MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[bozotheclown]

The amazing thing is that we were able to successfully DK ghug and PE with at most (and probably exactly) 4 town votes.

[BK3K]

Boy it sure smells like fucking NERD in here

And this feels like an intentional provocation to try to resurrect the Cussing Out incident. Not cool, but would be a logical Mafia play. Also Suspicious.

i would never

##VOTE TheFlyingBoat

Eden was flailing at end. With the "I think we should tie" like Bona pointed out. You can read the last 90 minutes of the day, but a few things felt like he was panicking.

I kinda feel like this TFB vote is not a bus, but a "kill anyone but me" vote.

TFB is still sus, but not at the top of the list. I feel like this vote threw town vibes on Boatman

But i know nothing, fuck

[bozotheclown]

And this feels like an intentional provocation to try to resurrect the Cussing Out incident. Not cool, but would be a logical Mafia play. Also Suspicious.

i would never

##VOTE TheFlyingBoat

Eden was flailing at end. With the "I think we should tie" like Bona pointed out. You can read the last 90 minutes of the day, but a few things felt like he was panicking.

I kinda feel like this TFB vote is not a bus, but a "kill anyone but me" vote.

TFB is still sus, but not at the top of the list. I feel like this vote threw town vibes on Boatman

But i know nothing, fuck

I know you said you have not been able to read everything, but I have a number of posts explaining why I thought PE and TFB were potentially mafia together, including PE's general reluctance to vote for TFB before D4 EOD. However, I could be wrong.

[BK3K]

For the first time in the game, I don't feel completely lost. For the first time in a long time, I'm whipping out the laptop so I can actually write.

Looking at President Eden's Day 4 Votes:

• Open's the day with the first vote on Chaqa.
• When chaqa rose to 4, he switched to Bona to drop it to 3
• no fire caught there so he voted TFB, bringing two wagons tied at 3v3
• jumps to rivera from t-23 to t-7
• jumps back to TFB
• chaqa tries to start fisch wagon, and in desperation, PE follows
• fisch wagon goes nowhere (it is very late in the day) and hops back on TFB

I'm thinking he was hoping that enough people already had thrown out TFB as sus that it might work.

@bozo, i see your comment about them being a pair. I'll have research it. It may make sense. If Eden succeeded in killing TFB instead of himself either 1) TFB flips town and Eden looks like he fucked up, or 2) TFB flips scum and Eden looks like a hero. So maybe Boatman is scum, let me think

[BK3K]

For the first time in the game, I don't feel completely lost. For the first time in a long time, I'm whipping out the laptop so I can actually write.

Looking at President Eden's Day 4 Votes:

• Open's the day with the first vote on Chaqa.
• When chaqa rose to 4, he switched to Bona to drop it to 3
• no fire caught there so he voted TFB, bringing two wagons tied at 3v3
• jumps to rivera from t-23 to t-7
• jumps back to TFB
• chaqa tries to start fisch wagon, and in desperation, PE follows
• fisch wagon goes nowhere (it is very late in the day) and hops back on TFB

I'm thinking he was hoping that enough people already had thrown out TFB as sus that it might work.

@bozo, i see your comment about them being a pair. I'll have research it. It may make sense. If Eden succeeded in killing TFB instead of himself either 1) TFB flips town and Eden looks like he fucked up, or 2) TFB flips scum and Eden looks like a hero. So maybe Boatman is scum, let me think

All this looks bad for Chaqa IMO. But the WIFOM is tough. Plus have to remember who accused whom and when

[Bonatogether]

TFB has not at all measured up to his town games IMO

agree that he's not been firing on all cylinders

[Bonatogether]

Ok. This was close.

I think lfischl is just scum, the way he appeared just to try to save Eden is pretty obvious.

yeah lfischl comes off pretty terribly there

[Bonatogether]

Nice call switching back to PE, although I still suspect TFB. Now the question will be if you bussed PE.

No way that BK/Eden is bussing. Only possible busser is Chaqa but I don't believe it. All town on PE is what I think.

So say everyone on the PE wagon is town, that would leave myself, TFB, neon, and I'm going to count chaqa because he really only switched because of a tie. I'm not saying there has to be a scum on the eden wagon but I think there could be

who do you finger as possible scum on eden? your poe midway through d2 was chaqa, rd, bishkek, and boat man, of whom only bishkek voted eden, as per your standard

also what happened to koalers?

[KoalaAttack]

Random Facts from a GM:
Normally a president being killed isn’t a good thing. But then, sometimes it is.

PRESIDENT EDEN HAS DIED! He was a MAFIA GOON.

Night has begun. You may now post.

Woohoo! Great job everyone!!

This is a great flip – President Eden posted a metric ton of stuff that should be informative.

I am not caught up on all the posts and activity yet so far – just went straight to the EOD summary ... so I will go back and actually properly re-read the posts and see what happened with all the votes.

Off the top of my head before reading the rest – Bozo, I have been giving some thought to the Chaqa / lfischl whom I considered a Pairing but you made a good case for an Unpairing instead. Could you please share whether President Eden now being a confirmed Mafia affects that in your mind? I'll also give it some thought.

Also – just watching what brainbomb and Bozo did last night, I'm also thinking it's smart to share things towards the end of the Night, so remaining Mafia can't see what we are thinking. Is that right?

[BK3K]

Random Facts from a GM:
Normally a president being killed isn’t a good thing. But then, sometimes it is.

PRESIDENT EDEN HAS DIED! He was a MAFIA GOON.

Night has begun. You may now post.

Woohoo! Great job everyone!!

This is a great flip – President Eden posted a metric ton of stuff that should be informative.

