M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[KoalaAttack]

In other words, you say:

"Koala, your play is at least detrimental to Town, if not outright Mafia"...

To which I respond:

"Look at the hard data / facts – we just killed a Mafia who strongly engaged with my play and got lured out to expose themselves. You said you'd take 1 for 1, and I agree with that part at least".

You're welcome to believe this if you want, I guess. As one of Kak's loudest criticizers, I didn't think his vote on you was the damning part as much as the fact he wasn't engaging with much beyond pointless mechanical discussions, whether that be your stuff or speculating on the setup. As a data scientist, you should know that a single data point is likely to be coincidence.

In any case, whatever worldview you choose to take, I suggest using it to do some scumhunting, since that's a common trait of everyone you've considered imitating besides maybe lfischl, and I haven't seen an iota from you yet.

I'm all for a schtick, but you've used yours to a) fill the thread with hard to read schtickposting and b) avoid actually playing the game. I'm fairly sure you know better by now.

Let's just agree to disagree on the first part.

On Mafia Hunting – the only person who can truly claim credit is whoever shot Kak – and the rest of us simply do our best. I could easily say that I find most your posts random trolling and quite useless too – but I understand that you simply have a different approach and I respect that. And to win the vote, we need to convince a bunch of different people. If your approach convinces some, and my approach convinces others, all good.

No, I don't know better. Why is "ghug way" better than "Koala way"? And then we are back to The Perfect Chess Game of Clone Mafia Players.

I promise you I am doing my best to hunt the Mafia here. If you think my best is crap, or that I'm taking the wrong approach – well, that's your issue mate. You are welcome to vote me for it, but I am not going to vote you for your approach because I don't think styles of play are alignment indicative.

[KoalaAttack]

A Guide to Playing Mafia on webDiplomacy
New to mafia? Have played mafia but not on webDiplomacy? Please read this!
Originally written by President Eden.
...

But I have good news for you ghug! EdenKoala is supposed to be doing exactly what you want me to do I reckon.


Proper Straight-Laced Boring Mafia Hunting by popular (well, ghug) request brought to you by EdenKoala

- Who do we think are the Misdirectors vs who are Deep Threats?
- Is the breakdown of these different in a Closed Setup vs Open Setup?

What town objectives is ghug attempting to achieve with his "not so deep analysis" posts? What scum objectives?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamiet, why did your activity drop so much at eod after being one of the most active posters? What was going on for you then?

I was at the Colpitts Inn pub quiz and could only check in during the breaks to avoid it looking like I was cheating at the quiz.

[Jamiet99uk]

**A shot rings out**

Kakarroto has died he was Cleasar, A mafia goon

Just in case it isn't clear:

1: Whoever did this, WELL DONE;

2: Whoever did this, KEEP QUIET until tomorrrow.

[Jamiet99uk]

Someone remind me why we think Koala has a gun?

@Ghug: Why was this your immediate reaction to a shot being fired?

[Jamiet99uk]

How?

You're leaving out bozo's actual justification for a simple narrative.

No. I am summarising what I genuinely believe Bozo to have said about me.

If you are better at interpreting Bozo's words and actions than you think I am, please could you explain why you think he is voting for me?

@Ghug:

Why did you ignore this question?

Can you address it now please??

[Jamiet99uk]

I probably got lucky and Jamiet is mafia, I don't think he would try to get me DKed for voting for him as town.

Bozo, I am very sick of your shit already.

As EoD approached I repeatedly engaged with your suspicions of me. Your response was to ignore me completely.

If you actually suspect me and are not totally full of shit, as you appear to be, please fucking engage with me.

I'm not asking very much but you are behaving with a scum mindset.

[Jamiet99uk]

BOZO is either SCUM or an insincere, unhelpful fool.

GHUG could do better.

I am glad someone shot a scum but jesus fucking christ town needs to generally buck the fuck up.

[Jamiet99uk]

And before anyone says I have a bad attitude or something:

I am calling out people who scumread me and DID NOT RESPOND when I reacted to their scumread, or challenged them. HOW ELSE DO YOU EXPECT ME TO FUCKING REACT??

