MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

the textbook is fake

how can you stagemanage a scumteam so closely?

[KoalaAttack]

And then this...

@Rivera and Bozo: you guys really think Eden is the most likely scum?

TBH if Eden is town this is like "DKing a claimed PR" level of silly.

Then would you vote TFB?

I was. I would.

##Vote TheFlyingBoat

Wait. Am I reading this right? So first Chaqa says Eden's wagon is terrible, starts a brand new lfischl one.... Then immediately turns around and partners with the very same lfischl to save Eden?

[Bonatogether]

Like if I'm mafia I always put no more than 2 on a run away town led wagon like BunnyGo

And I have my teammates sit outside the wagon but never stacked and I avoid killing off wagon unless I need to for PR.

It's text book and this wolf team is following it to the T.

a literal application of this is

1 scum in Bonatogether, BK3K, TheFlyingBoat, KoalaAttack, lfischl
1 scum in bozotheclown, rdrivera2005

which just doesn't read right to me

[Chaqa]

And then this...

@Rivera and Bozo: you guys really think Eden is the most likely scum?

Then would you vote TFB?

I was. I would.

##Vote TheFlyingBoat

Wait. Am I reading this right? So first Chaqa says Eden's wagon is terrible, starts a brand new lfischl one.... Then immediately turns around and partners with the very same lfischl to save Eden?

I was sure Eden was town.

[Bonatogether]

Like if I'm mafia I always put no more than 2 on a run away town led wagon like BunnyGo

And I have my teammates sit outside the wagon but never stacked and I avoid killing off wagon unless I need to for PR.

It's text book and this wolf team is following it to the T.

a literal application of this is

1 scum in Bonatogether, BK3K, TheFlyingBoat, KoalaAttack, lfischl
1 scum in bozotheclown, rdrivera2005

which just doesn't read right to me

and also that you and chaqa are town

[BK3K]

And then this...

@Rivera and Bozo: you guys really think Eden is the most likely scum?

Then would you vote TFB?

I was. I would.

##Vote TheFlyingBoat

Wait. Am I reading this right? So first Chaqa says Eden's wagon is terrible, starts a brand new lfischl one.... Then immediately turns around and partners with the very same lfischl to save Eden?

yeah a lot of this is really weird to me too

[KoalaAttack]

I just want to keep Eden alive

Why you are so sure about him? You are usually pretty bad on your town reads lately....

The wagon makes no sense to me so it smells funny
And he did make a deciding vote on ghug which is not like bussing a newbie or a lurker

Then would you vote TFB?

I am starting to consider voting lfishl, this kind of play is just unacceptable.

Trying not to get DKd is unacceptable?

My Summary:

Chaqa – Very Suspicious, seems to start a half-hearted attempt to save Eden followed by a realization that's not enough and upgrading to a full-throttle attempt

lfischl – Extra Next Level Suspicious, just appears outside of a Lurker Black Hole to save Eden

rdrivera – looks extremely Townie through-out the entire ordeal

[KoalaAttack]

Bozo, you or Rivera are the kingmakers here. What other wagons will you consider?

##Vote Eden
This is stupid but no ties

Naked shopping around for alternatives followed by way-to-late-vote to look good by preventing the tie. Suspicious more.

[BK3K]

Why you are so sure about him? You are usually pretty bad on your town reads lately....

The wagon makes no sense to me so it smells funny
And he did make a deciding vote on ghug which is not like bussing a newbie or a lurker

I am starting to consider voting lfishl, this kind of play is just unacceptable.

Trying not to get DKd is unacceptable?

My Summary:

Chaqa – Very Suspicious, seems to start a half-hearted attempt to save Eden followed by a realization that's not enough and upgrading to a full-throttle attempt

lfischl – Extra Next Level Suspicious, just appears outside of a Lurker Black Hole to save Eden

rdrivera – looks extremely Townie through-out the entire ordeal

koala, youre also in my strong town vibe pool. i feel like if youre scum, youre a great actor. and you seem to honest to be a good scum liar

[BK3K]

Bozo, you or Rivera are the kingmakers here. What other wagons will you consider?

##Vote Eden
This is stupid but no ties

Naked shopping around for alternatives followed by way-to-late-vote to look good by preventing the tie. Suspicious more.

he didn't even stop a tie. moved it from 4v3 to 5v3

[KoalaAttack]

Killing me or Eden is dumb ##vote lfischl

TFB has not at all measured up to his town games IMO

My mafia game was way better than this though. I’m just overwhelmed by work rn

TFB is probably the least suspicious of Chaqa & lfischl but also in the Suspicious mix.

