MAFIA 78: Random Facts [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[Bonatogether]

idk vibes. i don't recall you offering many opinions, i can go look at the records

you can just admit I write too much and you don't read it, I won't be offended

you write too much and i don't read it.

tbh, theres a lot to read in general. i did not anticipate we'd by up 90 pages by now

based

do you read my posts?

[Bonatogether]

Actually on further reflection, I don't think there's a tie together like I first thought. For clarity's sake, the exchange that caught my eye:


Bona had just gotten done calling the Bunny wagon "goated," so I'm not really sure why lfischl following onto it would have been "terrible." In theory, it struck me as the type of signal one mafia might send to the other to get off the wagon and be somewhere else (knowing Bunny would flip town and it would look like lfischl tried to save his teammate).

The issue is that I thought I remembered it happening earlier in the phase than it did, but it actually happened at t-1 minute... which is way too late to be trying to signal something.

lfischl tied himself to Bona pretty decisively down the stretch without a lot of explanation, which is kind of odd for a town to do, but only makes sense as mafia if Bona is also mafia.

Long story short I'm not sure what to make of it. I didn't like a lot of Bona's EOD so I'm inclined to just see them as a pair, but that has its faults obviously.

this is the low-quality take that i'd expect from a boomer

it's self-evidently a terrible vote, but because you clearly need it to be spelt out: fischy was AROUND during eod (he posted repeatedly in the last hour, which is like crazy), he failed to push his scumreads (chaqa and swordsy) at all. i liked the wagon, but that doesn't mean i have to like the people on it, especially the people who are hopping on in the last minute after watching the thread erupt

also i don't believe i ever mentioned (and i certainly never engaged with) fischy, so you need to explain a pairing based off one person posting things about a second that he knows well out of game

epic fail

I just quoted your engagement with lfischl lol... and you can certainly be tied to him without much doing on your end. Weak retort despite its teeth.

I realized the timing makes my theory suck anyway

oops lol

you can't tie me to a man when i never thought about him. maybe you can claim that lfischl buddied himself onto me but that's it

so true

[KoalaAttack]

i understand your logic wrt damo's alignment and the boat man's, but i'd like to ask if it's impossible in your view that boat man could be scum trying to get credit for killing damo.

why cave immediately, though? you had several minutes, and you could always flip

if you don't think damo is scum (either by being null or townlean on him), how is it a good bet to follow through on this logic you've outlined?

To answer the first question – sure, but then it's WIFOM turtles all the way down, isn't it? Infinite recursion of "there is no spoon" kind.

To answer your second question – mainly because I am actually trying to work, and I keep getting sucked back into this silly game thread! So while I made an effort to be around for Day End this time (lesson repeatedly learned from the last game) I prefer to spend those several minutes dealing with Python the programming language as opposed to Snakes the Mafia people.

To answer your third question – I am null on Damo. If flipping Damo Mafia gives TFC clearance, that is strictly better then flipping someone completely random as Mafia. Having said that, if I have a better Mafia suspect I would much rather vote for them. I spent most of the day voting for my #1 suspect Chaqa. You were suspect #2. But then someone made an excellent point about "Chaqa & Bono are likely to get killed sooner or later anywho"...

Anyway, I am not sure I have a very good answer to your third question – which is also another answer to why I backed down. Because y'all convinced me :)

[BK3K]

He's going to die. It's going to be like a father dropping his son off at day care for the first time but the day care is full of droopy-eyed, armless children

{he} is bunny. i saw the momentum swinging in his direct at the end so i saw his vote death as inevitable. him dropping me off at daycare is him inviting me to this game, when i have little experience, and i'm only here at all because of him. droopy eyed armless children is the rest of you, its what charlie sheen called mcjagger and others during his tiger blood era. its reference to the fact that it turns out you guys are all nuts (and possibly on cocaine)

I voted for bunn because my gut was telling me he was more sus than bona, despite the fact that i'd feel abandoned if my only reference point to the real world was gone

[KoalaAttack]

conf town have one less piece of info than everyone else (flum doesn't know my alignment, for ex, but i know mine and his)

This is an excellent point, thank you.

i make many but people don't read my posts as often as they should

First Bona earns Townie points in my book for making an excellent points.

