M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[Fluminator]

I mostly agree with ghug's reads on things and he's pretty obvious town now. I'll just sheep/buddy him until he inevitably turns on me for being lazy.

[Fluminator]

Bozo, why were you so interested in pushing the ghug/jamiet countervotes specifically when there were many other wagons at the time? Were the other ones not that compelling to you?

[Fluminator]

In case I get nightkilled tonight, maybe I’ll share my insider knowledge I was talking about before eon.

[Fluminator]

Assuming mafia get a nightkill in, we have 9 town with probably 2 scum meaning we still only have 2 miskills before we lose. We're only even right now.

I think ghug/damo/hamilton can all be safely assumed as town for being on the kak wagon until at least we use the first miskill.

[Fluminator]

Jamiet, why did your activity drop so much at eod after being one of the most active posters? What was going on for you then?

[KoalaAttack]

I am back, catching up now

BrainKoala 2: ghug, Kakarroto
BozoKoala 1: worcej
KoalaKoala 1: Jamiet99uk
lfischlKoala 1: Hamilton Brain

i vote for edenkoala

Acknowledged

[KoalaAttack]

**A shot rings out**

Kakarroto has died he was Cleasar, A mafia goon

Woohoo! Great job someone, and I am feeling pretty vindicated about this now:

If I get voted and flip Town, I urge other real Townies to read back through the thread and see who has pushed for my self-destruct the hardest. Given I've been telegraphing the intent pretty blatantly, they are likely to be Mafia opportunistically jumping on the chance for an easy MK. Especially if they don't know who the other Mafia are as some of you hypothesized. Good luck and may the force be with you!



PS: Look Jamiet, I’m helping the town even while dead. I am basically E.D.I.T.H. by Stark Industries – oh wait that’s another AI joke… last one?

And also I am feeling quite suspicious of Jamiet who was the 2nd person voting me for the very Mafia reasons I outlined above for Kak. Yeah, I heard your explanations Jamiet. But the same reasoning as for Kak applies, and said reasoning was just proven correct.

[KoalaAttack]

##VOTE Koala

wrong

I would like to understand more why ghug voted for me here, after my strategy of Impersonation has clearly worked to at least get Kak to react to it and be correctly judged for it by whomever had the gun.

[KoalaAttack]

TheFlyingBoat has died he was Reanimated John McCain a Vanilla Townie

Night 1 has begun
You may now Post

Poop. RIP TFB, thanks for helping us hunt Mafia.

I will analyze what happened here after tallying up the Impersonation votes.

[KoalaAttack]

Checking in as promised – no major new cases or epiphanies I can get behind. My vote shall stay put, I’ll be back tonight.


My Non-Defense:

terminal:> command MANDATORY_VODE unpacked, executing...
terminal:>
terminal:> [] [] [] [] [] [] [] [... . . . . . . . . . . . .
terminal:>
terminal:> ERROR: Zero ##KOALA votes tallied so far:
terminal:> ...
terminal:> stack-trace unavailable
terminal:> ...
terminal:>
terminal:> self-destruct initiated
terminal:>
terminal:> ##VOTE KoalaAttack
terminal:>
terminal:> Please ##KOALA [username] to abort the self-destruct sequance

t:> DEBUG: This is the correct interpretation.

Also this from last game


Gamification Achievement:
+ rdrivera wins "Speaks with The Machines" for seeing the numbers behind The Matrix

Which in turn means that none of my behavior and being immovable on "I said I'll do X, I'm doing X, damn it" should come as a surprise to Jamiet.

Unless half the players ##KOALA, we will assume that our Impersonation Target product has failed to secure product-market-fit and as the result of the focus group feedback we will shelf this project* to come back to market with newer alternatives in the future**
*
##VOTE KoalaAttack
**
future game, that is

The above should be self-explanatory. If in doubt, ##KOALA [username]. If in doubt of whom to ##KOALA, vote KoalaAttack.


