MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3881 Post by Chaqa » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:05 am

BK3K wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:10 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:06 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:01 am


Hammering D5 give us less information going into D6, not more.
Any theories made without Neon’s alignment are void because we wouldn’t even know if we’re still looking for one mafia or two.

It’s so wasteful to people’s time
The question is if cost benefit analysis.

If we flip neon and neon is town, does that give us enough info to win?
If she is scum, does that give us enough info to win?

Idk the answer to either of these.

I do know, that while there is a chance neon is town, get actual leave a really sour taste in my mouth. Basing off vibes, Neon is very fishy indeed. I'm keeping my vote there
Personally I will not vote for anyone except Neon until Neon is gone.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3882 Post by Chaqa » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:07 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:22 am
I can see Neon claiming doctor as VT, I don't think we can afford to policy vote her. I think everyone should review PE's interaction with her and see if they think they were coordinating to identify the doctor.
I don't understand how you think.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3883 Post by BK3K » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:07 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:05 am
BK3K wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:10 am
Chaqa wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:06 am


Any theories made without Neon’s alignment are void because we wouldn’t even know if we’re still looking for one mafia or two.

It’s so wasteful to people’s time
The question is if cost benefit analysis.

If we flip neon and neon is town, does that give us enough info to win?
If she is scum, does that give us enough info to win?

Idk the answer to either of these.

I do know, that while there is a chance neon is town, get actual leave a really sour taste in my mouth. Basing off vibes, Neon is very fishy indeed. I'm keeping my vote there
Personally I will not vote for anyone except Neon until Neon is gone.
Yeah, i feel similarly. I can't second guess. I almost did with Eden and very glad i stuck there in the end

I'm staying on Neon

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3884 Post by Chaqa » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:08 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:38 am
and also jamie and flum doing their things
Arguably it's better for town they weren't around.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3885 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:09 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:39 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:24 pm
Princess Neon wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:09 pm



I'd bet money it's at most 1
If the implication of that is what I think it is I like the cut of your jib.
Awe it messed up this

*wink*

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3886 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:08 am
Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:38 am
and also jamie and flum doing their things
Arguably it's better for town they weren't around.
maybe they wouldn't have been productive

but cop and a vig are in theory a big boost for town

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3887 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:49 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am
I can’t actually explain Fluminator dying N1 except that swordsNeon is Doc and swordsman just didn’t submit an order or self-protected and wasn’t aware of who the Vig was

Even a droopy eyed armless child who isn’t bi-WINNING could have figured out you save Flum

And anybody who would unironically try to level the mafia there should retire
Princess Neon wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:06 am
President Eden wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:04 am
Neon, who did swordsman try to save N1?
They afkd their night action
This could be coordination to get the doctor to CC, or it could be PE trying to determine if Neon was the real doctor.
It's option 2

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3888 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:11 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:56 pm
Please no one else hammer Neon yet. Neon fake claiming doctor would not be the most anti-town thing we have seen this game from town.
I mean it's not even anti town so

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3889 Post by BK3K » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:12 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:49 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am
I can’t actually explain Fluminator dying N1 except that swordsNeon is Doc and swordsman just didn’t submit an order or self-protected and wasn’t aware of who the Vig was

Even a droopy eyed armless child who isn’t bi-WINNING could have figured out you save Flum

And anybody who would unironically try to level the mafia there should retire
Princess Neon wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:06 am


They afkd their night action
This could be coordination to get the doctor to CC, or it could be PE trying to determine if Neon was the real doctor.
It's option 2
This post is a nothing burger

Yum

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3890 Post by BK3K » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:13 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:11 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:56 pm
Please no one else hammer Neon yet. Neon fake claiming doctor would not be the most anti-town thing we have seen this game from town.
I mean it's not even anti town so
What are the other contenders?

Chaqa claiming scum repeatedly (if chaqa is town)?

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3891 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:14 am

BK3K wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:10 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:50 pm
BK3K wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:40 pm


As in you're mafia and your partner isn't in the list?

I doubt that's what you're saying, but I'm confused
She is saying you are one of the mafia and therefore there could only be one other in your list.
Neon is pretty arrogant for someone with bad reads
This is hilarious kind of because so far the only part of my solve that's even been remotely flipped is that I said there's one in Chaqa and Eden but I was hard TRing Eden

So like. I was wrong on the person but right on the theory.

Outside of that I was correct that Brain was telling the truth and game claimed to provide doc cover since people were trying to conspiracy theory Brain as lying.

And else wise. You have exactly 0 idea how right my reads are.

So lol to you and your factually incorrect comment frankly.

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#3892 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:15 am

Also my comment was not some tongue in cheek way of saying your scum. I legit just think your PoE is game losing and has at most 1 wolf

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3893 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:16 am

Chaqa wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:16 am
Just to make it clear, if Neon wasn’t mafia they would have killed her last night. There’s no word mafia kills rivera instead, especially over Bozo, who was way more townread
This is a pretty awful take if you just like read the game. RDR was blatantly obvious doc.

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#3894 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:18 am

KoalaAttack wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:17 am
Maybe folks will say "conspiracy theories" again... but I have to share this thought, and then the rest of you can tell me it's crazy and I'll go away:

Princess Neon wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:48 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:17 pm
I was concerned that was the reason rdrivera was suspecting Neon's claim.

