MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

I'm leaning toward final answer rivera.

I keep see-sawing

[Chaqa]

I'm leaning toward final answer rivera.

I keep see-sawing

I feel that. I just cannot understand any practical reason scum!Damo would kill Balki over Rivera, whereas scum!Rivera couldn't kill himself.

scum!Chaqa would also likewise kill rivera and try to convince Damo to vote Balki

The only person who wouldn't kill rivera... is rivera.

[rdrivera2005]

I'm leaning toward final answer rivera.

I keep see-sawing

I feel that. I just cannot understand any practical reason scum!Damo would kill Balki over Rivera, whereas scum!Rivera couldn't kill himself.

scum!Chaqa would also likewise kill rivera and try to convince Damo to vote Balki

The only person who wouldn't kill rivera... is rivera.

I think scum Chaqa kills Balki and try to get Rivera or Damo to vote the other. If you kill me after Balki townslip I don't think you will be able to convince Balki to vote Damo the same way you just almost gave up to convince me (you keep this "oh it's difficult " facade) but are focusing on subtly convince Damo to vote me.
The worst part is that it's working.

[damo666]

I don't see any floundering from Bozo, whatsoever.

If anything is fishy here, it's Balki

##vote Chaqa

[Chaqa]

I keep see-sawing

I feel that. I just cannot understand any practical reason scum!Damo would kill Balki over Rivera, whereas scum!Rivera couldn't kill himself.

scum!Chaqa would also likewise kill rivera and try to convince Damo to vote Balki

The only person who wouldn't kill rivera... is rivera.

I think scum Chaqa kills Balki and try to get Rivera or Damo to vote the other. If you kill me after Balki townslip I don't think you will be able to convince Balki to vote Damo the same way you just almost gave up to convince me (you keep this "oh it's difficult " facade) but are focusing on subtly convince Damo to vote me.
The worst part is that it's working.

The only reason I haven't hammered is because I'm not sure I'm being played by Damo.

[damo666]

If I’m scum I promise to hammer the night.

Smug Chaqa

[Chaqa]

If I’m scum I promise to hammer the night.

Smug Chaqa

No, I just am incapable of not turning everything into a joke.

[Chaqa]

@Damo: during day 2 you posted this:

I am town reading the following players with reasons stated:

Balki - don't think he'd claim and retract as scum
Bozo - for stating we will need to mass claim at some point
Bo - for post 798
Chaqa - don't believe his claim but not a scum move I think
ghug - vibes
KA - feel
worcej - doc claim

This leaves my scum pool as Bunny, lfischl, rdr and yav.

on Day 3, you voted for me, and Bozo, and Lfischl. 2/3 of those don't match your stated reads, and you didn't mention scum reading myself or Bozo more on Day 2. You didn't post Night 2. On Day 3 you were chasing down the claims, but then posted this:

3 scum in this pool:

Balki, Chaqa, Damo, Lficshl, rdr, Bo, Bozo

3 town clears.

Balki includes himself. Double bluff or completeness?

My current guess is Chaqa, Bozo and one of Balki/lfischl/rdr [that order].

The flip on me was motivated by the Watcher claim and me not dying, but why did you flip on Bozo? To me, it kinda looks like on Night 2 you made a choice to begin bussing your teammates to be the long threat.

[damo666]

@Damo: during day 2 you posted this:

I am town reading the following players with reasons stated:

Balki - don't think he'd claim and retract as scum
Bozo - for stating we will need to mass claim at some point
Bo - for post 798
Chaqa - don't believe his claim but not a scum move I think
ghug - vibes
KA - feel
worcej - doc claim

This leaves my scum pool as Bunny, lfischl, rdr and yav.

on Day 3, you voted for me, and Bozo, and Lfischl. 2/3 of those don't match your stated reads, and you didn't mention scum reading myself or Bozo more on Day 2. You didn't post Night 2. On Day 3 you were chasing down the claims, but then posted this:

3 scum in this pool:

Balki, Chaqa, Damo, Lficshl, rdr, Bo, Bozo

3 town clears.

