MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2361 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:24 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:00 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 8:56 pm


Why do you think it is a good bus candidate instead of just good scum hunting? I don't think I've ever been taken to KILO except in my galaxy brain play where I tried to throw the game as a VT to force a town win. People will ask questions about why I am still alive at the end of the game if I were to make it there after successfully "bussing" damo if we were both scum, so I don't think in a world in which I am scum I'll have accomplished anything that increases my win equity by doing so.
You were the top wagon when you started pushing damo, so it would have given you someone to vote for without risking a return vote, and potentially make damo look better of you were the D1 DK. However, it is the strong push you made for a damo DK on what I consider not much justification that I find questionable.
If I am scum with damo why do I bother protecting bona early when he is an easy mk because people find his posts weird and have terrible difficulty reading him? Like I could just railroad him, never let damo's name come up and take an easy D1 MK and then pick a new target during the night phase? It's not like buddying him would be useful or even work given he is often ignored even when right AND he's shown a propensity to scum read me in the past even when I say he isn't scum in prior games.The only explanation then that matches those assumptions surely is that me/damo/bona are a scum team, but surely that is absurd prima facie.

As for the justification, it was phenomenal. It's an oddity that has a relatively low incidence rate and only occurs when scum. And despite my somewhat fun nature while presenting it, at its core it is a recognition of an attempt to manufacture fake reads and fit in via a consistent tell which is a good way to hunt scum.
I don't have enough information to know why, but pocketing is a possibility.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2362 Post by brainbomb » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:40 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:37 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:34 pm


Man, that's unfair. Bona had severe interest as recently as the beginning of the day, and we had an hour left and no consensus. Plenty of wagons emerge in that timeline, and I still see bona doing a fat load of nothing despite being here all day.
How can you possibly find Bona more sus than damo right now lol. This is wild.

##VOTE ghug

I don't think you believe anything you're saying right now
How can you possibly find me more sus than bona right now lol. This is wild.

Damo's played the game all day. Bona hasn't. You were on board with bona being scummy yesterday and nothing has changed. I still think he's a decent kill, but there's no reason bona shouldn't be on the block right now. Instead it's you and me, and I haven't even seen a reason for you yet.
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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2363 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:44 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:40 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:37 pm

How can you possibly find Bona more sus than damo right now lol. This is wild.

##VOTE ghug

I don't think you believe anything you're saying right now
How can you possibly find me more sus than bona right now lol. This is wild.

Damo's played the game all day. Bona hasn't. You were on board with bona being scummy yesterday and nothing has changed. I still think he's a decent kill, but there's no reason bona shouldn't be on the block right now. Instead it's you and me, and I haven't even seen a reason for you yet.
scale of 1-10 rate quality of ideas he has put out
Putting out quality ideas does not necessarily correlate with towniness. See: you.

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#2364 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:45 pm

Gotta go deal with the ticket agent again. ##VOTE damo

This is fine but the counterwagons both suck.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2365 Post by brainbomb » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:44 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:40 pm


How can you possibly find me more sus than bona right now lol. This is wild.

Damo's played the game all day. Bona hasn't. You were on board with bona being scummy yesterday and nothing has changed. I still think he's a decent kill, but there's no reason bona shouldn't be on the block right now. Instead it's you and me, and I haven't even seen a reason for you yet.
scale of 1-10 rate quality of ideas he has put out
Putting out quality ideas does not necessarily correlate with towniness. See: you.
okay so were gonna just go into insulting me as a substitute for answering the question
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#2366 Post by President Eden » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm

wow this EOD is kill

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#2367 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 pm
It is definitely plausible that we're making a strategic mistake by not shooting lurkers earlier. This spot is a weird one

But if damo and ghug are mafia... hell even if just one is, we still have time to shoot them, I'm pretty sure
Even if lfischl and swordsman are mafia, DKing them today would not provide much information, so I think they can wait.

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2368 Post by ghug » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm

brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:44 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm


scale of 1-10 rate quality of ideas he has put out
Putting out quality ideas does not necessarily correlate with towniness. See: you.
okay so were gonna just go into insulting me as a substitute for answering the question
I'm not saying he's put out quality ideas, I'm saying there's a lack of demonstrated desire to solve in Bona's case.

