M1024: Panhandlin' [GAME THREAD]

[Kakarroto]

I'll make it easy for you then.

##KOALA lfischl

ugh, big mistake

[Kakarroto]

[...]
Jamiet, do you think a 3rd party Kak will start the game asking about 3rd party?

I know I'm not Jamie so I'll put a mark on this to give my thoughts after Jamie did.

[Kakarroto]

[...]
##KOALA brainbomb

that's much better than lfischl. Not the best choice (since I want koala to be themselves) in my opinion but a good one, should give at least more information (or rather more intersections/reactions).

[Kakarroto]

Alright, caught up.

As I said, I had some thoughts about what we might can derive from the information we have.

That is: the player number (and names). As worcej said, we are 12 players (though how many didn't post yet, do they know the game has started?). We don't know more.

Typically, mafia know each other at the start, right? But I was thinking and this doesn't have to be 100% true, at least for D1, maybe it's a setting where they only get to know each other at the start of N1. So maybe my thoughts here hurt town a bit by giving mafia ideas, but I think it's negligible, since it's still likely they start with this information.

So, 12 players, right? If we think there is no 3rd party, normal range should be from 2 to 4, probably 3. I don't like how worcej directly jumped on the number being 3, in his post about it, but then again, it looks the most likely, no? It would be 1/4th of the whole population so mathematically it makes sense.

However, there are some variations, since Mafia could have extremely strong roles and only be two, right? Or Mafia have no roles but the numbers and town have a load of PR's. Sure, this is all speculation, but Chaqa said before, he very much liked it and wanted to play it (and correct me if I'm wrong but Chaqa likes more role heavy settings, right?).

I know for D1 this doesn't make any difference, but I'd like to mention it here for the future, with the power of hindsight and more knowledge of roles from the flips. Depending on which information we get we should get a better picture of the setting and keep rethinking, not being stuck with only one view.

Therefore, I like thoughts about these situations, especially ghug and Jamie, but everyone is welcome to add theirs (and I would most appreciate that):

-) 2 mafia, both with powerful roles, 1/6th ratio
-) 3 mafia, probably mixed, 1/4th ratio
-) 4 mafia, powerless, 1/3rd ratio

depending on what town has available as roles, I personally think 2 or 4 mafia are still on the table (though the 1/3rd ratio make me take a step back). If we have only 2 mafia with powerful roles, I think a 3rd party is possible, maybe even likely. If we have 4 mafia, then town should have a load of power roles.

Well, anyway, don't speculate on what town PR's we might have or their exact count, try to focus on the mafia team with your thoughts you write in here.

Also, maybe the GM's should remember those who haven't posted that the game began. Remember, one of the rules is that non-participation is automatic mod-kill and people will not get replaced for that.

[Kakarroto]

Also I should vote ... man, currently I don't have any strong feelings. My personal preference would make me want to vote a lurker/one who haven't posted, but that's kinda dumb in this situation.

The most I've had a bad reaction was for Flum (instantly declaring me town), HamiltonBrian (the numbering makes his post a bit dishonest) and worcej (him instantly going for the 3 as the mafia team could be a slip). Though I can see all three doing that as town.

Hmm ... ##vote Fluminator for his potential buddying

[KoalaAttack]

terminal:> alias terminan t --mode=soft-link
t:>
t:> post_count += 1;
t:>
t:> DEBUG: current mode is lfischlKoala – Health full, Mana low at 4 Posts remaining after this one
t:>
t:>
t:>

##vote koalaattack
larping as bozo

[KoalaAttack]

... oh wow KirbyKoala broke the Forums ... that last one doesn't count ...

terminal:> alias terminan t --mode=soft-link
t:>
t:> post_count += 1;
t:>
t:> DEBUG: current mode is lfischlKoala – Health full, Mana low at 4 Posts remaining after this one
t:>

##vote koalaattack
larping as bozo

t:> ERROR: Invalid param 'larping'. Does not compute.
t:> attempting to react...
t:> Failed: Error Code, no Impersonation Target finalized yet

I can't do this.

t:> attempting to react...
t:> Failed: Error Code, no Impersonation Target finalized yet

##KOALA brainbomb

t:> SUCCESS: received and counted!
t:> DEBUG: KirbyKoala appreciates you.