I am not caught up on all the posts and activity yet so far – just went straight to the EOD summary ... so I will go back and actually properly re-read the posts and see what happened with all the votes.

Off the top of my head before reading the rest – Bozo, I have been giving some thought to the Chaqa / lfischl whom I considered a Pairing but you made a good case for an Unpairing instead. Could you please share whether President Eden now being a confirmed Mafia affects that in your mind? I'll also give it some thought.

Also – just watching what brainbomb and Bozo did last night, I'm also thinking it's smart to share things towards the end of the Night, so remaining Mafia can't see what we are thinking. Is that right?

unless Neon has a doctor charge to use on herself, she's far and away the most likely night target already, no?

[Bonatogether]

Random Facts from a GM:
Normally a president being killed isn’t a good thing. But then, sometimes it is.

PRESIDENT EDEN HAS DIED! He was a MAFIA GOON.

Night has begun. You may now post.

Woohoo! Great job everyone!!

This is a great flip – President Eden posted a metric ton of stuff that should be informative.

I am not caught up on all the posts and activity yet so far – just went straight to the EOD summary ... so I will go back and actually properly re-read the posts and see what happened with all the votes.

Off the top of my head before reading the rest – Bozo, I have been giving some thought to the Chaqa / lfischl whom I considered a Pairing but you made a good case for an Unpairing instead. Could you please share whether President Eden now being a confirmed Mafia affects that in your mind? I'll also give it some thought.

Also – just watching what brainbomb and Bozo did last night, I'm also thinking it's smart to share things towards the end of the Night, so remaining Mafia can't see what we are thinking. Is that right?

unless Neon has a doctor charge to use on herself, she's far and away the most likely night target already, no?

neon claimed they held last night, which means they can save anyone tonight, i believe

[BK3K]

Woohoo! Great job everyone!!

This is a great flip – President Eden posted a metric ton of stuff that should be informative.

I am not caught up on all the posts and activity yet so far – just went straight to the EOD summary ... so I will go back and actually properly re-read the posts and see what happened with all the votes.

Off the top of my head before reading the rest – Bozo, I have been giving some thought to the Chaqa / lfischl whom I considered a Pairing but you made a good case for an Unpairing instead. Could you please share whether President Eden now being a confirmed Mafia affects that in your mind? I'll also give it some thought.

Also – just watching what brainbomb and Bozo did last night, I'm also thinking it's smart to share things towards the end of the Night, so remaining Mafia can't see what we are thinking. Is that right?

unless Neon has a doctor charge to use on herself, she's far and away the most likely night target already, no?

neon claimed they held last night, which means they can save anyone tonight, i believe

they have unlimited RB though?

[Bonatogether]

unless Neon has a doctor charge to use on herself, she's far and away the most likely night target already, no?

neon claimed they held last night, which means they can save anyone tonight, i believe

they have unlimited RB though?

oh true

[Princess Neon]

PE was strongly defending Neon, and neon was moving in tandem with PE. Eden's logic on why Neon must be doc made sense to me, but many of you implied Neon could be lying as either town or scum.

PE also kept saying "CC or no balls" so he didn't fully believe Neon either.

Not sure what to conclude from all this, but it's interesting at least

I mean if the doctor wasn't neon they would've CC'd by now, if neon is lying that leaves us 1 scum left

With the mafia having a RB, the real doctor (if not Neon) should stay hidden.

I am the real doctor. There is no hiding.

[Princess Neon]

Woohoo! Great job everyone!!

This is a great flip – President Eden posted a metric ton of stuff that should be informative.

I am not caught up on all the posts and activity yet so far – just went straight to the EOD summary ... so I will go back and actually properly re-read the posts and see what happened with all the votes.

Off the top of my head before reading the rest – Bozo, I have been giving some thought to the Chaqa / lfischl whom I considered a Pairing but you made a good case for an Unpairing instead. Could you please share whether President Eden now being a confirmed Mafia affects that in your mind? I'll also give it some thought.

Also – just watching what brainbomb and Bozo did last night, I'm also thinking it's smart to share things towards the end of the Night, so remaining Mafia can't see what we are thinking. Is that right?

unless Neon has a doctor charge to use on herself, she's far and away the most likely night target already, no?

neon claimed they held last night, which means they can save anyone tonight, i believe

100% true

[KoalaAttack]

I am reading folks' posts side-by-side with the VCA timestamps.

The Eden wagon is absolutely bonkers and should not be a thing.
You guys would be much better served voting me out.

I'll fall on my sword for you bruv

##Vote Lfischl
Time to be the change I want to see

Do I even need to say "Ridiculously Suspicious" for these?

"I think Eden wagon is terrible, but here let me start a new wagon that's nowhere near the contention to be a realistic counter at this point"

[Princess Neon]

Anyways. Eden flip clears Chaqa to me. But people don't often trust wagonomics. I do though.

Lfischl 100% looks maf.

I do not think Bozo or RDR should be being cleared from this but meh. It's possible.

[Princess Neon]

Like if I'm mafia I always put no more than 2 on a run away town led wagon like BunnyGo

And I have my teammates sit outside the wagon but never stacked and I avoid killing off wagon unless I need to for PR.

It's text book and this wolf team is following it to the T.

[BK3K]

Anyways. Eden flip clears Chaqa to me. But people don't often trust wagonomics. I do though.

Lfischl 100% looks maf.

I do not think Bozo or RDR should be being cleared from this but meh. It's possible.

Why? I feel the opposite. Can you explain?

[BK3K]

Like if I'm mafia I always put no more than 2 on a run away town led wagon like BunnyGo

And I have my teammates sit outside the wagon but never stacked and I avoid killing off wagon unless I need to for PR.

It's text book and this wolf team is following it to the T.

noted. I never read the textbook so idk