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#2369 Post by President Eden » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:47 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 pm
It is definitely plausible that we're making a strategic mistake by not shooting lurkers earlier. This spot is a weird one

But if damo and ghug are mafia... hell even if just one is, we still have time to shoot them, I'm pretty sure
Even if lfischl and swordsman are mafia, DKing them today would not provide much information, so I think they can wait.
It certainly doesn't provide info, but it's more about the fact that it appears we have to resolve them on the chopping block, and that we only have two miskills left.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% rather damo or ghug and am not starting a wagon on a lurker right now. I do vaguely worry that we look back in a couple days and go "shit, we really should have dealt with this by now"

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#2370 Post by brainbomb » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:48 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:44 pm


Putting out quality ideas does not necessarily correlate with towniness. See: you.
okay so were gonna just go into insulting me as a substitute for answering the question
I'm not saying he's put out quality ideas, I'm saying there's a lack of demonstrated desire to solve in Bona's case.
is bona the only viable scum youve seen today
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#2371 Post by damo666 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:48 pm

ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:44 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:40 pm


How can you possibly find me more sus than bona right now lol. This is wild.

Damo's played the game all day. Bona hasn't. You were on board with bona being scummy yesterday and nothing has changed. I still think he's a decent kill, but there's no reason bona shouldn't be on the block right now. Instead it's you and me, and I haven't even seen a reason for you yet.
scale of 1-10 rate quality of ideas he has put out
Putting out quality ideas does not necessarily correlate with towniness. See: you.
That would be funny if brain were town.

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#2372 Post by rdrivera2005 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:49 pm

I am walking the dog and trying to read.

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#2373 Post by brainbomb » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:49 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:48 pm
ghug wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:44 pm
brainbomb wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:42 pm


scale of 1-10 rate quality of ideas he has put out
Putting out quality ideas does not necessarily correlate with towniness. See: you.
That would be funny if brain were town.
by all means come try to make that happen
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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2374 Post by bozotheclown » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:50 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:47 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:46 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:35 pm
It is definitely plausible that we're making a strategic mistake by not shooting lurkers earlier. This spot is a weird one

But if damo and ghug are mafia... hell even if just one is, we still have time to shoot them, I'm pretty sure
Even if lfischl and swordsman are mafia, DKing them today would not provide much information, so I think they can wait.
It certainly doesn't provide info, but it's more about the fact that it appears we have to resolve them on the chopping block, and that we only have two miskills left.

Don't get me wrong, I 100% rather damo or ghug and am not starting a wagon on a lurker right now. I do vaguely worry that we look back in a couple days and go "shit, we really should have dealt with this by now"
swordsman has not posted D2, so we should get more information about that slot soon.

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#2375 Post by damo666 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:50 pm

rdrivera2005 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:49 pm
I am walking the dog and trying to read.
Playing with yo yo and reading at the same time is v diff

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#2376 Post by President Eden » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:50 pm

Kind of surprised damo hasn't voted ghug for self-preservation yet, given how early he was to vote to preserve his townreads on D1.

Really solidifying this is SvS(vT... shame on y'all) for me

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#2377 Post by brainbomb » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:51 pm

you got ten minutes

tap into your inner w-o-o
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#2378 Post by damo666 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:51 pm

President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:50 pm
Kind of surprised damo hasn't voted ghug for self-preservation yet, given how early he was to vote to preserve his townreads on D1.

Really solidifying this is SvS(vT... shame on y'all) for me
Not voting a townread

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#2379 Post by President Eden » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:52 pm

damo666 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:51 pm
President Eden wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:50 pm
Kind of surprised damo hasn't voted ghug for self-preservation yet, given how early he was to vote to preserve his townreads on D1.

Really solidifying this is SvS(vT... shame on y'all) for me
Not voting a townread
Shame you didn't show Bunny that consideration

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2380 Post by President Eden » Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:56 pm

##VOTE damo666

taking away damo's ability to tie this by switching to ghug

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