Twenty Questions, Game 90

[damo666]

Free guess

Li Zicheng

Is this outstanding or refunded due to Japan being confirmed?

[han-shahanshah]

As I said, it is someone from Japan and not China. Anyone who guessed someone from China has their free guess refunded.

It is not Koxinga (I wasn’t aware he was born in Japan— good to know!)

[supi13]

Free guess: is it Tokugawa Ieyasu?

[JECE]

As I said, it is someone from Japan and not China. Anyone who guessed someone from China has their free guess refunded.

It is not Koxinga (I wasn’t aware he was born in Japan— good to know!)

Well, the beans were already spilled since he didn't die until after 1650. But I get another free guess, then?

I didn't realize that he was born in Japan either, ha ha.

[han-shahanshah]

You do get another free guess.

Not Tokugawa Ieyasu

[Doom427]

Oda Nobunaga

[DougJoe]

Well, if he died before 1650 (or our GM explicitly retracts Japan, I think I'll use my free guess on one of the three following persons:
Oda Nobunaga
Toyotomi Hideyoshi
Tokugawa Ieyasu

Don't forget about Shingen Takeda, the Tiger of Kai, and Kenshin Uesugi, the Dragon of Echigo!

Yeah, there were many important personalities at the time, though personally I tend to think of the winning side more; and honestly, I think it's probably something like a 50/50 between Nobunaga and Ieyasu, at least for me.

I played a NES game way back when called _Shingen the Ruler_ where Shingen Takeda was the protagonist, so I always think of him first in that period. I never played _Nobunaga's Ambition_.

The signs in Ryu's stage from _Street Fighter II_ are a shortened version of Takeda's battle standard (which itself came from Sun Tzu's _Art of War_.)

[DougJoe]

Was this person a samurai?

[han-shahanshah]

Not Oda Nobunaga.

At this rate it’s down to very few candidates and a smart player would use conditionals to guess multiple people..

[han-shahanshah]

Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.

[DougJoe]

Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.

Q 12 seemed to leave a lot of military options open (lots of and/ors)... and samurai worked for daimyos, right? So personally I wouldn't consider them the same.

[DougJoe]

Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.

Q 12 seemed to leave a lot of military options open (lots of and/ors)... and samurai worked for daimyos, right? So personally I wouldn't consider them the same.

...although Wikipedia says that some daimyos were promoted samurai, but I was thinking of a couple of samurai who were never daimyos (Hattori Hanzo and Miyamoto Musashi).

[DougJoe]

Free guess: since the other two "great unifiers" have been guessed, I'll try the third, Toyotomi Hideyoshi.

[damo666]

As I said, it is someone from Japan and not China. Anyone who guessed someone from China has their free guess refunded.

It is not Koxinga (I wasn’t aware he was born in Japan— good to know!)

Where did you say this?

[han-shahanshah]

I verified Kakarroto’s earlier interpretation.

Free guess: since the other two "great unifiers" have been guessed, I'll try the third, Toyotomi Hideyoshi.

Nope, not him.

Yes if you count daimyos as samurais.. this has essentially been answered by question twelve though.

Q 12 seemed to leave a lot of military options open (lots of and/ors)... and samurai worked for daimyos, right? So personally I wouldn't consider them the same.

...although Wikipedia says that some daimyos were promoted samurai, but I was thinking of a couple of samurai who were never daimyos (Hattori Hanzo and Miyamoto Musashi).

Wikipedia does not explicitly call him a samurai but a daimyo.

[JECE]

There are so many and we only have one question left:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_d ... oku_period

The entertainer question and response is interesting.

Was this man an entertainer (including actor, music man, poet, comedian, painter, sculptor, magician, circus performer, competitive eating champion, or writer of fiction) ?

Although he could conceivably fit some of those descriptions depending on interpretation, I would not call him an entertainer.

Many daimyo were poets and some of the Wikipedia articles even include their death poems. But the word "some" suggests that historians have verified that this man also painted and/or played a musical instrument.

[han-shahanshah]

Eh, wouldn’t read so much into that answer.

[Jamiet99uk]

I seriously doubt this person is famous or even vaguely well known.

I'm out.

[han-shahanshah]

His name has already been mentioned…

[Jamiet99uk]

His name has already been mentioned…

Well I submitted a guess twice and you ignored me both times so I'm losing track to be honest.