My KoalaKoala-style Dying Declaration statement in case I get MKed or NKed:

If I get voted and flip Town, I urge other real Townies to read back through the thread and see who has pushed for my self-destruct the hardest. Given I've been telegraphing the intent pretty blatantly, they are likely to be Mafia opportunistically jumping on the chance for an easy MK. Especially if they don't know who the other Mafia are as some of you hypothesized. Good luck and may the force be with you!



PS: Look Jamiet, I’m helping the town even while dead. I am basically E.D.I.T.H. by Stark Industries – oh wait that’s another AI joke… last one?

PPS: also, Thank You for letting me get back to coding more and reading this thread less. Maybe I can code a Mafia-playing AI?

Beep Boop Mr. Robot Koala

Can I ask why you were so quick to be a martyr when you only had 3 votes on you, one of them being yourself?

Sure – I don't feel I was.


First – the red quoted post above was waaaay early long before any significant wagons materialized, so I have been open & transparent about this plan from the early on and not sure why you say "so quick"


Second – here is the voting situation before & after my second self-vote:

01:27 The Koa➙Bon 5 The 2 Kak 2 Koa 1 rdr
01:27 Koa The➙Koa 4 The 3 Koa 2 Kak 1 rdr

So, before it was a 5 / 2 / 2 with clear winner TFB (now proven Townie) – while I made it a closer 4 / 3 / 2 basically endangering myself. So I am also not sure why you say "only 3 votes" in this situation.

[ghug]

**A shot rings out**

Kakarroto has died he was Cleasar, A mafia goon

Woohoo! Great job someone, and I am feeling pretty vindicated about this now:

If I get voted and flip Town, I urge other real Townies to read back through the thread and see who has pushed for my self-destruct the hardest. Given I've been telegraphing the intent pretty blatantly, they are likely to be Mafia opportunistically jumping on the chance for an easy MK. Especially if they don't know who the other Mafia are as some of you hypothesized. Good luck and may the force be with you!



PS: Look Jamiet, I’m helping the town even while dead. I am basically E.D.I.T.H. by Stark Industries – oh wait that’s another AI joke… last one?

And also I am feeling quite suspicious of Jamiet who was the 2nd person voting me for the very Mafia reasons I outlined above for Kak. Yeah, I heard your explanations Jamiet. But the same reasoning as for Kak applies, and said reasoning was just proven correct.

Can you explain why you think this vague statement was pointing at Kai?

[ghug]

**A shot rings out**

Kakarroto has died he was Cleasar, A mafia goon

Woohoo! Great job someone, and I am feeling pretty vindicated about this now:

If I get voted and flip Town, I urge other real Townies to read back through the thread and see who has pushed for my self-destruct the hardest. Given I've been telegraphing the intent pretty blatantly, they are likely to be Mafia opportunistically jumping on the chance for an easy MK. Especially if they don't know who the other Mafia are as some of you hypothesized. Good luck and may the force be with you!



PS: Look Jamiet, I’m helping the town even while dead. I am basically E.D.I.T.H. by Stark Industries – oh wait that’s another AI joke… last one?

And also I am feeling quite suspicious of Jamiet who was the 2nd person voting me for the very Mafia reasons I outlined above for Kak. Yeah, I heard your explanations Jamiet. But the same reasoning as for Kak applies, and said reasoning was just proven correct.

Can you explain why you think this vague statement was pointing at Kai?

Kak*

[ghug]

##VOTE Koala

wrong

I would like to understand more why ghug voted for me here, after my strategy of Impersonation has clearly worked to at least get Kak to react to it and be correctly judged for it by whomever had the gun.

This is an incredibly convenient narrative you're trying to construct...

[KoalaAttack]

And now the moment you have all been eagerly waiting for!

BrainKoala 2: ghug, Kakarroto
EdenKoala 1: Bonatogether
BozoKoala 1: worcej
KoalaKoala 1: Jamiet99uk
lfischlKoala 1: Hamilton Brain

The Evil Kakarroto has their malicious vote disqualified with our new knowledge.

