M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[worcej]

Well you can fuck off.

I'm sorry Ghug has died.

Jamie also RIPs - it’s NAI

Though I do question the authenticities of it based off the ghug jokes.

Right? Things have been contentious between jamie and bozo. Does jamie still offer a RIP with bozo dying? NAI.

Jamie RIPs any town death in just about every game.

[Hamilton Brian]

damo read seems weird here - can you explain more?

Why do you think it’s weird?

[worcej]

I think it unlikely that I get killed tonight. I also doubt koala gets axed. My two strongest town liens are.Koala and ghug.

Interesting… So – your strongest 2 Town-reads were ghug & myself, who were in the midst of arguing galore with each other.

You say you won’t get killed.
You say I won’t get killed.
You say … nothing about ghug getting killed?

How come?

I am not townread enough right now; mafia benefit from me being alive since I am a living, walking, breathing shroud of doubt. I townread you, and explained better in a post to jame, but how you're playing right now is not "town friendly," so you're good to keep around. Ghug was my strongest townread. In the pantheon of this "town," I would have expected ghug to take an axe, but it wouldn't be wise for me to write, "I think ghug dies this Night," would it be?

I don’t know why being doubtful makes you more inclined to not be NK’ed - everyone of us should have some level of doubt in our reads so that we can be rational instead of just tunneling and not listening.

[worcej]

damo read seems weird here - can you explain more?

Why do you think it’s weird?

Why do you not explain your read more?

[worcej]

And just because people are arguing within the game does not dictate their alignment.

I was absolutely apoplectic with ghug two games ago; we were still on the same side.

Arguing is good. Maintaining respect while doing so is also good.

I think this is a very healthy take and I truly believe we are getting better about this as our community has shrunk lately

[worcej]

I'm leaning towards thinking we kill out of the people who haven't posted yet today.

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

[Fluminator]

I'm leaning towards thinking we kill out of the people who haven't posted yet today.

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

Bozo > TFB > RDR
rn

[rdrivera2005]

Well, Ghug was obviously town so it's not a surprise NK.

I still think HR and Flum are town.

I have a lot doubts about Koala, I just don't feel the same Koala of first game but also it's not the same fluffy Koala from last game.

Right now I would say Bozo and Jamiet are my top suspects. Followed by Damo, Bona and Worcej in this order.

Bozo is just forgettable this game which doesn't happen when he is town. And Jamiet reactions seems over the top like he wants to look like angry town Jamiet.

[rdrivera2005]

I'm leaning towards thinking we kill out of the people who haven't posted yet today.

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

Bozo > TFB > RDR
rn

Why on Earth are you two including TFB? He have a good reason to not post today....

[Fluminator]

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

Bozo > TFB > RDR
rn

Why on Earth are you two including TFB? He have a good reason to not post today....

The same reason you're townreading HR?

[rdrivera2005]

Bozo > TFB > RDR
rn

Why on Earth are you two including TFB? He have a good reason to not post today....

The same reason you're townreading HR?

I am townreading HB (ok, changed a letter). Who do you mean with TFB?

[Hamilton Brian]

Of the three, how would you order them?

Mine is: rdr > TFB >> bozo

Bozo > TFB > RDR
rn

Why on Earth are you two including TFB? He have a good reason to not post today....

Drinking Brian laughs a lot at this!!!

[Hamilton Brian]

I still think HR and Flum are town.

Can you please share why you believe Flum is town?

For me, there were some early posts that made me think, "They know something," or "They're holding something."

Now, I am not so sure.

What about HB gives you townleanings? I don't think I've had a good game at all and I feel like I'm providing more doubt than clarity.

[Hamilton Brian]

damo read seems weird here - can you explain more?

Why do you think it’s weird?

Why do you not explain your read more?

You're calling it weird. I'll be happy to explain but I want to know what is rubbing you wrong about it. You're obviously sensing an incongruity so I want to know why.

[Hamilton Brian]

FLum is either scum, PR or VT spoofing to catch people out but that would be bad town. I suspect he will be NKd tonight. Hope he has a bomb.

This hasn't aged well OR it is otherworldly prescient and foreboding.

[bozotheclown]

Based on everyone's interaction with Kakarroto, I would say Bonatogether, damo, Fluminator, HB, Jamiet, KoalaAttack, and rdrivera seem more likely to be town (compared to not considering their interaction with Kakarroto). However, that only leaves ghug, worcej, and myself.

Could you give me more specific reasons behind why the interactions look good for these people?

You and damo declared Kakarroto was town for unknown reasons and rdrivera was town reading Kakarroto D1, and I don't think mafia are as likely to town read their teammates like that D1. Kakarroto defended Bonatogether in a way that seemed like pocketing, HB voted for Kakarroto at a time that would have been a dedicated bus, Kakarroto's vote for KoalaAttack does not seem likely to be bussing, and Jamiet and Kakarroto both voting for KoalaAttack at about the same time might indicate they are not teammates.

None of this is conclusive, and at least someone on this list is almost certainly mafia, even if worcej is mafia. Maybe ghug was right about KoalaAttack, and Jamiet and Kakarroto were both bussing him. Or maybe you declared Kakarroto town as mafia to go against expectations.

Looking at Kakarroto's posts again, worcej and Jamiet had somewhat meaningless discussions with Kakarroto speculating on the setup, that kind of things seems like a way mafia teammates might interact.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, I am very sick of your shit already.

As EoD approached I repeatedly engaged with your suspicions of me. Your response was to ignore me completely.

If you actually suspect me and are not totally full of shit, as you appear to be, please fucking engage with me.

I'm not asking very much but you are behaving with a scum mindset.

I did not suspect you until you pushed to DK the one player voting for you in the last hour of D1. This post was the second reason to suspect you.

Thank you for confirming that you did not scumread or suspect me when you voted for me.

I would like the record to show that Bozo has admitted this.

I did not town read you either, and at EOD I did suspect you for actively trying to get me DKed over all other options, apparently for voting for you. Now knowing there was a mafia at risk at the time you starting pushing me makes it more suspicious.

[bozotheclown]

FLum is either scum, PR or VT spoofing to catch people out but that would be bad town. I suspect he will be NKd tonight. Hope he has a bomb.

This hasn't aged well OR it is otherworldly prescient and foreboding.

What has changed since he posted that made you say this?

[Hamilton Brian]

FLum is either scum, PR or VT spoofing to catch people out but that would be bad town. I suspect he will be NKd tonight. Hope he has a bomb.

This hasn't aged well OR it is otherworldly prescient and foreboding.

What has changed since he posted that made you say this?

The simple fact that Flum wasn't NK'ed.

It does make me question my damo read and I require some time to look all throughout it again.

[Hamilton Brian]

But while you're here bozo, let me lay a little something on you. This is just gut stuff and there's nothing conclusive, obviously, but I feel like I need to get it off my chest.

The interaction between jamie and worcej on D1 has bugged me since then.

I was numbering my posts. I felt like it was harmless "fun" to poke fun of the expectations that we were aware of. Jamie really reacted negatively about it. Worcej comes in and questions jamie about it. Not so much a "defense" of HB but developing the makings for conflict.

Mafia exist to tarnish town to provoke a miskill. They then keep those "suspect" players around to continue enabling the miskills.

Does mafiajamie focus in on someone so early for a banal reason? Does townjamie? Does townworcej then defend, if not outright buddy, said player?

I felt like the back and forth between jamie and worcej was contrived on D1.

Am I crazy?

Do we put them both up on the dock today?