[BK3K]

Like if I'm mafia I always put no more than 2 on a run away town led wagon like BunnyGo

And I have my teammates sit outside the wagon but never stacked and I avoid killing off wagon unless I need to for PR.

It's text book and this wolf team is following it to the T.

a literal application of this is

1 scum in Bonatogether, BK3K, TheFlyingBoat, KoalaAttack, lfischl
1 scum in bozotheclown, rdrivera2005

which just doesn't read right to me

where are these names coming from?

[KoalaAttack]

What are the odds at least 1 mafia was on that wagon

And are they higher or lower than the odds of one of Chaqa & lfischl & TFB attempting to shamelessly save Eden being Town?

(I'm not counting Chaqa's at-deadling "no ties" vote as being part of Eden's wagon)

[Bonatogether]

Like if I'm mafia I always put no more than 2 on a run away town led wagon like BunnyGo

And I have my teammates sit outside the wagon but never stacked and I avoid killing off wagon unless I need to for PR.

It's text book and this wolf team is following it to the T.

a literal application of this is

1 scum in Bonatogether, BK3K, TheFlyingBoat, KoalaAttack, lfischl
1 scum in bozotheclown, rdrivera2005

which just doesn't read right to me

where are these names coming from?

the ending d1 vote count

[KoalaAttack]

What are the odds at least 1 mafia was on that wagon

And are they higher or lower than the odds of one of Chaqa & lfischl & TFB attempting to shamelessly save Eden being Town?

(I'm not counting Chaqa's at-deadling "no ties" vote as being part of Eden's wagon)

Wait, there are only 2 Mafias left. Interesting. So at least one of Chaqa & lfischl & TFB was a true believer. Interesting.

[KoalaAttack]

Nice call switching back to PE, although I still suspect TFB. Now the question will be if you bussed PE.

No way that BK/Eden is bussing. Only possible busser is Chaqa but I don't believe it. All town on PE is what I think.

So say everyone on the PE wagon is town, that would leave myself, TFB, neon, and I'm going to count chaqa because he really only switched because of a tie. I'm not saying there has to be a scum on the eden wagon but I think there could be

It also leaves myself! Strange omission. I did recommend folks who didn't believe in Mafia-Chaqa to vote for President Eden, but I wasn't on PE wagon.

[KoalaAttack]

Yes, why didn't you vote for PE since you have been suspecting him?

I voted him D2 and would've switched off if I had been able to get on that day. I still believe the 2 remaining scum are chaqa and TFB, and if the eden wagon was all town that checks out with neons doc claim

PE was strongly defending Neon, and neon was moving in tandem with PE. Eden's logic on why Neon must be doc made sense to me, but many of you implied Neon could be lying as either town or scum.

PE also kept saying "CC or no balls" so he didn't fully believe Neon either.

Not sure what to conclude from all this, but it's interesting at least

Yeah... so here is the thing – President Eden seems to have very intentionally and purposefully obliterated brainbomb's advice to avoid discussing Neon's Doctor Claims. I am not sure what to make of this.

But I for one am going to Not Discuss Doctor Claims anymore – especially during the Night. Because in hindsight, I trust brainbomb's advice over President Eden's.

[KoalaAttack]

PE was strongly defending Neon, and neon was moving in tandem with PE. Eden's logic on why Neon must be doc made sense to me, but many of you implied Neon could be lying as either town or scum.

PE also kept saying "CC or no balls" so he didn't fully believe Neon either.

Not sure what to conclude from all this, but it's interesting at least

I mean if the doctor wasn't neon they would've CC'd by now, if neon is lying that leaves us 1 scum left

With the mafia having a RB, the real doctor (if not Neon) should stay hidden.

Bozo – the million dollar question is, would you normally expect lfischl to realize this on their own?

It feels like lfischl is trying to shop around for more Doctor-related info to me, but I have to admit that maybe I'm just Confirmation-Bias-reading into it at this point...

[Princess Neon]

Anyways. Eden flip clears Chaqa to me. But people don't often trust wagonomics. I do though.

Lfischl 100% looks maf.

I do not think Bozo or RDR should be being cleared from this but meh. It's possible.

Why? I feel the opposite. Can you explain?

There's zero reason to stack 2 on the day 1 CW.

I know I'm town. I know Bunny was town and now I know Eden was wolf. I think Chaqa is also town and they've been avoiding flipping anyone on the wagon because Eden was imo townier than Chaqa and my slot so it was easy for Eden to hide within the town and try to get them killed.

I always said Chaqa and Eden were a diff check I was just wrong on which one was town.

[Princess Neon]

the textbook is fake

how can you stagemanage a scumteam so closely?

Is honestly not that hard lol.