Second Bona immediately loses them all for this arrogant statement.

Net zero!

[BK3K]

you can just admit I write too much and you don't read it, I won't be offended

you write too much and i don't read it.

tbh, theres a lot to read in general. i did not anticipate we'd by up 90 pages by now

based

do you read my posts?

i read as much as i can. didn't have my notepad in the office today so i was trying to track personalities in my head, but there is a lot of info to synthesize (work from home yesterday so i could be more engaged in game, don't tell my boss)

[President Eden]

you write too much and i don't read it.

tbh, theres a lot to read in general. i did not anticipate we'd by up 90 pages by now

based

do you read my posts?

i read as much as i can. didn't have my notepad in the office today so i was trying to track personalities in my head, but there is a lot of info to synthesize (work from home yesterday so i could be more engaged in game, don't tell my boss)

ohhh

in fairness I would say the bulk of my actually useful posting happened today, so you're forgiven this time rookie

[rdrivera2005]

Well, I miss EOD and you kill an innocent Bunny.

I am starting to move 3K and fisch to my scum pile, together with TFB. Probably wrong on one of them as all 3 scum voting Bunny isn't likely. I am also starting to get bad vibes from Ghug.

[BK3K]

Well, I miss EOD and you kill an innocent Bunny.

I am starting to move 3K and fisch to my scum pile, together with TFB. Probably wrong on one of them as all 3 scum voting Bunny isn't likely. I am also starting to get bad vibes from Ghug.

may i ask why?

[Bonatogether]

i understand your logic wrt damo's alignment and the boat man's, but i'd like to ask if it's impossible in your view that boat man could be scum trying to get credit for killing damo.

why cave immediately, though? you had several minutes, and you could always flip

if you don't think damo is scum (either by being null or townlean on him), how is it a good bet to follow through on this logic you've outlined?

To answer the first question – sure, but then it's WIFOM turtles all the way down, isn't it? Infinite recursion of "there is no spoon" kind.

To answer your second question – mainly because I am actually trying to work, and I keep getting sucked back into this silly game thread! So while I made an effort to be around for Day End this time (lesson repeatedly learned from the last game) I prefer to spend those several minutes dealing with Python the programming language as opposed to Snakes the Mafia people.

To answer your third question – I am null on Damo. If flipping Damo Mafia gives TFC clearance, that is strictly better then flipping someone completely random as Mafia. Having said that, if I have a better Mafia suspect I would much rather vote for them. I spent most of the day voting for my #1 suspect Chaqa. You were suspect #2. But then someone made an excellent point about "Chaqa & Bono are likely to get killed sooner or later anywho"...

Anyway, I am not sure I have a very good answer to your third question – which is also another answer to why I backed down. Because y'all convinced me :)

the first thing isn't wifom. there's 4 possibilities.
1. scum boat man is trying to get an easy kill on town damo
2. scum boat man is bussing scum damo for cred
3. town boat man has correctly latched onto scum damo
4. town boat man is onto nothing with town damo
you're claiming that 2 is impossible, which means by flipping damo, you learn if you're in either world 3 or 1/4. i'm asking you to consider if world 2 is really impossible

are you not excited by the drama? the action? the excitement of watching the lord of the flies smite some peon?

by voting out a true null, you're taking 4/13 odds that you're going to be in world 3 (so getting this payoff you describe) and 9/13 odds that you get nothing except a dead townie. to me the opportunity cost of losing an opportunity to shoot someone we think is more likely scum is sufficient that this is a bad deal for town

[Bonatogether]

He's going to die. It's going to be like a father dropping his son off at day care for the first time but the day care is full of droopy-eyed, armless children

{he} is bunny. i saw the momentum swinging in his direct at the end so i saw his vote death as inevitable. him dropping me off at daycare is him inviting me to this game, when i have little experience, and i'm only here at all because of him. droopy eyed armless children is the rest of you, its what charlie sheen called mcjagger and others during his tiger blood era. its reference to the fact that it turns out you guys are all nuts (and possibly on cocaine)

I voted for bunn because my gut was telling me he was more sus than bona, despite the fact that i'd feel abandoned if my only reference point to the real world was gone

interesting

why did you vote for bongo in a quote of me asking what that meant?