I am also going to disqualify KoalaKoala as the choice, since The Evil Kakarroto was originally asking for this and I shut it down, before changing my mind after Jamiet's arguments. Clearly, this was an outcome desired by at least one Mafia.

That leaves us with a 4 way tie: Brain, Eden, Bozo, lfisch

Hmm... lfischlKoala is the easiest, but least helpful for the Town for obvious lurker reasons. Scratch that. BozoKoala would come with more Computer-speak, and since some folks clearly hate it, I'm not going to do that without a clear vote majority.

That leaves Brain & Eden. I have already been Brain, plus Brain is GM-ing and I find it very hard to out-Brain the Brain.... While Eden, on the other hand, is actually easy to Impersonate – I can simply follow their Mafia Guide as my holy bible!

It's decided: Hello everyone, EdenKoala reporting for duty for the remainder of the game! Please submit any complaints to

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[KoalaAttack]

wrong

I would like to understand more why ghug voted for me here, after my strategy of Impersonation has clearly worked to at least get Kak to react to it and be correctly judged for it by whomever had the gun.

This is an incredibly convenient narrative you're trying to construct...

It's only convenient if I constructed it post-factum. But I constructed it before any of this happened already, I'm simply referring you back to it now.

[KoalaAttack]

Can you explain why you think this vague statement was pointing at Kai?

Sure: I declared I'd suicide if folks didn't chose the Impersonation Target. I postulate that folks who pushed me to suicide are Mafia angling for an easy/safe MK. Kak & Jamiet were the 2 people early on who were pushing my wagon for attempting to Impersonate.

If you still can't follow (and are not Mafia pretending) I can't help you :)

[ghug]

I would like to understand more why ghug voted for me here, after my strategy of Impersonation has clearly worked to at least get Kak to react to it and be correctly judged for it by whomever had the gun.

This is an incredibly convenient narrative you're trying to construct...

It's only convenient if I constructed it post-factum. But I constructed it before any of this happened already, I'm simply referring you back to it now.

You didn't accuse Kak directly for it though, so to act now like you were calling him out is a little silly.

I voted you because I didn't especially like the other wagons and your play at the very least is detrimental to town, if not outright scummy. You've played twice now, so you know that scum casting an early vote on you without an accompanying wagon doesn't clear you.

[KoalaAttack]

I voted you because I didn't especially like the other wagons and your play at the very least is detrimental to town, if not outright scummy. You've played twice now, so you know that scum casting an early vote on you without an accompanying wagon doesn't clear you.

I respectfully disagree. I am a Data Scientist – data does not lie.

My play has caused Kak to engage – did it not?
Kak posted a bunch of stuff on it – did they not?
Whoever shot Kak presumably did it based on things Kak said – can we assume this?

So, by my logic, my play has at least partially contributed to outing The Evil Kak.

We can agree to disagree though?

[KoalaAttack]

In other words, you say:

"Koala, your play is at least detrimental to Town, if not outright Mafia"...

To which I respond:

"Look at the hard data / facts – we just killed a Mafia who strongly engaged with my play and got lured out to expose themselves. You said you'd take 1 for 1, and I agree with that part at least".

[ghug]

In other words, you say:

"Koala, your play is at least detrimental to Town, if not outright Mafia"...

To which I respond:

"Look at the hard data / facts – we just killed a Mafia who strongly engaged with my play and got lured out to expose themselves. You said you'd take 1 for 1, and I agree with that part at least".

You're welcome to believe this if you want, I guess. As one of Kak's loudest criticizers, I didn't think his vote on you was the damning part as much as the fact he wasn't engaging with much beyond pointless mechanical discussions, whether that be your stuff or speculating on the setup. As a data scientist, you should know that a single data point is likely to be coincidence.

In any case, whatever worldview you choose to take, I suggest using it to do some scumhunting, since that's a common trait of everyone you've considered imitating besides maybe lfischl, and I haven't seen an iota from you yet.

I'm all for a schtick, but you've used yours to a) fill the thread with hard to read schtickposting and b) avoid actually playing the game. I'm fairly sure you know better by now.