M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't have secret info, I just wanted to take advantage of the closed setup by fake claiming something mysterious and I was curious too see how people would react. The day was going so slowly and something had too happen.

I am curious if the global townread on me was in part because Mafia didn't want to risk calling my bluff. (While I'd expect town too not be worried about pushing me when I was clear I had no PR powers) But with the Kak flip that's a much stronger thing too base things off instead of my reaction test so I'm not reading to much into it anymore.

Do you have any further analysis on people's reactions to your fakery?

[Jamiet99uk]

Good afternoon, Hamilton Brian.

[Jamiet99uk]

##shoot Bona

I challenge everyone to do this.

Damo, could you explain, what was the point of this exactly?

[Jamiet99uk]

I feel so alone.

[worcej]

But while you're here bozo, let me lay a little something on you. This is just gut stuff and there's nothing conclusive, obviously, but I feel like I need to get it off my chest.

The interaction between jamie and worcej on D1 has bugged me since then.

I was numbering my posts. I felt like it was harmless "fun" to poke fun of the expectations that we were aware of. Jamie really reacted negatively about it. Worcej comes in and questions jamie about it. Not so much a "defense" of HB but developing the makings for conflict.

Mafia exist to tarnish town to provoke a miskill. They then keep those "suspect" players around to continue enabling the miskills.

Does mafiajamie focus in on someone so early for a banal reason? Does townjamie? Does townworcej then defend, if not outright buddy, said player?

I felt like the back and forth between jamie and worcej was contrived on D1.

Am I crazy?

Do we put them both up on the dock today?

I mean, we just had a game with a lot of scum theater so I don’t think it’s wrong to suspect it’s existence.

I honestly thought Jamie was overreacting to your numbering and wanted to call attention to that.

[worcej]

I feel so alone.

You got 2.5 hours of me - I am stuck in a metal tube flying home lol

[worcej]

The same reason you're townreading HR?

I am townreading HB (ok, changed a letter). Who do you mean with TFB?

I assumed Worcej was drunk so played along wondering which player would take the low hanging fruit and correct us.

I will admit I was posting from the hotel bar and was trying to figure out who was the non-posters you were referencing and saw his name in the bot in that.

[worcej]

Why do you think it’s weird?

Why do you not explain your read more?

Answering a question with a question, tut tut.

He started it

[Jamiet99uk]

Hello Worcej.

What do you make of Bozo questioning me about joining and leaving the TFB wagon, while apparently being totally oblivious to the fact that my vote for TFB, and my move off TFB, happened in exactly the same circumstances as Bozo's own vote for TFB and subsequent move off?

[bozotheclown]

I am townreading HB (ok, changed a letter). Who do you mean with TFB?

I assumed Worcej was drunk so played along wondering which player would take the low hanging fruit and correct us.

I will admit I was posting from the hotel bar and was trying to figure out who was the non-posters you were referencing and saw his name in the bot in that.

I'm leaning towards thinking we kill out of the people who haven't posted yet today.

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

Which one of us did you think was more likely to be town than TFB?

[Jamiet99uk]

To be completely transparent:

- During D1 there was some confusion and/or fun stemming from the fact that the PeterBot will read any vote starting with "The" as a vote for "TheFlyingBoat".

- Bozo observed this and placed a joke vote for "TheFluminator". A little later, he moved his vote onto me, his actual target (although he did not scumread me when he started voting for me, as he has admitted).

- I joined in with the same fun and voted "TheBozotheclown", before moving my vote onto Bozo, my actual scumread.

Today, however, Bozo has been questioning me about my participation in the TFB wagon, as if he thought I scumread TFB and then changed my mind. This suggests he was totally unaware that my vote for TFB was a joke vote even though he did exactly the same thing himself.

[bozotheclown]

The answer is - and this is ironic, Bozo:

- I joined the TFB wagon for the same reason you joined it.
- I left the TFB wagon for the same reason that you left it.