[Bonatogether]

This is an excellent point, thank you.

i make many but people don't read my posts as often as they should

First Bona earns Townie points in my book for making an excellent points.

Second Bona immediately loses them all for this arrogant statement.

Net zero!

you would know it's right if you read my posts

[Bonatogether]

you write too much and i don't read it.

tbh, theres a lot to read in general. i did not anticipate we'd by up 90 pages by now

based

do you read my posts?

i read as much as i can. didn't have my notepad in the office today so i was trying to track personalities in my head, but there is a lot of info to synthesize (work from home yesterday so i could be more engaged in game, don't tell my boss)

i knew we were destined to be best friends

[Bonatogether]

i might do a vca post

maybe i won't

[KoalaAttack]

i make many but people don't read my posts as often as they should

First Bona earns Townie points in my book for making an excellent points.

Second Bona immediately loses them all for this arrogant statement.

Net zero!

you would know it's right if you read my posts

Yes my bad, how could I fogret that amazing koalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoala post which was clearly filled to the brim with useful insights and not noise-spam at all!

You also said we are buddies and just told BK3K you are best friends!

Is this what Mafia making friends with newbies looks like? Suspicious again.

[Bonatogether]

First Bona earns Townie points in my book for making an excellent points.

Second Bona immediately loses them all for this arrogant statement.

Net zero!

you would know it's right if you read my posts

Yes my bad, how could I fogret that amazing koalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoalakoala post which was clearly filled to the brim with useful insights and not noise-spam at all!

You also said we are buddies and just told BK3K you are best friends!

Is this what Mafia making friends with newbies looks like? Suspicious again.

that was both hilarious and useful in getting you to read the game

bishkek is my best friend, we're just buddies. hope you understand

sus. amogus?

[rdrivera2005]

Well, I miss EOD and you kill an innocent Bunny.

I am starting to move 3K and fisch to my scum pile, together with TFB. Probably wrong on one of them as all 3 scum voting Bunny isn't likely. I am also starting to get bad vibes from Ghug.

may i ask why?

Because I don't buy your act about not wanting to be alone with us freaks and then voting Bunny anyway. I find your interaction with Bona at night forced. If you said you want to catch scum Bunny on your first game to be able to gloat on him I can understand, but this "poor BK3K left alone" thing looks like scum tryng to get sympathy.

[President Eden]

i'm mildly bewildered that so many people dipped for n1 after that eod1

begrudging town stocks to my annoying child for putting in effort during the night

[BK3K]

He's going to die. It's going to be like a father dropping his son off at day care for the first time but the day care is full of droopy-eyed, armless children

{he} is bunny. i saw the momentum swinging in his direct at the end so i saw his vote death as inevitable. him dropping me off at daycare is him inviting me to this game, when i have little experience, and i'm only here at all because of him. droopy eyed armless children is the rest of you, its what charlie sheen called mcjagger and others during his tiger blood era. its reference to the fact that it turns out you guys are all nuts (and possibly on cocaine)

I voted for bunn because my gut was telling me he was more sus than bona, despite the fact that i'd feel abandoned if my only reference point to the real world was gone

interesting

why did you vote for bongo in a quote of me asking what that meant?

i don't know, seemed like the right time? Don't really have a good answer for you bud

[KoalaAttack]

i'm mildly bewildered that so many people dipped for n1 after that eod1

begrudging town stocks to my annoying child for putting in effort during the night

Sorry if this is a silly question – but how much activity is there usually in the Mafia hideout on N1?

I am trying to look at the history from last game's M77 Discord server – but very hard to map it back to game days. Is it hard for someone to post in both places?