MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

We should make today a hammer day regardless of how it's gonna go.

man does not actually hammer

sad!

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[brainbomb]

so my joke was about yoda
and the jedi council

I was not referring to the mafia council in a manner which implies im targeting them or their leadership.

I was on said council and I was just making a star wars joke because someone said I was being like yoda

[brainbomb]

the council has a purpose and stuff. nothing personal

[President Eden]

oh

I thought you were referring to the fact that ghug was mafia and Chaqa is likely to be one too

My fellow Councilors have been sus this game

[brainbomb]

oh

I thought you were referring to the fact that ghug was mafia and Chaqa is likely to be one too

My fellow Councilors have been sus this game

nope. not at all actually. I think based on the new rules you guys made invoking the council and putting you in awkward positions is not allowed

[Princess Neon]

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[KoalaAttack]

I thought more info is always good for Townies? And hitting END is therefore bad because we lose the opportunity for more info!

Especially while we have a potential Mafia lfischl Lurking and Princess who inherited another potential Mafia Super-Lurker open position who stand to benefit from it?

Is that Suspicious?

Or am I missing something / not understanding the point of hammers?

[President Eden]

I thought more info is always good for Townies? And hitting END is therefore bad because we lose the opportunity for more info!

Especially while we have a potential Mafia lfischl Lurking and Princess who inherited another potential Mafia Super-Lurker open position who stand to benefit from it?

Is that Suspicious?

Or am I missing something / not understanding the point of hammers?

the correct play from a technical/execution standpoint is 100% not to hammer, but it assumes that the town will not get bogged down with apathy and will utilize said time

in practice, when the conclusion of a day is clearly foregone like this, towns often do get apathetic because we have lives outside the game

so we'll often hammer just to get it over with and confirm the existing theory and then move forward with the flip info

[KoalaAttack]

I thought more info is always good for Townies? And hitting END is therefore bad because we lose the opportunity for more info!

Especially while we have a potential Mafia lfischl Lurking and Princess who inherited another potential Mafia Super-Lurker open position who stand to benefit from it?

Is that Suspicious?

Or am I missing something / not understanding the point of hammers?

the correct play from a technical/execution standpoint is 100% not to hammer, but it assumes that the town will not get bogged down with apathy and will utilize said time

in practice, when the conclusion of a day is clearly foregone like this, towns often do get apathetic because we have lives outside the game

so we'll often hammer just to get it over with and confirm the existing theory and then move forward with the flip info

Thank you – well then tell you what, I'll vote for END once I see a couple folks from my Townie end of the spectrum do so. Don't want to follow my primary suspects!

[brainbomb]

were obviously not really going to hammer. why in the world would we be hammering?

[brainbomb]

I have research id like to do.

[President Eden]

were obviously not really going to hammer. why in the world would we be hammering?

boredom

i definitely thought about it, but decided that there's no real need

[Chaqa]

were obviously not really going to hammer. why in the world would we be hammering?

Because regardless, if Damo or I are to be the kill today, I'd rather get it done with or get the new info to make even better analysis.

[KoalaAttack]

In my head, I see the spectrum of Mafia-to-Town suspects lined up on a spectrum from Super-Mafia on the left to Super-Town on the right.

Lurkers like lfischl and Swordsman sit on there.

With the passage of time, and absence of posts from lfischl & now Princess, they gradually move to the left Mafia-wards. With every post they make, they move a bit to the right Town-wards.

And yes I know most people have lives and aren't just writing code the entire weekend like I am. But this is why the phases are 2 day long, right?

[Princess Neon]

Because hammer good hammer based

[brainbomb]

were obviously not really going to hammer. why in the world would we be hammering?

Because regardless, if Damo or I are to be the kill today, I'd rather get it done with or get the new info to make even better analysis.

or make a case on someone as to why it isnt you
or isnt damo

is that just not even possible for you?

[KoalaAttack]

It would be especially convenient for a Mafia Princess (nothing personal, pure situational analysis).

Think about it: you inherit a Mafia open position with a heavy suspicion for Lurking attached to it. Normally you'd be under pressure to rectify Swordsman's Super-Lurking by posting a ton. But hey, if we just skip the day, it's like a get-out-of-jail-free card.

[brainbomb]

72 hours ago we were losing badly, failing miserably and totally lost as to what to do.

we should not be in a hurry to end up back in that scenario

[KoalaAttack]

In my head, I see the spectrum of Mafia-to-Town suspects lined up on a spectrum from Super-Mafia on the left to Super-Town on the right.

Lurkers like lfischl and Swordsman sit on there.

With the passage of time, and absence of posts from lfischl & now Princess, they gradually move to the left Mafia-wards. With every post of-substance-not-spam they make, they move a bit to the right Town-wards.

And yes I know most people have lives and aren't just writing code the entire weekend like I am. But this is why the phases are 2 day long, right?

Sorry important correction in red above :)

[President Eden]

It would be especially convenient for a Mafia Princess (nothing personal, pure situational analysis).

Think about it: you inherit a Mafia open position with a heavy suspicion for Lurking attached to it. Normally you'd be under pressure to rectify Swordsman's Super-Lurking by posting a ton. But hey, if we just skip the day, it's like a get-out-of-jail-free card.

yea getting a feel for Neon's alignment is a big incentive for me not to hammer here

my first impression was favorable. but after I sat down this morning and looked over the voting records again, I realized all she actually did was apply some reasonable heuristics to the votes from the position that she's town, which just means that she does competent VCA and means nothing for her alignment

at the same time I can't fault her for looking at >2k posts before she arrived and going "yea lol no"

she's getting solved based on what she does going forward, so shortening the window in which she has to perform = bad