While the obvious conclusion is that the mafia were willing to trade Neon for
identifying the doctor, I think we should wait to see if Neon comes back before hammering.
Lmao maybe if RDR didn't make it so obvious that they were the real doctor...

I fake claimed to provide cover for the doctor because A. I'm a slot that is inherently going to get miskilled just because this site has a bias against subs

B. I believed (correctly mind you) that Brainbomb was not lying about being saved and that it would be an easy fake claim to make.

C. I could (hopefully) get mafia to miskill me and provide cover for the real doctor.

I'm town and killing me here is actually pretty bad because Eden was clearly fishing to find out if I was the real doc or not and if I'm wolf they don't need to fish like that. RDR played into the hands of the wolfs by continuing to say how I'm a wolf all phase.

I also think Bozo is a wolf but it's unlikely any one will listen to me so we can start here

##VOTE lfischl

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bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:56 pm
Please no one else hammer Neon yet. Neon fake claiming doctor would not be the most anti-town thing we have seen this game from town.

So... Princess Neon thinks that Bozo is Mafia, but "noone will listen" so doesn't vote for them. Bozo is really going at it arguing with Princess Neon about the role claim, but doesn't vote for Princess and then asks folks not to hammer.

Suspicious?
When I flip town will you proceed to drop this entire thought and forget about Bozo ignoring the fact that wolf Bozo could just be TMIing me town here and trying to gain cred because they were patient with me and tried to give me space to talk when wolf Bozo just knows I'm gonna flip town here.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3895 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:20 am

bozotheclown wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:00 am
BK3K wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 1:24 am
BK3K wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:07 pm
I've got to think, this is all nutty

Chaqa, neon, Fisch, tfb

I think both scum are in there. Guaranteed at least one is

Let me think more
Chaqa, neon, and tfb are on here because i have my own reasons to suspect them. Fisch because it was Rivera's dying wish. What's the case against Fisch?
Besides the lurking, rdrivera did not like lfischl showing up at EOD and trying to save PE. I agree it is suspicious, but it seems almost too obvious.
Turns out... woofs do wolfy things... crazy take

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3896 Post by BK3K » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:22 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:14 am
BK3K wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 12:10 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:50 pm


She is saying you are one of the mafia and therefore there could only be one other in your list.
Neon is pretty arrogant for someone with bad reads
This is hilarious kind of because so far the only part of my solve that's even been remotely flipped is that I said there's one in Chaqa and Eden but I was hard TRing Eden

So like. I was wrong on the person but right on the theory.

Outside of that I was correct that Brain was telling the truth and game claimed to provide doc cover since people were trying to conspiracy theory Brain as lying.

And else wise. You have exactly 0 idea how right my reads are.

So lol to you and your factually incorrect comment frankly.
You do come across as arrogant, especially so after Rivera flipped. Your time is suddenly much more combative and "this is why I'm smart and this is why you're dumb". Idk, i notice a vibe shift in you

Re: brain, everyone knew he was telling the truth, you can't claim much credit there

Re: Eden, you were wrong

Re: me, you're wrong again. I know I'm the only one who can know this, but your wrong

I'm not trying to make a personal case here, just I'm very aware that your demeanor has shifted. Makes me think

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3897 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:23 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:49 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 4:32 am
I can’t actually explain Fluminator dying N1 except that swordsNeon is Doc and swordsman just didn’t submit an order or self-protected and wasn’t aware of who the Vig was

Even a droopy eyed armless child who isn’t bi-WINNING could have figured out you save Flum

And anybody who would unironically try to level the mafia there should retire
Princess Neon wrote:
Thu Feb 23, 2023 5:06 am


They afkd their night action
This could be coordination to get the doctor to CC, or it could be PE trying to determine if Neon was the real doctor.
It's option 2
in that world, i don't understand that if rdr was obviously doc, why did no one in scumchat point this out to eden (ie, he wouldn't need to determine if neon was doc)

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3898 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:24 am

Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:11 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:56 pm
Please no one else hammer Neon yet. Neon fake claiming doctor would not be the most anti-town thing we have seen this game from town.
I mean it's not even anti town so
3 out of 8 people have declared that they're not moving from you today

if you're town you've made a terrible move for no gain

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3899 Post by Bonatogether » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:24 am

BK3K wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:13 am
Princess Neon wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:11 am
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:56 pm
Please no one else hammer Neon yet. Neon fake claiming doctor would not be the most anti-town thing we have seen this game from town.
I mean it's not even anti town so
What are the other contenders?

Chaqa claiming scum repeatedly (if chaqa is town)?
damo's last day wasn't stellar

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#3900 Post by Princess Neon » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:24 am

Bonatogether wrote:
Sun Feb 26, 2023 2:17 am
Princess Neon wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:49 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Sat Feb 25, 2023 10:21 pm
hardclaims that are lies = death

especially when soft cced like that
Lmao this is really not a good way to play mafia
hardclaim means no take-backs and no bullshit
Turns out people lie.

Town and wolfs as it turns out.

See thing is. Your all gonna talk mad shit about me and blame me when you kill the obvious town player who provided cover for the doctor. That's cool.

But the question is. If RDR played along and hid his PR I would die and if I did I give RDR another day and a PoE slot gets cleared by the wolfs instead of a misexe

So take the level 0 thought of "lie = Mafia" and think about it deeper instead of speed hammering a town because you think there's only one way to play mafia

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