As a default position it looks to me like Scum tried to Miskill me.

[Jamiet99uk]

Can you explain why you think this vague statement was pointing at Kai?

Sure: I declared I'd suicide if folks didn't chose the Impersonation Target. I postulate that folks who pushed me to suicide are Mafia angling for an easy/safe MK. Kak & Jamiet were the 2 people early on who were pushing my wagon for attempting to Impersonate.

If you still can't follow (and are not Mafia pretending) I can't help you :)

My goodness you are self-obsessed. You must spend 12 hours in front of the mirror every day.

[worcej]

Same with worcej, where is everyone.
When did Kakarakko post last

Worcej is on a Greyhound bus from Idaho to Winnipeg, he might not be able to check the thread.

Pffft… my company at least lets me fly and rent cars and shit

[worcej]

Let's kill Kak.

Yeah

FWIW, does anyone think either of these were busses at the time of posting?

[Jamiet99uk]

Let's kill Kak.

Yeah

FWIW, does anyone think either of these were busses at the time of posting?

Possibly. Both Damo and Ghug's participation D1 was very sketchy.

[worcej]

I was hoping to learn something from catching up on what I missed, but I really didn’t.

The Koala schtick hate is interesting and seems to be growing. Is it really that distracting to you all? It’s weird but he is communicating his thoughts at least.

[worcej]

I feel like there are players being more protective of their opinions than Koala here…

[Jamiet99uk]

I feel like there are players being more protective of their opinions than Koala here…

As usual, I am being as open as I possibly can.

I put it to you that Bozo is the opposite and Ghug is little better. Both have avoided my questions.

I am happy to discuss any issues that are on your mind, Worcej.

[rdrivera2005]

Well, I was wrong about Kak and TFB. Sorry TFB.

Good job Vig, but I still think shooting D1 is a poor choice.

[KoalaAttack]

Can you explain why you think this vague statement was pointing at Kai?

Sure: I declared I'd suicide if folks didn't chose the Impersonation Target. I postulate that folks who pushed me to suicide are Mafia angling for an easy/safe MK. Kak & Jamiet were the 2 people early on who were pushing my wagon for attempting to Impersonate.

If you still can't follow (and are not Mafia pretending) I can't help you :)

My goodness you are self-obsessed. You must spend 12 hours in front of the mirror every day.

I know I even wrote a Mafia Guide and I was told every time someone reads it my ego grows!

Tell me Jamiet, to apply your own rubric – how was this post you just made about 12 hours in front of the mirror helpful for the Town?

The Mafia motivation would be to keep riding the wave of folk's annoyance with Impersonation to MK me. But I am curious, what Town motivations did you have for it?

[rdrivera2005]

Rdr feels off too but he's earned a one round immunity being the go-to N1 Mafia kill.

Ghug and Bona both make a lot of sense as Mafia 2x in a row players too lol.

You always scumread me, lol. And this time I can't even OMGUS you as I think you are town.

Right now I won't vote for Flum, Kak and HB as I believe they are town. Flum because of the weird claim, Kak because of the setup discussions and HR because of the number thing and the reaction to Flum.

I will ##vote TheFlyingBoat as he is the one I just don't remember anything he said this game and he usually have an Impact.

What about Kak's setup discussions made you not want to vote for him?

I didn't expect scum Kak to openly speculate about setup and Mafia roles. Usually scum not engage in this type of speculation to avoid saying something that can be either a scumslip or give info to town when they flip. Looking at Kak posts I am guessing we have 3 scum (2 now) and no strong powers.

[KoalaAttack]

I was hoping to learn something from catching up on what I missed, but I really didn’t.

The Koala schtick hate is interesting and seems to be growing. Is it really that distracting to you all? It’s weird but he is communicating his thoughts at least.

EdenKoala says:

The funny this is – Koala was repeatedly told during the past 2 games that being annoying, or hypocritical, or rude or any of these things is all NAI. And yet somehow, just a bit of silly impersonation roleplaying riles some of the supposedly very experienced Mafia folks up so much... funny, eh?

Maybe someone will slip in the process of being riled up?