MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[damo666]

@Bunny please can we get Chaqa

why chaqa? I mean...yeah...it's chaqa...but why specifically?

Because he wasn't NKd

[damo666]

I could see voting bozo...
I could see rdr (why not you?)

I could see Balki.

I hate myself soo so much; and my headache is punishment enough; but I think Drunk Bunny wasn't gonna vote Chaqa, and he's usually correct.

Rdr for voting pattern.

Could vote Bozo or Balki albeit reluctantly.

Agreed on the reluctance of bozo and balki. ONLY APPLIES TO BALKI

What about rdr's voting pattern? EXPLAINED BEFORE It seemed on day 2 that he and fish moved in tandem to save bo and kill yavu.

I could see a bo-rdr team. NAH

[damo666]

Never drinking again.

Until the next time.

Could you explain to me again (as if everything hurts) why bo is the towniest of the not clears to you?

Voting

[BunnyGo]

@Bunny please can we get Chaqa

why chaqa? I mean...yeah...it's chaqa...but why specifically?

Because he wasn't NKd

Neither were you...

[BunnyGo]

Rdr for voting pattern.

Could vote Bozo or Balki albeit reluctantly.

Agreed on the reluctance of bozo and balki. ONLY APPLIES TO BALKI

What about rdr's voting pattern? EXPLAINED BEFORE It seemed on day 2 that he and fish moved in tandem to save bo and kill yavu.

I could see a bo-rdr team. NAH

Wait...why're you giving rdr credit for that move on day 2?

He moved first. Then FISH panicked and followed. That would be FISH making a panic play, right?

[BunnyGo]

Never drinking again.

Until the next time.

Could you explain to me again (as if everything hurts) why bo is the towniest of the not clears to you?

Voting

Shit...this is cocky "I'm winning" damo....I hate that I can only read you on vibes.

[damo666]

why chaqa? I mean...yeah...it's chaqa...but why specifically?

Because he wasn't NKd

Neither were you...

I didn't claim Watcher

[damo666]

Agreed on the reluctance of bozo and balki. ONLY APPLIES TO BALKI

What about rdr's voting pattern? EXPLAINED BEFORE It seemed on day 2 that he and fish moved in tandem to save bo and kill yavu.

I could see a bo-rdr team. NAH

Wait...why're you giving rdr credit for that move on day 2?

He moved first. Then FISH panicked and followed. That would be FISH making a panic play, right?

I'm not. I'm giving him credit for days 1 and 3.

[damo666]

Could you explain to me again (as if everything hurts) why bo is the towniest of the not clears to you?

Voting

Shit...this is cocky "I'm winning" damo....I hate that I can only read you on vibes.

His D1 vote move from fish to pyx makes no sense from a scumBo. That is why I've eliminated him from my enquiries.

We have 1 mk. If we continue to dk from Balki/Bozo/Chaqa we can't lose.

[BunnyGo]

Voting

Shit...this is cocky "I'm winning" damo....I hate that I can only read you on vibes.

His D1 vote move from fish to pyx makes no sense from a scumBo. That is why I've eliminated him from my enquiries.

We have 1 mk. If we continue to dk from Balki/Bozo/Chaqa we can't lose.

wait...you just dropped rdr too from that...

[KoalaAttack]

Current thoughts from towniest to scummiest:
Me (BUNNY!)
Koala (ATTACK!!!)

Oh my, this is such a clear Mafia slip... so Bunny was a plant all along! Clearly it's supposed to say Me (GO!) above.

[Chaqa]

Currently, I'm at around here:
Damo: 75%
Balki: 60%
Bozo: 40%
Bo: 15%
Rivera: 10%

##Vote Damo

[KoalaAttack]

@koala after a shower I decided I'd be willing to consider Balki *IF* you get an item for it. I don't particularly scum read him, but a doc save is worth a lot to us. A gun might be worth something too.

Not saying I'll definitely follow through, but I'm willing to consider it.

Question for Bunny and others – wait, so you want me to claim my PR role?

Can someone please walk me through the Pros & Cons of claiming PR role vs keeping it ambiguous?

