M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[Fluminator]

I like you koala, but you're going to need to get used to people voting you and going against you. I don't know your previous experience but the ringer you're going through right now is not bad at all compared to what I see some players go through. Getting miskilled is miserable but it will happen one day if it's not this game and it's just a part of the process.

Don't take anything personally. If you feel hurt by Damo he's an older guy who sometimes gets upset at things but it's not personal. A long time ago I posted the bee movie script in a game and he was so angry at me lmao.

[Fluminator]

Does anyone have meta on worcej?

He apparently forgot TFB died and is that normal behavior from him?

[Fluminator]

Koala stronger here, bona less so.

Bona, there's this...I don't know what the fuck it is, but shit does it just not rub me bloodily-chaffed raw. I think we've danced around it in previous games. Sometimes I read you right, sometimes I read you wrong. Jamie has his Bozo. I think HB has his Bona. This time, I think you are grossly mafia.

Worcej vs Bona is going to be good EOD2.

Bozo has two votes right now. What's your current thoughts on him?

[bozotheclown]

yes
i once got him with it before

Which game?

m70

I reviewed that game and I did not see any place where you used the same justification for suspecting I was mafia. It seems like you just picked a game where you correctly suspected I was mafia even though it does not support this claim:

joking bozo is scum bozo

##vote bozo

Do you have meta backing this up? What's your experience in games to make you say this?

yes
i once got him with it before

[bozotheclown]

You all are so scummy. I'll look into worcej soon.

##vote bozo

I do actually like Jamiet's point that Bozo knows that we were all joking there (he was joking with us) so it's a bit weird he's saying Jamiet was serious with his flyingboat vote now.

I was looking at the bot when I posted this:

With 3 wagons tied with 3 votes, why did you think the best option was to start a new wagon in the last hour of D1?

I did not like either of those wagons.
I scumread you.
I felt there was a possibility people would move to you (about which I was correct, your wagon went up to 3 quite quickly).

There were 3 wagons with 3 votes each.

What did you not like about the KoalaAttack and Kakarroto wagons? Why did you no longer like the TFB wagon, which you left to vote for me?

At the time I was not thinking about how Jamiet originally voted for TFB.

However, that does not change the basis for my question, because TFB was an available wagon.

[bozotheclown]

Does anyone have meta on worcej?

He apparently forgot TFB died and is that normal behavior from him?

I don't think that would be normal for anyone who regularly plays here.

[bozotheclown]

Here's where I am at right now. I've kind of been sitting on this for a bit. I do like the bona wagon (especially if it gets going), but I also think we've got someone else to contend with.

I don't think I'd like a bozo wagon, nor would I like a jamie wagon. I don't like your "I have inside information" play, Flum, but I don't think it comes from a mafia place, so you're off the table. I'll swear up and down Koala is town. Still thinking positively about damo despite the koala vote.

Regarding worcej: doesn’t come out to say I am sus, but picks up on jamie’s read (my numbered posts escapade). Gets jamie to do the legwork (which is minimal at best since it’s not a strong read on jamie’s part) in causing me to be mafiaread. That's a poor way of putting it. What it does is casts some doubt into my towniness. Mistaking my post counts from previous games (describes me as a low-volume poster trying to seem “into” the game); not AI but is this a purposeful idea-generator (or whatever one wants to call it). Professes a “new” playstyle (gets a pass if it’s not “read right.”) Was he the only person to “hedge” about my “don’t post reads” thesis? Votes rivera BUT declares my anti-list vibe as suspect.
For N1, nothing substantial, other than a bussing question when it came to killing Kak.
I get that the travel has hampered their participation but the gut-reads from D1 linger hard.

##VOTE worcej

I like this case, and worcej is in my POE based on everyone's interaction with Kakarroto.

##VOTE worcej

[bozotheclown]

You all are so scummy. I'll look into worcej soon.

##vote bozo

I do actually like Jamiet's point that Bozo knows that we were all joking there (he was joking with us) so it's a bit weird he's saying Jamiet was serious with his flyingboat vote now.

Bozo’s case against Jamie comes off as an OMGUS, which is indeed not something I am used to seeing from him.

This seems like another example of what HB was talking about, possibly an attempt to draw attention to suspicion on potential mis-kills.

[bozotheclown]

Let's do a survey!

Question 1: What will happen if I ##Vote Bozotheclown ?

ghug goes down to only one vote and bozo goes up to one vote

but looking at the vote count I remembered Koala's reaction. I mean, the computer thing looks funny and such, but I'm very estranged that his own personality is locked behind something and cannot be activated by us. I first thought that it was a reaction test to see if anyone would want the real Koala, but with that lock certainly not.

also his brainbomb impression is extremely lacking. Brain would've posted more and brought out theories and tried to make people react. Instead Koala talks about brains birthday that just happened (on that note: happy birthday again, dear brainbomb) but not much more. I don't like it, feels too much like a smokescreen to hide behind.

Also I don't like his bona vote. Bona is a bit silent in this game, but I get good vibes from him. ##vote Koala Don't hide behind a wall of smoke.

This is the post where I thought Kakarroto was trying to pocket Bonatogether. It is also the only reason I had to think Bonatogether is town, but it is subtle enough of a defense of Bonatogether that I would not rule out it coming from a teammate.

