MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[ghug]

Actually I should be nicer.

Believing someone's town or scum shouldn't lead you to conclude their opinions are right or wrong. Brain can be town and wrong about me. Eden could be scum and right about me. Damo and boat can both be town and off track.

I dislike the post because it's a good way to set yourself up to kill people and wash your hands of it, though. You have to get behind your own opinions even if they're formed on the basis of others'. You're going to be held accountable for them regardless.

[BK3K]

Actually I should be nicer.

Believing someone's town or scum shouldn't lead you to conclude their opinions are right or wrong. Brain can be town and wrong about me. Eden could be scum and right about me. Damo and boat can both be town and off track.

I dislike the post because it's a good way to set yourself up to kill people and wash your hands of it, though. You have to get behind your own opinions even if they're formed on the basis of others'. You're going to be held accountable for them regardless.

I understand that. Y'all are just playing this game at such an intensity and pace that i can't keep up. I don't want to just check out, so I'm asking for help so i can participate. I totally understand this sets me up to be manipulated, i guess i can just try to trust that I'll find the truth

[President Eden]

so after we miskill damo can we consider someone I want to destroy?

roll d20 to pass a vibe check please

[BK3K]

Actually I should be nicer.

Believing someone's town or scum shouldn't lead you to conclude their opinions are right or wrong. Brain can be town and wrong about me. Eden could be scum and right about me. Damo and boat can both be town and off track.

I dislike the post because it's a good way to set yourself up to kill people and wash your hands of it, though. You have to get behind your own opinions even if they're formed on the basis of others'. You're going to be held accountable for them regardless.

I understand that. Y'all are just playing this game at such an intensity and pace that i can't keep up. I don't want to just check out, so I'm asking for help so i can participate. I totally understand this sets me up to be manipulated, i guess i can just try to trust that I'll find the truth

I know I'm playing poorly, but don't think i am capable of playing well. So it's either okay poorly or quit, and i don't want to quit

[rdrivera2005]

Right now I just don't know anymore. I wad townreading Dano but he has been really weird today like he didn't care being DKed either as town or scum which is unlikely for him.

I would not mind a Ghug wagon. He seems to be having too much fun this game to be town.

[ghug]

Actually I should be nicer.

Believing someone's town or scum shouldn't lead you to conclude their opinions are right or wrong. Brain can be town and wrong about me. Eden could be scum and right about me. Damo and boat can both be town and off track.

I dislike the post because it's a good way to set yourself up to kill people and wash your hands of it, though. You have to get behind your own opinions even if they're formed on the basis of others'. You're going to be held accountable for them regardless.

I understand that. Y'all are just playing this game at such an intensity and pace that i can't keep up. I don't want to just check out, so I'm asking for help so i can participate. I totally understand this sets me up to be manipulated, i guess i can just try to trust that I'll find the truth

Yeah, that part is fine, and we can support you. It's the rest of it that's irksome.

[ghug]

Right now I just don't know anymore. I wad townreading Dano but he has been really weird today like he didn't care being DKed either as town or scum which is unlikely for him.

I would not mind a Ghug wagon. He seems to be having too much fun this game to be town.

Since when have I had more fun as scum?

[damo666]

Think about it. If you were the doctor and got a roleblock message would you announce it?

Dislike this answer. It's like if I ask you what's considered the standard response to E2-E4 in chess to know whether the opponent is playing a standard game or not – and you are like "think about it, what do you think is a best move?"

OK fair enough. But I think you are asking the wrong question. Clearly the doc should stay silent on his actions. The real question is should the roleblockee announce they were roleblocked. Given the NK went through admitting to being RBd adds no further info. Scum already know who they roleblocked but have no idea whether they are doc or not. Admitting to being RBd (doctor or not) gives scum no info but tells us who is town (or at min gets a CC so we have a half scum caught).

In other words the Roleblockee should claim.

[I'm assuming the RBee gets a message regardless - I think worcej said this but should be checked first!]

[damo666]

Interesting Facts about Guns:
America has the highest gun possession rate of all the countries, with over 270 million people owning at least one of these firearms. When asked why they chose to have it, two-thirds of these people claimed protection as the major reason. Possession of a gun can make you feel safer and more in control of your protection.

As of 2022, gun-related deaths are among the top three leading causes of death in the United States. The Pew Research center surveyed in 2021 to find out what the average American feels concerning gun violence and possession. These results showed that 48% of Americans living in the U.S. see it as the number one problem facing society today.

The remaining percentage of people still bordered on the fact that it is a small or moderate problem, while only six agreed that it was no problem. During the survey, it was discovered that the differing opinions on this were majorly influenced by the race or ethnicity of the individual. 82% of black people agreed that gun violence is a major problem in society, the highest polling number accrued by any race in the survey. It is followed closely by the Hispanics, where 58% of the adults agreed that it is a problem. Only 38% of the Whites agreed to this.