Specifically, Gambler is not the only role with high risk, depending on who said risk falls onto :)

[damo666]

Shit...this is cocky "I'm winning" damo....I hate that I can only read you on vibes.

His D1 vote move from fish to pyx makes no sense from a scumBo. That is why I've eliminated him from my enquiries.

We have 1 mk. If we continue to dk from Balki/Bozo/Chaqa we can't lose.

wait...you just dropped rdr too from that...

Yes, due to his D3 voting.

If I've got rdr or Bo wrong I'll be disappointed but c'est la vie. Also somewhere I observed Bozo/rdr so if we flip Bozo first and he flips scum that would give me even greater confidence if rdr's innocence.

Also I think Balki should be up for the chop if and only Koala claims gambler and confirms he bet on Balki. @Koala wanna claim?

[damo666]

@koala after a shower I decided I'd be willing to consider Balki *IF* you get an item for it. I don't particularly scum read him, but a doc save is worth a lot to us. A gun might be worth something too.

Not saying I'll definitely follow through, but I'm willing to consider it.

Question for Bunny and others – wait, so you want me to claim my PR role?

Can someone please walk me through the Pros & Cons of claiming PR role vs keeping it ambiguous?

Specifically, Gambler is not the only role with high risk, depending on who said risk falls onto :)

Gambler might get us another day if we prevent a NK. Hopefully either you or Bunny are CWV to get us another mk and virtually certain success.

If you are gambler I suggest you claim and say who you bet on. If you are not gambler simply say "I am not gambler". If Bunny is gambler (which I doubt) and the vote is not going the way he wants he should announce with say 1 hour left.

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Koala, it’s hard for the rest of us to speculate on whether you should give a more specific claim. You need to look at your power and consider how it may play out. Then look at all of the potential Town PR roles and consider how their potential existence impacts scum night actions.

I think that having ambiguity in both your role and Bunny’s role is very valuable. But you are in the best position to know.

[damo666]

@Koala, it’s hard for the rest of us to speculate on whether you should give a more specific claim. You need to look at your power and consider how it may play out. Then look at all of the potential Town PR roles and consider how their potential existence impacts scum night actions.

I think that having ambiguity in both your role and Bunny’s role is very valuable. But you are in the best position to know.

I like this post.

@Balki what do you think about Bozo/Chaqa scumpair?

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Koala, it’s hard for the rest of us to speculate on whether you should give a more specific claim. You need to look at your power and consider how it may play out. Then look at all of the potential Town PR roles and consider how their potential existence impacts scum night actions.

I think that having ambiguity in both your role and Bunny’s role is very valuable. But you are in the best position to know.

I like this post.

@Balki what do you think about Bozo/Chaqa scumpair?

I can’t rule it out. Haven’t investigated that one in particular. Bozo hasn’t really been on my radar screen in this game, but he has fooled me before as a scum player, so I respect his scum game.

Is there something specific about that pair that makes you suspect it?

[damo666]

@Koala, it’s hard for the rest of us to speculate on whether you should give a more specific claim. You need to look at your power and consider how it may play out. Then look at all of the potential Town PR roles and consider how their potential existence impacts scum night actions.

I think that having ambiguity in both your role and Bunny’s role is very valuable. But you are in the best position to know.

I like this post.

@Balki what do you think about Bozo/Chaqa scumpair?

I can’t rule it out. Haven’t investigated that one in particular. Bozo hasn’t really been on my radar screen in this game, but he has fooled me before as a scum player, so I respect his scum game.

Is there something specific about that pair that makes you suspect it?

It's more than I rule out the rest.

[Balki Bartokomous]

I like this post.

@Balki what do you think about Bozo/Chaqa scumpair?

I can’t rule it out. Haven’t investigated that one in particular. Bozo hasn’t really been on my radar screen in this game, but he has fooled me before as a scum player, so I respect his scum game.

Is there something specific about that pair that makes you suspect it?

It's more than I rule out the rest.

I don’t think that your method of ruling out Bo for his Day 1 vote is convincing at all. Scum!Bo would not have placed much value on staying on a 1-vote vanity wagon for lfischl. He would not have expected to get credit for staying there, so the fact that he did not stay there is not town-indicative.