M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1041 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:07 pm

In the very near future we should have a 40+ game.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1042 Post by KoalaAttack » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:08 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:04 pm
drawing out reactions is meh. solve, dammit

everyone plays how they want but ultimately something needs to get out of it
I'm trying. At the moment, I am having this interaction with you and solving / evaluating your alignment in my head by comparing this to my experience with you in the last game.

So I am getting something out of it. Currently, on my internal scale of 10 being Towniest and 1 being Mafiaest, you are a 4. If it goes much lower, I will summarize my case for others and cast a vote. It hasn't reached that threshold yet. And if it goes higher, I will move onto the inquisiton of the next subject in my mind.

And yep, you are correct that I never played with you as Town. Oh well, I use the tools & data I have.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1043 Post by KoalaAttack » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:11 pm

Damo, the previous post was my post 666, can I get a cookie?

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1044 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:13 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:27 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:57 pm
please don't discuss prs in the thread
So how do I go about figuring them out in the Closed Setup game when I don't have a Mafia chat with confirmed-teammates available to me?
Why do you think you need to find the PRs...?
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GOOD AFTERNOON!]

#1045 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:14 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:41 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:12 pm
Good afternoon, Hamilton Brian.
actually you posted this at 11am :geek: :geek:
It was afternoon in the UK.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1046 Post by Jamiet99uk » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:16 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:07 pm
In the very near future we should have a 40+ game.
A game where you can only people aged over 40 can play?
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1047 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:18 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:16 pm
Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:07 pm
In the very near future we should have a 40+ game.
A game where you can only people aged over 40 can play?
Yes, where I hopefully won't have to decipher meme-speak and any of the stuff the youngsters are tiktoking about today.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1048 Post by KoalaAttack » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:19 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:13 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:27 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:57 pm
please don't discuss prs in the thread
So how do I go about figuring them out in the Closed Setup game when I don't have a Mafia chat with confirmed-teammates available to me?
Why do you think you need to find the PRs...?
Well knowing how many Mafias and what PRs they are seems obviously helpful to winning the game so we can hunt them down better.

Town PRs are less directly useful, but my understanding is that there is a certain sense of what a balanced game looks like. And there is even a Mafia Council that approves and reviews them. So like there wouldn't be a game with 3 Town Doctors and 3 Town Vigilantes and only 2 Vanilla Mafias, right?

I personally would find it helpful to have at least a guess on what the actual setup looks like. Shrug – are you going to tell me this is doing it wrong again?

If we lose this game and next game ghug turns down the option of me playing their way, maybe I should try the vibes thing BK3K loved. Skim & gut-feel galore?

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1049 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:22 pm

Koala, you're doing ok. I think there's a lot of overthinking happening and maybe too many people crowding you with "do this, don't do this."

Keep it simple.

And don't worry about PRs. We've got no information anyway.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1050 Post by KoalaAttack » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:30 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:22 pm
Koala, you're doing ok. I think there's a lot of overthinking happening and maybe too many people crowding you with "do this, don't do this."

Keep it simple.

And don't worry about PRs. We've got no information anyway.
Thanks.


To be clear – I'm super happy to get feedback – between games.

You don't learn chess or poker by asking your opponent for advice mid-game. You do it by analyzing and asking post factum.

Being a Mafia is so much easier because you have the safety of trusted teammates in the Mafia Chat you can bounce ideas off.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1051 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:30 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:59 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Thu Mar 16, 2023 5:13 am
3) You are 100% correct. I do believe that I explicitly and clearly stated that the rationale for the gimmick was to avoid folks using my meta from past games – because Bona has warned me I'm going to get D1 voted for my Mafia deeds in our Mafia chat last game. And I stated this before this game stated, committing to it regardless of my alignment in advance. Now I am simply following through as promised, which as rdrivera correctly called it is ironically my true meta.
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Are you implying I shouldn't have believed you? But our discussion was in a Mafia chat, where presumably you have no reason to lie to me at the time. I think it was just banter at the time, but you know what they say about every joke has a pinch of truth in it... But now you are suggesting this was what, an intentional fake-out for a future game's sake? Nah, I don't buy it.
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1052 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:22 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 12:44 am


Interesting… So – your strongest 2 Town-reads were ghug & myself, who were in the midst of arguing galore with each other.

