't even know for sure if any nurse kits are still in play, since we don't know what items bozo and Chaqa had. We only know they didn't have armors.

[xorxes]

Also, if one or both nurses tried to save Sticky, and Sticky is with Mafia, both kits could have been lost.

I think if someone lost a nurse kit they should probably tell us soonish though, but not before EON.

[rdrivera2005]

My map of the remaining players at this point:

Town: bb
Probably town: flash, worcej, damo, RHK, y2k
Probably town but could be faking it: Tom, Durga, Vecna, ghug
Scum pool: rdrivera, ND, yavuz(snowy).

Since rdrivera did us the favor of bussing Squigs I'm willing to wait for him to bus the other one before we lynch. ND and snowy gave us zero to judge them by so the lynch should be between those two, whoever speaks the least, probably ND.

Sure, I was bussing Squigs. Let me buss you or Ghug before lynching me then. In fact, I would gladly be the next lynch if I can be sure one of you are the next one. Putting three lower posters as your scumpool isn't town Xorxes.

[xorxes]

We don't even know for sure if any nurse kits are still in play, since we don't know what items bozo and Chaqa had. We only know they didn't have armors.

And we know Chaqa wasn't sticky.

[xorxes]

Sure, I was bussing Squigs. Let me buss you or Ghug before lynching me then. In fact, I would gladly be the next lynch if I can be sure one of you are the next one. Putting three lower posters as your scumpool isn't town Xorxes.

Everyone else has given me town vibes at some point, why couldn't the remaining scum be low posters?

Do you have any townreads?

Do you really still suspect me, or is it pure OMGUS?

[DemonRHK]

We don't even know for sure if any nurse kits are still in play, since we don't know what items bozo and Chaqa had. We only know they didn't have armors.

And we know Chaqa wasn't sticky.

How do you know that exactly? Sticky only applies at night.

[xorxes]

We don't even know for sure if any nurse kits are still in play, since we don't know what items bozo and Chaqa had. We only know they didn't have armors.

And we know Chaqa wasn't sticky.

Scratch that, he could have been sticky. The cannon apparently doesn't get stuck during the day for some reason.

[y2kjbk]

I can understand how it would be tricky to properly adjudicate stickiness during the day.

[xorxes]

We don't even know for sure if any nurse kits are still in play, since we don't know what items bozo and Chaqa had. We only know they didn't have armors.

And we know Chaqa wasn't sticky.

How do you know that exactly? Sticky only applies at night.

X-post

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

Peterbot is now reset and should work normally.

For the benefit of the bot:

YAVUZOVIC has replaced SNOWY801

[Jamiet99uk]

Come on...

Yavuzovic is replacing Snowy
Yavuzovic is replacing Snowy801

[rdrivera2005]

Sure, I was bussing Squigs. Let me buss you or Ghug before lynching me then. In fact, I would gladly be the next lynch if I can be sure one of you are the next one. Putting three lower posters as your scumpool isn't town Xorxes.

Everyone else has given me town vibes at some point, why couldn't the remaining scum be low posters?

Do you have any townreads?

Do you really still suspect me, or is it pure OMGUS?

It's not OMGUS (or at least not only OMGUS). I can't really believe you list me, ND and Snowy as your scum list. Also, your reaction to my push on you and Squigs was to scumread me and vote Squigs, which seems off. I also dislike the way you was focusing mostly on mechanics and it's how I remember you when we were scum together.

I have pretty solid townreads on Flash, Vecna and Durga (Brain is clear town).
I have townreads also on Damo, Tom and y2k.
Scumlean on you and Ghug.
Null on: ND, Yav, Demon and Worcej

[xorxes]

It's not OMGUS (or at least not only OMGUS). I can't really believe you list me, ND and Snowy as your scum list.

Why not? If everyone else has given me at least some town vibes, and you three haven't, why is it so hard to believe that you three would be my scumpool?

Also, your reaction to my push on you and Squigs was to scumread me and vote Squigs, which seems off.

What gave you the idea that I voted for Squigs in reaction to your "push"? (You never really pushed either of us, you just expressed some mild suspicion of us.)

I voted for Squigs after seeing his reads list that was full of crap.

I also dislike the way you was focusing mostly on mechanics and it's how I remember you when we were scum together.

Yes, that's becoming something of a trope by now. I got more out of my cannon plan discussion than out of the Path of Exile or the Falcons vs Eagles discussions on N0 though. What else was there to discuss N0 if not mechanics?

