MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1981 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:21 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:54 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:48 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:14 pm


Bona was my preference. Your bona vote made him a viable wagon without me, and there was no movement in the ensuing minutes, so I decided to get a second wagon I liked going. Your vote leaving bona made him not a viable wagon without me, so I came back. I did pretty much the same thing when I voted damo again (also after you lol) and when I moved from Bunny to Bona (after damo).
why do you hate me ghug :(
I don't hate you I just want you dead
he hates me :cry:

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1982 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:22 am

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:58 pm
Looks like idiots/scum are in a rush to kill me.

I've said where I'm at and I've explained myself. The NK told us nothing and we will not get more data during the day so I doubt I'll be saying much more.

If I get mk'd take good notice of who is on my wagon and more importantly who is not. And reread my reads.

##vote Bona because he's scum possible (although not in my gang of four from 1733), he's annoying and starts with B.
b for based
d for dum

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1983 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:23 am

Chaqa wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:59 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:46 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 7:58 pm


I don't think someone using the same wording twice for the same thing is weird.

How many times has Eden said bofa or ligma
but for votes?
Eh, it just doesn’t seem like scum indicative.
i still think it's important

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1984 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:23 am

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:59 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:53 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:52 pm


I'm down to 35 possible teams. Has anybody suggested less?
can you list them out for me
I could but I won't.

I'll let you get your crayons out.
damn getting toxic

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#1985 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:26 am

I went and read the damo case too so I could dunk on Eden more but sadly it's almost rational.

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#1986 Post by brainbomb » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:31 am

##Vote swordsman
What can I say? I'm survivin'
Crawling out these sheets to see another day

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#1987 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:46 am

I'm ##VOTE damo bored

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#1988 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:46 am

jk ##VOTE bona

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#1989 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:48 am

KoalaAttack wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:01 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:13 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:52 am


Yeah that's a possible interpretation.
this feels like a discussion of little merit

boring!
I don't understand. Why is a discussion of whether rdr's potential Townslip was a real Townslip or not of little merit?

If we believe, as a group, that rdr had a read Townslip that is super useful info, no? Meaning they are Townie.

And if we believe, as a group, that rdr intentionally tried to fake a Townslip that is also quite useful, no? Meaning they are Mafia.

And if rdr was indeed just talking about the 3 people from the previous sentence than this is NAI.

Suspicious you think this is of little merit!
rdr's smart enough to fake it as scum, and his explanation is entirely possible as town. it's not something that any serious person would vote him over.

make a solid case that either of those possibilities is firmly more likely. i'll believe it when i see it

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1990 Post by BK3K » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:49 am

ghug wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:26 am
I went and read the damo case too so I could dunk on Eden more but sadly it's almost rational.
Anytime know of the top of their head where to find this?

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#1991 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:49 am

damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:05 pm
President Eden wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:02 pm
damo666 wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:52 pm


I'm down to 35 possible teams. Has anybody suggested less?
That is a pretty pathetic underdelivery of a “game solve” and you have to know it.
I may have been overambitious. The guess is however an attempt at a solve.
sucks to be wrong. at least it's only d2!

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#1992 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:49 am

BK3K wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:49 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:26 am
I went and read the damo case too so I could dunk on Eden more but sadly it's almost rational.
Anytime know of the top of their head where to find this?
bishkek you can search for things on the bot

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#1993 Post by brainbomb » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:50 am

of youre so bored you can always go do
something else. its a long phase go make some bean curd, do a slam poetry jam, go have a beer and do some edibles with balki
What can I say? I'm survivin'
Crawling out these sheets to see another day

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#1994 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:52 am

BK3K wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:49 am
ghug wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:26 am
I went and read the damo case too so I could dunk on Eden more but sadly it's almost rational.
Anytime know of the top of their head where to find this?
Look through Eden's N1 posts in the bot. It's the longest one.

