MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

Giving Neon the benefit of fthe doubt that it's not a stupid scumslip this would make the likeliest team
TFB Eden and the either Bona or fish.

It still indicates TFB as the obvious vote.

[Princess Neon]

Why? Explain me in your own words why Bozo's idea is bad?

Okay so what you do is. You take what Eden said right. Dumb it down about 50% make it sound really disjointed like someone's thoughts and words aren't adding up.

That's my answer.

Alternatively you just read what Eden said since it's the better explained smarter sounding version of what I would say. Thus +1.

Well, welcome to my scumpool for sheeping Eden, agreeing Damo must die and voting Chaqa.

This might be the worst rationale to add someone to a scum pool I've ever seen in a mafia game

[Princess Neon]

Why can't they be town town?

It is extremely statistically unlikely that the CW to the D1 run away wagon in a 4 wolf set up doesn't have at least 1 wolf on it.

I know I'm town. Ergo one in Chaqa Eden which is like almost a guarantee by general mafia strategy.

Interesting. Given Eden's dissing of Bozo's plan accusing him of being scum when his vote makes him 95%+ town maybe Eden is scum and got caught in a bus. Hmmm.

A possibility indeed. I feel like Chaqa has been wolfier in what I've actually read but I'm missing a lot of info so like someone with more info would be smarter than me lol

[Princess Neon]

@lfischl please simply post either

"I know brain to be a liar"

or

"I do not know brain to be a liar"

I know brain to not be lying. *anime sip emoji*

I'm not sure if this is scum cockiness, stupid town play or clever misdirectional townplay.

*anime sip*

I'm playing chicken with the mafia team

Either I'm lying town or I've subbed into the doc slot and saved someone the only night I've been active.

I'm now taking bets on which one is true.

[damo666]

I know brain to not be lying. *anime sip emoji*

I'm not sure if this is scum cockiness, stupid town play or clever misdirectional townplay.

*anime sip*

I'm playing chicken with the mafia team

Either I'm lying town or I've subbed into the doc slot and saved someone the only night I've been active.

I'm now taking bets on which one is true.

I was hoping as much.

[damo666]

Giving Neon the benefit of fthe doubt that it's not a stupid scumslip this would make the likeliest team
TFB Eden and the either Bona or fish.

It still indicates TFB as the obvious vote.

BK and Koala were also off the ghug wagon. Koala screams town. Add BK to the mix.

Looking at Eden's vote again it seems a very unlikely bus given the timing. So if Neon is right perhaps I've been wrong about Chaqa all along.

TFB, Chaqa, plus one of Bona, fish, BK3.

Still makes TFB the optimal vote.

[bozotheclown]

Why would mafia roleblock when it creates a clear?

Obviously RBing the NK is standard mafia play there.

But it's not a standard RB is it?

What is different about it, and why would RBing the NK not be the best option, since a save would already be town clearing?

[damo666]

Obviously RBing the NK is standard mafia play there.

But it's not a standard RB is it?

What is different about it, and why would RBing the NK not be the best option, since a save would already be town clearing?

It's different because it generates a message regardless of success. Your point is right though, using a RB against the NK risks nothing. Any other use does.

[bozotheclown]

if damo is scum, then he just took the bottom out on his wagon

ghug did not need to do anything to protect damo other than not vote for him.
I think ghug voted for BunnyGo despite knowing it would look suspicious because he knew it would draw one vote away from TFB and one vote away from damo, making EOD you vs. BunnyGo.

how is this a response

in any case, how does ghug know that in that detail on the spot?

Fluminator and brainbomb had been previously voting for BunnyGo and had been suspicious of him, ghug could have reasonable expected them to move to BunnyGo, which they both did within 2 minutes. Even if he was not counting on them specifically, ghug starting a new wagon on someone other than his top scum reads indicates he was trying to protect someone, most likely TFB and/or damo. However, if it was just damo, it did not seem necessary. The other possibility is that he was protecting you after bussing you off and on, but that does not seem as likely to me as ghug protecting TFB, because in that case ghug could have voted for TFB, who he was supposedly scum reading.

