M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[rdrivera2005]

[quote=bozotheclown post_id=334259 time=1679056294 user_id=222]
[quote=rdrivera2005 post_id=334253 time=1679047123 user_id=121]
[quote="Hamilton Brian" post_id=334226 time=1679022097 user_id=293]


Can you please share why you believe Flum is town?

For me, there were some early posts that made me think, "They know something," or "They're holding something."

Now, I am not so sure.

What about HB gives you townleanings? I don't think I've had a good game at all and I feel like I'm providing more doubt than clarity.
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My main reason to townread Flum yesterday was the PR or something he was claiming. I don't think Mafia makes this kind of move as it draw attention and could backfire badly. After Kak flips the interaction between him and Flum also doesn't look scum x scum..

On your case, I liked the way you interacted with Jamiet on the numbering thing and also your reaction to Flum. Don't think scum would be so upfront in a,closed setup. You also displayed a level of irritation I don't think you have as scum, but this is a weaker reason as it can be faked.
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This seems reasonable, so if you are town and you assume I am town, which I realize may not be obvious to you, what do you think is more likely:

1. damo was bussing Kakarroto
2. Kakarroto was bussing KoalaAttack
3. the mafia are in Bonatogether/Jamiet/worcej
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I know I am town but I am not sure you are town, specially because of yesterday, your tunnel on Jamiet and the lack of good reads looks a lot scum Bozo. Today you look more like town Bozo. Assuming you are town:

I think 3 is the most likely, at least one Mafia in Bona/Jamiet/Worcej. Maybe even two if you are really town and there is 3 Mafia.

1 is the less likely. I can see Damo bussing Kak when he asked Ghug to be next if he was town. It's a subtle to keep a way out. But voting the second time after the wagon almost died is not likely.

2 is on the middle. I have a lot of doubts about Koala and I was obviously wrong about how scum Kak play, so I won't rule this out but it's less likely then 3.

[Hamilton Brian]

For what it's worth, I'm not seeing the bozo-jamie interaction as necessarily egregious. It certainly evoked a reaction but I also don't see it as indicative of mafiabozo.

I don't think I've read a good read yet.

[Hamilton Brian]

Actually, that's incorrect. Rivera gave a decent writeup around Flum and myself.

[Hamilton Brian]

Bonatogether is traveling in the southeast US, yeah? Do they tend to disappear when mafia?

[Hamilton Brian]

1 is the less likely. I can see Damo bussing Kak when he asked Ghug to be next if he was town. It's a subtle to keep a way out. But voting the second time after the wagon almost died is not likely.

Having reread D1 with this in mind, I don't see a mafia teammate playing so cavalier-like. Also of note was the competitiveness of those top wagons during that period of time.

It's loose thinking, but I do think damo is probably town.

[Fluminator]

Bonatogether is traveling in the southeast US, yeah? Do they tend to disappear when mafia?

He was Mafia last game and the highest poster.
But he obviously wouldn't play the same way twice.

[Fluminator]

##Bona
He said he'd be back by now. Too often I see scum promising they'll be back and then coast off that as long as possible

[Fluminator]

oh eod is now

lol

Did you not know it was eod originally? Did you get lucky you checked in just 15 minutes before?

[Fluminator]

Where's bozo, I feel like he may give me some clarity with his analyses

I gave KoalaAttack a gun.

joking bozo is scum bozo

##vote bozo

Do you have meta backing this up? What's your experience in games to make you say this?

[Fluminator]

Let's kill Kak.

Yeah

no

Being wrong doesn't make you scum but why didn't you want kak?

[Fluminator]

koalers vs jamie has a scum in it and it's jamie

[sheeps Jamie on a shitty wagon]

idk who's on what wagon or what the wagons are

This feels like obfuscating confusion when you recently checked the bot to know eod was soon.
I buy you not tracking who's on what wagon, but you definitely knew what the wagons were right?

[Hamilton Brian]

There is this perception that absence = mafianess. Sometimes it's borne out to be true.

The most memorable thing I have about Bona thus far is them posting to produce a reaction, whereupon jamie asked if something Bona had posted had been a "dumbslip."

[Fluminator]

i forgot why i'm voting bozo

EOD is really just you pretending to be clueless. Considering you restate joking bozo is scum bozo not long after.

Idk, after reading this performance everything seems very disingenuine from bona at eod.

[Fluminator]

ghug is scum again

Why was this your thought at the time when kak just flipped mafia and ghug was one of the main pushers.

Did you get bussing vibes from him?

[Fluminator]

meant to ##Vote Bona
lol
time to get some wagons going.

[Hamilton Brian]

Going back to bozo's questions to rivera, I think it's unlikely that Kak bussed Koala.

I'd say there's a good chance that there's at least one mafia between worcej and Bona.

[bozotheclown]

##VOTE Bozo

For saying that my behaviour appeared to be a way I would behave as Mafia, voting for me, and then saying he didn't think I was Mafia aligned.

Town Bozo is better than this.

With 3 wagons tied with 3 votes, why did you think the best option was to start a new wagon in the last hour of D1?

I did not like either of those wagons.
I scumread you.
I felt there was a possibility people would move to you (about which I was correct, your wagon went up to 3 quite quickly).

There were 3 wagons with 3 votes each.

What did you not like about the KoalaAttack and Kakarroto wagons? Why did you no longer like the TFB wagon, which you left to vote for me?

[Jamiet99uk]

With 3 wagons tied with 3 votes, why did you think the best option was to start a new wagon in the last hour of D1?

I did not like either of those wagons.
I scumread you.
I felt there was a possibility people would move to you (about which I was correct, your wagon went up to 3 quite quickly).

There were 3 wagons with 3 votes each.

What did you not like about the KoalaAttack and Kakarroto wagons? Why did you no longer like the TFB wagon, which you left to vote for me?

I thought Koala was annoying town, not Mafia.

I was entirely unsure about Kak, leaning town (so whoever shot him did us a
big favour).

Do you know why I was voting for TFB? Your question suggests you do not know.

[Jamiet99uk]

Again lazy questioning from Bozo.

[Jamiet99uk]

The answer is - and this is ironic, Bozo:

- I joined the TFB wagon for the same reason you joined it.
- I left the TFB wagon for the same reason that you left it.

Do you get it now?