[bozotheclown]

Also I should vote ... man, currently I don't have any strong feelings. My personal preference would make me want to vote a lurker/one who haven't posted, but that's kinda dumb in this situation.

The most I've had a bad reaction was for Flum (instantly declaring me town), HamiltonBrian (the numbering makes his post a bit dishonest) and worcej (him instantly going for the 3 as the mafia team could be a slip). Though I can see all three doing that as town.

Hmm ... ##vote Fluminator for his potential buddying

There is probably one case of distancing in these 3.

[damo666]

Stand what, exactly? Are you voting Koala because you genuinely suspect them or are you just interested in clearing the game of them for other reasons?

Unnecessariness

Hi Damo would you please answer this question – why did you encourage the Unnecessariness by playing along and engaging with me entirely on your own volition? Happy Birthday, Pod Bay Doors, even being the only person who actually bothered to vote in the Bandersnatch as opposed to flat out ignoring me?

Like, I hate when people post politics because that's not why I'm here. But you don't see me replying to provocative political posts. So why do you engage with something unnecessary?

I found the 200 ref funny.

I voted C to make you stop codespeak and impersonations.

I voted for you not because I particularly think you are scum but because I was getting frustrated at the excess verbosity. You seem to have calmed it down now so I think I will move my vote.

[damo666]

Well not much of a surprise NK.

I think the scumpair are within {Bona, bozo, Koala, rdr , worcej} but not specifically {bozo, worcej}.

If any of my assumed town have a strong argument why one or more of my scumpool can be moved to townpool please shout.

I don't have any particular scumread and statistically I ought to vote between Bona rdr and Koala. Having said I'll move off K it's a toss up. Let's try ##vote rdr

[damo666]

1801 short.

[Jamiet99uk]

You all are so scummy. I'll look into worcej soon.

##vote bozo

I do actually like Jamiet's point that Bozo knows that we were all joking there (he was joking with us) so it's a bit weird he's saying Jamiet was serious with his flyingboat vote now.

Bozo’s case against Jamie comes off as an OMGUS, which is indeed not something I am used to seeing from him.

Bozo: "Har har, Vote THEFluminator"
Jamie: "Har har, Vote THEBozotheclown"
Bozo: Oh actually Vote Jamie.
Jamie: Oh actually Vote Bozo.

Later:

Bozo: Jamie, why did you change your mind about the TFB wagon?

Yeah this progression is very weird.

[Jamiet99uk]

I like you koala, but you're going to need to get used to people voting you and going against you. I don't know your previous experience but the ringer you're going through right now is not bad at all compared to what I see some players go through. Getting miskilled is miserable but it will happen one day if it's not this game and it's just a part of the process.

Don't take anything personally. If you feel hurt by Damo he's an older guy who sometimes gets upset at things but it's not personal. A long time ago I posted the bee movie script in a game and he was so angry at me lmao.

In Damo's defence, that was pretty annoying.

[Jamiet99uk]

You all are so scummy. I'll look into worcej soon.

##vote bozo

I do actually like Jamiet's point that Bozo knows that we were all joking there (he was joking with us) so it's a bit weird he's saying Jamiet was serious with his flyingboat vote now.

I was looking at the bot when I posted this:

I did not like either of those wagons.
I scumread you.
I felt there was a possibility people would move to you (about which I was correct, your wagon went up to 3 quite quickly).

There were 3 wagons with 3 votes each.

What did you not like about the KoalaAttack and Kakarroto wagons? Why did you no longer like the TFB wagon, which you left to vote for me?

At the time I was not thinking about how Jamiet originally voted for TFB.

However, that does not change the basis for my question, because TFB was an available wagon.

No no Bozo, you don't get away that easily.

It DOES change the context of your question, because your question presumes I went from actually wanting to daykill TFB, to changing my mind and wanting to kill you. You now know that wasn't the case, ever. I didn't change my mind about TFB. I never genuinely intended to end the phase on his wagon. I voted for you.

[Jamiet99uk]

@BOZOTHECLOWN

Could you actually address my posts and not just side-step me?

Thank you in advance.

[rdrivera2005]

Well not much of a surprise NK.

I think the scumpair are within {Bona, bozo, Koala, rdr , worcej} but not specifically {bozo, worcej}.

If any of my assumed town have a strong argument why one or more of my scumpool can be moved to townpool please shout.

I don't have any particular scumread and statistically I ought to vote between Bona rdr and Koala. Having said I'll move off K it's a toss up. Let's try ##vote rdr

Why you have to vote between me, Bona and Koala?

Your playstile this game is writing one liners, not giving reads and making naked votes. The only reason I am not pushing you is your Kak votes and I am starting to.consider it might be a buss.

[damo666]

Well not much of a surprise NK.

I think the scumpair are within {Bona, bozo, Koala, rdr , worcej} but not specifically {bozo, worcej}.

If any of my assumed town have a strong argument why one or more of my scumpool can be moved to townpool please shout.

I don't have any particular scumread and statistically I ought to vote between Bona rdr and Koala. Having said I'll move off K it's a toss up. Let's try ##vote rdr

Why you have to vote between me, Bona and Koala?

Your playstile this game is writing one liners, not giving reads and making naked votes. The only reason I am not pushing you is your Kak votes and I am starting to.consider it might be a buss.

I townread hB FLum and Jamie. Bozo and worcej are suboptimal.

[Jamiet99uk]

Damo your effort so far has been pretty suboptimal tbh