[bozotheclown]

But it's not a standard RB is it?

What is different about it, and why would RBing the NK not be the best option, since a save would already be town clearing?

It's different because it generates a message regardless of success. Your point is right though, using a RB against the NK risks nothing. Any other use does.

I think that has been more common than the alternative in games here, which is why the mafia typically uses the RB on the NK when there is a doctor.

[damo666]

Message to town people voting me:-

You are in bad company, either all 3 scum are on me or 2 scum with fish as #3.

Look at those not voting me. All town.

[damo666]

What is different about it, and why would RBing the NK not be the best option, since a save would already be town clearing?

It's different because it generates a message regardless of success. Your point is right though, using a RB against the NK risks nothing. Any other use does.

I think that has been more common than the alternative in games here, which is why the mafia typically uses the RB on the NK when there is a doctor.

OK

[bozotheclown]

I'm gonna be honest I can only read into vote spew right now

I think Eden is infinitely townier since I've joined this game than Chaqa and I like how they've approached me here today.

I think Eden is just town so I think Chaqa is always mafia.

I know you have not caught up on the current game state, but PE is very capable of saying the right things as mafia.

Can you please explain why you are confident one and only one of PE and Chaqa is mafia?

The ending vote counts indicates they are never W/W

Specifically D1

What if D1, Chaqa had the choice of joining PE on Bonatogether's wagon or joining his other 2 mafia teammates on BunnyGo, who was about to flip town?

[Princess Neon]

I'm not sure if this is scum cockiness, stupid town play or clever misdirectional townplay.

*anime sip*

I'm playing chicken with the mafia team

Either I'm lying town or I've subbed into the doc slot and saved someone the only night I've been active.

I'm now taking bets on which one is true.

I was hoping as much.

In fact I'll go as far as to hard claim. Never rescind. I healed brain last night.

Balls in your court mafia. Can't kill me I'm a perpetually poe slot. But what if I'm telling the truth.

[Princess Neon]

I know you have not caught up on the current game state, but PE is very capable of saying the right things as mafia.

Can you please explain why you are confident one and only one of PE and Chaqa is mafia?

The ending vote counts indicates they are never W/W

Specifically D1

What if D1, Chaqa had the choice of joining PE on Bonatogether's wagon or joining his other 2 mafia teammates on BunnyGo, who was about to flip town?

It's unlikely a mafia team would put themself in a position where they have to stack on two competing wagons day 1 when one is so universally scum read as to accumulate 9 votes. I think there's 1 on the CW and 1 in the people on neither wagon with 2 on BG.

[Princess Neon]

Which from my pov also means 1 in Bozo and RDR.

Their behavior today screams to me that one is a wolf anyways but I digress.

[Princess Neon]

I also think Bona and TFB are both town

Especially if Damo is a wolf but I'm starting to think that's just not true.

[bozotheclown]

+1

Why? Explain me in your own words why Bozo's idea is bad?

Okay so what you do is. You take what Eden said right. Dumb it down about 50% make it sound really disjointed like someone's thoughts and words aren't adding up.

That's my answer.

Alternatively you just read what Eden said since it's the better explained smarter sounding version of what I would say. Thus +1.

How is mis-killing D3 and DKing damo D4 any worse than DKing damo D3 and mis-killing D4?

Do you agree with PE that damo is obviously mafia, yet is also a question that must be resolved today?

If damo is mafia, the other 2 mafia are very likely voting for him to make sure they get their credit for bussing him, or if damo is town, the mafia see him as an easy mis-kill. Either way, I don't think they prefer to wait another day.

[bozotheclown]

I also think Bona and TFB are both town

Especially if Damo is a wolf but I'm starting to think that's just not true.

Why do you think Bonatogether and TFB are town?

[Chaqa]

Now what are the odds I roll mafia 3 games in a row

Okay this is getting to be a bit much we should probably just kill him now

Remind me why he was locktown again?

Okay, you definitely did not understand my amogus theory post earlier lol