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#1995 Post by ghug » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:53 am

brainbomb wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:50 am
of youre so bored you can always go do
something else. its a long phase go make some bean curd, do a slam poetry jam, go have a beer and do some edibles with balki
Yet another zoomer not getting my jokes smh

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#1996 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:53 am

KoalaAttack wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:18 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:12 pm
usually people with a voting pool of 3 on d2 are supremely confident. most everyone else is riding the wave
Except I explicitly told you I'm not confident at all. And I had a pool of 3 on D2 last game too, 100% of which was incorrect :)
i don't know what's up with last game so don't pull a fast one on me there

you wrote out the words 'this is my voting pool', which is pretty damn confident if you ask me

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#1997 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:54 am

ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:29 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:19 pm
ghug wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 10:15 pm


Syllables don't fit:

my name is yon yonson I
live in Wisconsin I work
in a lumberyard there and
when I walk down the street the
people that I meet they say
"what's your name" and I say my

Checkmate scum.
Whereas if your name were "scum", it would go:

my name is scum I live in wis-
consin I work in a lumb-
beryard there and when I walk
down the street the people that
I meet they say "what's your name"
and I say my name is scum


Embarrassing scumslip bona.
Why is this stroke of genius not getting more attention?
mine was funnier

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#1998 Post by BK3K » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:57 am

rig
↑bozotheclown: "I haver a theory where you and ghug are mafia trying to set up eventual mis-kills of Bonatogether, Chaqa, and damo."
oh, well, buckle up then.

this was going to be a vca but it turned into a case.



damo's progression is mystifying to me.
↑damo666: "Town core

BK3K
brain
Chaqa
damo
FLum
​Koala
rdr

Unwilling to vote today

Bona
Bozo
Bunny
ghug

Scu​mpool

lfischl
Eden
S..."
t​his is at t-10h, roughly
↑damo666: "##vote Bunny (starts with B)

Will switch to TFB to save Chaqa if necessary.

Should be around EOD"
this is only a few hours later, at t-6:17.

if you're going to be around at EOD, why on Earth would you vote someone you just got through saying you were unwilling to vote today, in order to "save" somebody else with six hours to go?

damo switches to lfischl around the 4hr mark, which is fair enough. but around the same time he's involved in some back-and-forth with TFB, who has become a lead wagon and is in his scum pool, yet he never votes TFB. TFB remained a viable wagon until the Bunny dogpile in the final minutes. damo instead ends the day on Bunny, someone he would not kill, having switched there to break a tie on Bona, someone else he would not kill, while TFB, someone in his scum pool, is viable the whole way down.


there have been other issues too:
- damo holds onto this "vote among the Bs" bit despite suggesting in multiple replies that it's a joke/not otherwise to be taken seriously. the reasoning is arbitrary as others (brain, I think TFB as well) pointed out.
- damo seemingly lock towns Chaqa based off of Chaqa riffing in an easily exploitable way off of an easily exploited "tell," committing himself for the final several hours of the day to saving Chaqa at the expense of consistency with his actual suspects.
- I've been reticent to mention this out of fear of it being sour grapes, but scumming me for expressing awe at our bad luck d1 struck me as an arbitrary grasp for a scumread less overtly nonserious than "vote among the Bs."

his whole game feels like he's just here to be here. I think it was the game I hosted recently where I noticed that when he's mafia he tends to construct arbitrary premises that allow him to reach superficially logical conclusions within those premises which advance scum's current agenda. obviously, I can't spell out for you exactly how he's doing it here, but his method here is indistinguishable (for me anyway) from his scum method.

This the meat of it? Thinking it over. Thx for the bot tip

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#1999 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:57 am

TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:39 pm
Bonatogether wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:05 pm
TheFlyingBoat wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:43 pm


Generic mafia player #3 isn’t that bad and Damo is better than that. I had the pleasure of being a mason with him once and thought he was good
was that the game you were mason with kgary and i caught you guys voting as a bloc

it's not an investigative post but rather one that describes the world if damo was scum, with inherent unknowables that don't progress the case. i think it's probably what like happened but i don't believe that it's useful as a way of knowing dimmit's alignment
Oh I see what you’re trying at. You misunderstand the point. The primary presuppose of that wasn’t meant to be case progression, it was meant to be a response to bozo explaining the world in which Damo is scum and I’m not because bozo seemed to think the only realistic explanation for Damo’s word shading of me but not voting me being that we were on a scum team together
oh i understand

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Re: MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2000 Post by Bonatogether » Fri Feb 17, 2023 2:57 am

brainbomb wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 11:41 pm
this game needs Vernon
feel the vern

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