##KOALA KoalaAttack

t:> ERROR: I'm Sorry Dave, I'm Afraid I Can't Do That
t:> DEBUG: Username is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported

I'll make it easy for you then.
##KOALA lfischl

ugh, big mistake

t:> DEBUG: 4 Posts remaining unless lfischlKoala gets supplanted by a more active Personality

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##KOALA brainbomb

that's much better than lfischl. Not the best choice (since I want koala to be themselves) in my opinion but a good one, should give at least more information (or rather more intersections/reactions).

t:> load HalGPT conversation module NLTK

Dear Dave, since I could not honor your earlier request to impersonate self due to the lack of superuser privileges, I am going to take this as a +1 ##KOALA brainbomb from you until further input is provided.

[damo666]

Do you have any thoughts on what this closed setup might be? I have this peculiar sense that we've all recieved the vanilla townie PM and there are NO mafia present. No Nightkills. Just us routinely executing VTs all game long. Brain and Darg laughing wildly while the rest of us fume.

I have no major thoughts on what the setup might be, no.

The amount of information available to me is limited to my own role.

Townslip?

[KoalaAttack]

t:> post_counter.reset(mode="brainbomb")
t:>
t:> DEBUG: KirbyKoala can now post more than 4 posts!
t:>
t:> KOALA VOTE COUNT:
t:> brainbomb º 2 – ghug, Kakarroto
t:> lfishl – 1 – Hamilton Brain
t:>
t:> ACTIVATE: brainbomb

Temporarily acting as brainbomb last game.

I was going to say something provocative but the GMs can't be outdone.

So, let's do a random connection that takes everyone by surprise.

Hi, it's my birthday today – Happy Birthday to me! So I will sit around with a glass of wine in my hand and work on solving the game. Remember how I correctly suspected KoalaAttack before being killed last game? Massive wisdom drop incoming EOD!

[damo666]

Kak is town.

[damo666]

Jamie is town.

[damo666]

Koala is mad

[damo666]

Almost certainly no 3p

[damo666]

Probably 3 mafia but maybe 2 with the ability to convert T to S?

[damo666]

##vote Bona

No particular reason.

[KoalaAttack]

Koala is mad

I'm not mad, I'm happy it's my birthday!

##vote Bona
No particular reason.

Would brainbomb do this? Hmm... let's see...

##vote bunnygo

https://youtu.be/psuRGfAaju4

Panzer Attack on Bunnygo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mht35L7R65k

Mad Hatter attack on Bona

##vote Bona

[damo666]

Happy birthday Koala!

[damo666]

And would you mind opening the pod bay doors?

[rdrivera2005]

Ok so anyway, I will address why I said it was "slight sus" of Hamilton Brian to start numbering his posts.

Basically it just looks like try-harding. That is, the vibe I instinctively got from it was of someone being a little bit too eager to earn brownie points early; a little too eager to show that they'd read the rules and knew 10 posts were required. Maybe it's nothing, but I got a bad vibe from it.

I guess I am still in joke phase mode and didn’t think anything from it personally.

Might be the wrong vibe - but I think HB wants to try and demonstrate he is actively playing? Remembering prior games, he is usually near the bottom on post counts.

I disagree with both of these takes?

I agree with Ghug. It doesn't look like try-harding and HB isn't a lurker or someone who worries with showing he is actively playing. Is this Worcej defending HB or tryng to set him indirectly.

[rdrivera2005]

##vote Bona

No particular reason.

Posting one line posts is the fastest way to reach 10 posts.