Still, according to the 2022 survey by the Pew Center, more than half of Americans want stricter firearm laws. 32% argued that the current law is strict enough, while 14% said they would prefer it if it were less strict.

While there are so many debates on whether a stricter law would lead to a decrease in mass shootings, Americans have remained divided on this issue. 34% of the people think that if fewer people possessed this, the crime rate would increase, 34% believe the rate would remain the same, while 31% think there will be a drastic reduction in the crime rate.

FLUMINATOR HAS DIED. HE WAS THE TOWN ONE-SHOT VIGILANTE!

Day 2 has begun. You may now post.

Poop. No more confirmed Townie.

Open question to experienced players – but please only answer if answering this doesn't give Mafia useful info – is there a way for us to tell if the Doctor protected the wrong person or if the Mafia stopped the Doctor? Would a Doctor typically share what they did or did not do, or would it be better for them to remain silent?

The mafia won't know whether their roleblock succeeded or the doctor tried to save elsewhere. It's best not to probe on that, but we should be claiming roleblocked if we were roleblocked.

ghug put it a better way than me!

[brainbomb]

the person who did the roleblock should claim so we know if they did it

[brainbomb]

also saying that the roleblockee should claim does not mean every idiot in the game starts spouting off that they werent roleblocked.

mafia already knows you werent roleblocked and we only care about someone who was potentially roleblocked

[damo666]

I'm down to one team:
bona
damo
lfischl
Bishkek

Happy?

It's 34 less than 35 but it's wrong.

What are the odds that the true team is outside of your 35?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'outside' but the chance of me being wrong is

92/99 from mpov

136/143 from an outside pov

[ghug]

It's 34 less than 35 but it's wrong.

What are the odds that the true team is outside of your 35?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'outside' but the chance of me being wrong is

92/99 from mpov

136/143 from an outside pov

I more wanted a subjective likelihood. Obviously you think you're more likely to be right than that.

[rdrivera2005]

Right now I just don't know anymore. I wad townreading Dano but he has been really weird today like he didn't care being DKed either as town or scum which is unlikely for him.

I would not mind a Ghug wagon. He seems to be having too much fun this game to be town.

Since when have I had more fun as scum?

Fair point. But I can't see how any townie could be so relaxed on this damm game. We have two MK and unless the scum are exactly Damo, Bona, Chaqa and one of the lurkers we will lose. And I don't think neither of this 3 are scum. Maybe Damo.

[damo666]

GM Note:
Anyone who is roleblocked will receive a message stating "YOU WERE ROLEBLOCKED!"

WHOEVER WAS ROLEBLOCKED SHOULD CLAIM

[damo666]

What are the odds that the true team is outside of your 35?

I'm not sure what you mean by 'outside' but the chance of me being wrong is

92/99 from mpov

136/143 from an outside pov

I more wanted a subjective likelihood. Obviously you think you're more likely to be right than that.

OK top of the head guess

All 4 scum in the 7: 50%
3 scum in 7: 35%
2 scum in 7: 10%
1 scum in 7: 4%
All 7 town: 1%

[damo666]

G'night.

[President Eden]

also saying that the roleblockee should claim does not mean every idiot in the game starts spouting off that they werent roleblocked.

mafia already knows you werent roleblocked and we only care about someone who was potentially roleblocked

Joke's on you, I'm not an idiot!

I was not roleblocked.

[KoalaAttack]

Think about it. If you were the doctor and got a roleblock message would you announce it?

Dislike this answer. It's like if I ask you what's considered the standard response to E2-E4 in chess to know whether the opponent is playing a standard game or not – and you are like "think about it, what do you think is a best move?"

OK fair enough. But I think you are asking the wrong question. Clearly the doc should stay silent on his actions. The real question is should the roleblockee announce they were roleblocked. Given the NK went through admitting to being RBd adds no further info. Scum already know who they roleblocked but have no idea whether they are doc or not. Admitting to being RBd (doctor or not) gives scum no info but tells us who is town (or at min gets a CC so we have a half scum caught).

In other words the Roleblockee should claim.

[I'm assuming the RBee gets a message regardless - I think worcej said this but should be checked first!]

Now we're talking! Thank you, that's very helpful.

[brainbomb]

also saying that the roleblockee should claim does not mean every idiot in the game starts spouting off that they werent roleblocked.

mafia already knows you werent roleblocked and we only care about someone who was potentially roleblocked

Joke's on you, I'm not an idiot!

I was not roleblocked.

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