You say you won’t get killed.
You say I won’t get killed.
You say … nothing about ghug getting killed?

How come?
this isn't a good question
this isn't a useful comment
this isn't a useful reply

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1053 Post by Hamilton Brian » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:38 pm

It can be pretty easy to get down on yourself. This really isn't a very confidence-boosting game, in general. Made harder through trying to sift through so many different personalities behind a keyboard.

I think you'll develop your own style.

Best way to help town is to be obvious-town. Sometimes even that isn't very obvious.

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1054 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:39 pm

Fluminator wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:36 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Fluminator wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 2:53 pm

Do you have meta backing this up? What's your experience in games to make you say this?
yes
i once got him with it before
Which game?
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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1055 Post by KoalaAttack » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:40 pm

Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:33 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:22 pm


this isn't a good question
this isn't a useful comment
this isn't a useful reply
:evil: oh this forum doesn't even have a troll emoji I can use on Bona

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1056 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:43 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:57 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:51 pm
KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:00 pm


It was not intended to. My whole argument with ghug was about defending my approach to playing the game as legitimate and IMHO effective, not promoting my Towniness (which is true but unprovable to you).
but it's not effective

man i know the experience of being newer and getting an idea and being told its shit but being convinced, and the answer is my idea sucked, and so does yours
Fair enough. And if that's the case, and I figure out this was the case I will adjust my approach – after this game when the alignment of all the folks giving me advice has been revealed.

This is why I already promised the ghost of ghug to give ghug the option to play the next way "the ghug way" if we lose.

But I'm not particularly receptive to folks of unknown-alignment telling me how to play mid-game. You all have seen my post in the Sign Up thread. Could have told me it was a terrible idea back then... but did anyone tell me that back then? Nope. So now you get the KirbyKoala for this game, and I'll re-evaluate after the game ends.
you can still parse what i'm saying on it's own merits

advice isn't necessarily good or bad depending on who it's from

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1057 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:44 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:01 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:57 pm
please don't discuss prs in the thread
vs
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:49 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 7:53 pm


WELL DONE.
THANKS, BUT KEEP IT QUIET

How is the second part not joking around useless noise against your own advice? And how is your joking around noise better than my impersonation silly-ness?
i don't understand the question

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1058 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:45 pm

Hamilton Brian wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:07 pm
In the very near future we should have a 40+ game.
run a youth game at the same time (on discord so i can post memes)

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

#1059 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:47 pm

KoalaAttack wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:08 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:04 pm
drawing out reactions is meh. solve, dammit

everyone plays how they want but ultimately something needs to get out of it
I'm trying. At the moment, I am having this interaction with you and solving / evaluating your alignment in my head by comparing this to my experience with you in the last game.

So I am getting something out of it. Currently, on my internal scale of 10 being Towniest and 1 being Mafiaest, you are a 4. If it goes much lower, I will summarize my case for others and cast a vote. It hasn't reached that threshold yet. And if it goes higher, I will move onto the inquisiton of the next subject in my mind.

And yep, you are correct that I never played with you as Town. Oh well, I use the tools & data I have.
only a 4? sad

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Re: M1024: Panhandlin' [GOOD AFTERNOON!]

#1060 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:48 pm

Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:14 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 8:41 pm
Jamiet99uk wrote:
Fri Mar 17, 2023 4:12 pm
Good afternoon, Hamilton Brian.
actually you posted this at 11am :geek: :geek:
It was afternoon in the UK.
teatime in monarchia? :sick: :sick:

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