Balki includes himself. Double bluff or completeness?

My current guess is Chaqa, Bozo and one of Balki/lfischl/rdr [that order].

The flip on me was motivated by the Watcher claim and me not dying, but why did you flip on Bozo? To me, it kinda looks like on Night 2 you made a choice to begin bussing your teammates to be the long threat.

I'll have to go back and look. I won't be quick.

[Chaqa]

Rivera, you around?

How you feeling?

[damo666]

The thing that bugs me is Chaqa saying he submitted a night hammer before the Balki thing and rdr hammering after he said he was gonna chill.

This is the only reason I am not ending on Chaqa. I have found Chaqa way more scummy than rdr throughout.

[damo666]

@Damo: during day 2 you posted this:

I am town reading the following players with reasons stated:

Balki - don't think he'd claim and retract as scum
Bozo - for stating we will need to mass claim at some point
Bo - for post 798
Chaqa - don't believe his claim but not a scum move I think
ghug - vibes
KA - feel
worcej - doc claim

This leaves my scum pool as Bunny, lfischl, rdr and yav.

on Day 3, you voted for me, and Bozo, and Lfischl. 2/3 of those don't match your stated reads, and you didn't mention scum reading myself or Bozo more on Day 2. You didn't post Night 2. On Day 3 you were chasing down the claims, but then posted this:

3 scum in this pool:

Balki, Chaqa, Damo, Lficshl, rdr, Bo, Bozo

3 town clears.

Balki includes himself. Double bluff or completeness?

My current guess is Chaqa, Bozo and one of Balki/lfischl/rdr [that order].

The flip on me was motivated by the Watcher claim and me not dying, but why did you flip on Bozo? To me, it kinda looks like on Night 2 you made a choice to begin bussing your teammates to be the long threat.

If you look a bit before the second post you will see I voted fish as a non-claimer who virtually immediately claimed. I then voted Bozo who was top of the list not having claimed despite giving it support.

[damo666]

@rdr anything to say?

[rdrivera2005]

The thing that bugs me is Chaqa saying he submitted a night hammer before the Balki thing and rdr hammering after he said he was gonna chill.

This is the only reason I am not ending on Chaqa. I have found Chaqa way more scummy than rdr throughout.

I think you are not looking the messages right. I said I would relax and enjoy the night with family and I did exactly this. This was before the Balki slip.

Then next day I got back to the game, saw Jamiet messages telling he has more then O hammer and PMed my hammer to Jamiet.

[rdrivera2005]

@rdr anything to say?

The way I see the game, if you were scum you would have won yesterday. If you have changed from Bozo to Balki like Chaqa was begging you, I will probably follow and Bozo will have obviously followed so it will be game over. So, I just can't see a world where it isn't Chaqa.

[Chaqa]

@rdr anything to say?

The way I see the game, if you were scum you would have won yesterday. If you have changed from Bozo to Balki like Chaqa was begging you, I will probably follow and Bozo will have obviously followed so it will be game over. So, I just can't see a world where it isn't Chaqa.

Except that by ending, he had essentially proven either he or Bozo was scum, and switching would basically have been a tel that he’s mafia.

[Chaqa]

That also seems super revisionist to how that day was actually playing out…

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 7.3

Chaqa (2) - rdrivera2005, damo666
rdrivera2005 (1) - Chaqa

CHAQA is scheduled to be eliminated.

13 hours and 21 minutes are left.

[damo666]

@rdr anything to say?

The way I see the game, if you were scum you would have won yesterday. If you have changed from Bozo to Balki like Chaqa was begging you, I will probably follow and Bozo will have obviously followed so it will be game over. So, I just can't see a world where it isn't Chaqa.

Except that by ending, he had essentially proven either he or Bozo was scum, and switching would basically have been a tel that he’s mafia.

Rubbish

[damo666]

##end

If I'm wrong, I'm wrong.