Do you get it now?

You were on TFB's wagon with this post, which I think would be considered a valid vote for TFB despite the bot recording it incorrectly:

I'll townread the next person to
##Vote Flyingboat

Have it your way.

##Vote Flyingboat

[worcej]

I assumed Worcej was drunk so played along wondering which player would take the low hanging fruit and correct us.

I will admit I was posting from the hotel bar and was trying to figure out who was the non-posters you were referencing and saw his name in the bot in that.

I'm leaning towards thinking we kill out of the people who haven't posted yet today.

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

Which one of us did you think was more likely to be town than TFB?

None actually at this point?

I still am suspicious of rdr heavily and the least suspicious of you in the group.

I think Bona not posting may be a mechanical thing…

[worcej]

Hello Worcej.

What do you make of Bozo questioning me about joining and leaving the TFB wagon, while apparently being totally oblivious to the fact that my vote for TFB, and my move off TFB, happened in exactly the same circumstances as Bozo's own vote for TFB and subsequent move off?

reviewing this sequence now to comment.

[Jamiet99uk]

The answer is - and this is ironic, Bozo:

- I joined the TFB wagon for the same reason you joined it.
- I left the TFB wagon for the same reason that you left it.

Do you get it now?

You were on TFB's wagon with this post, which I think would be considered a valid vote for TFB despite the bot recording it incorrectly:

I'll townread the next person to
##Vote Flyingboat

Have it your way.

##Vote Flyingboat

No. That was a vote for Fluminator. The bot is accurate.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE THEBOZOTHECLOWN

[Hamilton Brian]

Good afternoon, Hamilton Brian.

Good afternoon to you, as well. Idle time.

[worcej]

To be completely transparent:

- During D1 there was some confusion and/or fun stemming from the fact that the PeterBot will read any vote starting with "The" as a vote for "TheFlyingBoat".

- Bozo observed this and placed a joke vote for "TheFluminator". A little later, he moved his vote onto me, his actual target (although he did not scumread me when he started voting for me, as he has admitted).

- I joined in with the same fun and voted "TheBozotheclown", before moving my vote onto Bozo, my actual scumread.

Today, however, Bozo has been questioning me about my participation in the TFB wagon, as if he thought I scumread TFB and then changed my mind. This suggests he was totally unaware that my vote for TFB was a joke vote even though he did exactly the same thing himself.

And did you react poorly to his questioning of you and immediately go on the offensive because of his questions?

[Jamiet99uk]

To be completely transparent:

- During D1 there was some confusion and/or fun stemming from the fact that the PeterBot will read any vote starting with "The" as a vote for "TheFlyingBoat".

- Bozo observed this and placed a joke vote for "TheFluminator". A little later, he moved his vote onto me, his actual target (although he did not scumread me when he started voting for me, as he has admitted).

- I joined in with the same fun and voted "TheBozotheclown", before moving my vote onto Bozo, my actual scumread.

Today, however, Bozo has been questioning me about my participation in the TFB wagon, as if he thought I scumread TFB and then changed my mind. This suggests he was totally unaware that my vote for TFB was a joke vote even though he did exactly the same thing himself.

And did you react poorly to his questioning of you and immediately go on the offensive because of his questions?

I addressed his question and then began to push him because one plank of his question was bad and suggested a lazy thought process.

I have not reacted poorly.

Is it wrong of me to pressure someone that I am scumreading?

[Hamilton Brian]

I mean, we just had a game with a lot of scum theater so I don’t think it’s wrong to suspect it’s existence.

I honestly thought Jamie was overreacting to your numbering and wanted to call attention to that.
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Do you have any conclusion regarding that ^^^^^? Did you think it odd from jamie or typical NAI jamie?

Given the time in between your last post on D1 (your rivera vote post if you don't recall) and now, has your opinion changed? Why would you still vote them on D2? Why would you not?