But anyway, have your views evolved after my push for Squigs? I doubt Squigs would have been lynched if I hadn't pushed him, and I really did push, unlike you who merely voted for him. Or do you maintain that I'm still only focused on mechanics?

I have pretty solid townreads on Flash, Vecna and Durga (Brain is clear town).

What has Vecna done that makes you think he's town?

I have townreads also on Damo, Tom and y2k.

Me too.

Scumlean on you and Ghug.

I can be convinced about ghug.

Null on: ND, Yav, Demon and Worcej

Demon and especially worcej are pretty obvtown, but OK.

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE

4.5 hours remain in N1.

Remember to PM both GMs if you wish to use an item tonight.

[rdrivera2005]

It's not OMGUS (or at least not only OMGUS). I can't really believe you list me, ND and Snowy as your scum list.

Why not? If everyone else has given me at least some town vibes, and you three haven't, why is it so hard to believe that you three would be my scumpool?

Also, your reaction to my push on you and Squigs was to scumread me and vote Squigs, which seems off.

What gave you the idea that I voted for Squigs in reaction to your "push"? (You never really pushed either of us, you just expressed some mild suspicion of us.)

I voted for Squigs after seeing his reads list that was full of crap.

I also dislike the way you was focusing mostly on mechanics and it's how I remember you when we were scum together.

Yes, that's becoming something of a trope by now. I got more out of my cannon plan discussion than out of the Path of Exile or the Falcons vs Eagles discussions on N0 though. What else was there to discuss N0 if not mechanics?

But anyway, have your views evolved after my push for Squigs? I doubt Squigs would have been lynched if I hadn't pushed him, and I really did push, unlike you who merely voted for him. Or do you maintain that I'm still only focused on mechanics?

I have pretty solid townreads on Flash, Vecna and Durga (Brain is clear town).

What has Vecna done that makes you think he's town?

I have townreads also on Damo, Tom and y2k.

Me too.

Scumlean on you and Ghug.

I can be convinced about ghug.

Null on: ND, Yav, Demon and Worcej

Demon and especially worcej are pretty obvtown, but OK.

Why do you think Demon and Worcej are obvtown?

I don't see scum Vecna sheeping Brain the way he did. Also, I liked his vote on Ghug. The only scumpoint to him was his shenanigans with Jamiet, can see scum Vecna doing that to change focus.

Also, you put me in the lurkers pool, but I have provided a lot more content that players that posted a lot more.

[xorxes]

Why do you think Demon and Worcej are obvtown?

Look at worcej's interaction with Squigs. And he was the one that started Squigs' wagon.

Demon is more of a gut feeling. His reads have been all over the place in a way I don't really see scum doing.

I don't see scum Vecna sheeping Brain the way he did. Also, I liked his vote on Ghug. The only scumpoint to him was his shenanigans with Jamiet, can see scum Vecna doing that to change focus.

OK. That's not solid for me, but I lean town on him too for now.

Also, you put me in the lurkers pool, but I have provided a lot more content that players that posted a lot more.

When did I put you in the lurkers pool? You put yourself in the lurkers pool when you said I was targetting the lower posters.

You didn't answer if your read of me had changed after seeing Squigs flip scum. You really think I hardcore bussed him?

[rdrivera2005]

Why do you think Demon and Worcej are obvtown?

Look at worcej's interaction with Squigs. And he was the one that started Squigs' wagon.

Demon is more of a gut feeling. His reads have been all over the place in a way I don't really see scum doing.

I don't see scum Vecna sheeping Brain the way he did. Also, I liked his vote on Ghug. The only scumpoint to him was his shenanigans with Jamiet, can see scum Vecna doing that to change focus.

OK. That's not solid for me, but I lean town on him too for now.

Also, you put me in the lurkers pool, but I have provided a lot more content that players that posted a lot more.

When did I put you in the lurkers pool? You put yourself in the lurkers pool when you said I was targetting the lower posters.

You didn't answer if your read of me had changed after seeing Squigs flip scum. You really think I hardcore bussed him?

I think you might have bussed him (you can't move back after I called you, and the same is valid to me, and you know it as you are still scumreading me, so I really don't get this question).
I can't say I don't have doubts. I could be wrong about you or Ghug, and even about my townreads, at this point we have really little info and that's why I feel weird you just townread everybody that is actively playing but me.