MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

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Re: MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

#2021 Post by BunnyGo » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:52 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:41 pm
Balki was the first D3 vote for lfischl, and changed his vote in his first post after Chaqa voted for lfischl, which now looks a little suspicious.
Yeah…but in that game state it’s so suspicious it isn’t.

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#2022 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:57 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:52 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:41 pm
Balki was the first D3 vote for lfischl, and changed his vote in his first post after Chaqa voted for lfischl, which now looks a little suspicious.
Yeah…but in that game state it’s so suspicious it isn’t.
True, if the mafia were bussing lfischl, they would have committed to it, so Chaqa's vote is more consistent with bussing.

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#2023 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:59 pm

Chaqa’s vote is also consistent with believing Lfischl is scum.

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#2024 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:59 pm

The paradox of mafia: sometimes it is seen as more scummy to vote scum than to not vote scum.

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#2025 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:02 pm

I re-read all of lfischl's posts, and I could find a single post that seemed like pocketing. lfischl never really town read anyone. This is as close as he came:
lfischl wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:49 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 17, 2023 10:40 pm
Who wants to flash wagon Bo for fun
I don't think bo is scum here

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#2026 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:04 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:59 pm
The paradox of mafia: sometimes it is seen as more scummy to vote scum than to not vote scum.
That is the down side of being a known busser as mafia.
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#2027 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:12 pm

bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:04 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:59 pm
The paradox of mafia: sometimes it is seen as more scummy to vote scum than to not vote scum.
That is the down side of being a known busser as mafia.
Literally ever mafia player is a busser.

I have played in over 60 mafia games, I have a reputation for doing *everything* at this point.

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#2028 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:12 pm

It's like saying a chess player can have a reputation for moving their knights...

everyone is gonna do it

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#2029 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:17 pm

No one ever talks about the many games where I spend the whole time keeping my teammates alive (celaph comes to mind in one or two games). Specificlly, Damo knows this as i've been scum with him a bunch of times.

But it's not as easy to use that in a case as "chaqa has a reputation as a busser, look at this one vote count from thirty games ago!" type BS.

tldr all of the accusations I get every single game got old forty games ago and it's weird I'm the only one who gets the "bussing reputation" comments every game.

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#2030 Post by bozotheclown » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:35 pm

Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:12 pm
bozotheclown wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:04 pm
Chaqa wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:59 pm
The paradox of mafia: sometimes it is seen as more scummy to vote scum than to not vote scum.
That is the down side of being a known busser as mafia.
Literally ever mafia player is a busser.

I have played in over 60 mafia games, I have a reputation for doing *everything* at this point.
I always consider bussing a possibility. I did not say I think you were bussing lfischl, just that your vote could be bussing, so that I would not rule you out from being mafia with lfischl based strictly on that vote.

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#2031 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:36 pm

@Chaqa perhaps because you bus more than the average busser

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#2032 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:43 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:36 pm
@Chaqa perhaps because you bus more than the average busser
I really don't think I do.

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#2033 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:19 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:07 pm
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:06 pm
I feel like the existence of a Ninja confirms that we have a tracker or watcher, but I'm not sure I should make that inference. No need for anyone else to comment on that.

One reason that might matter is it may have been in scumbuckets heads that we had one of those. Just a thought.
I would think the roles are chosen independent at random, no?

Otherwise scum get lots of intel.

Anyways….I’d like everyone to finish the game:

What’s my role?!
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#2034 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:21 pm

BunnyGo wrote:
Mon Jan 23, 2023 11:14 pm
Can the scum team get any use from a quack anymore?

Would the quack have claimed doctor?

Tough guy counters CWV

Strongman counters doctor.

Hooker counters several.

Driver counters several.


Hmmmm.

Should we try getting the gambler an item?
Probably a waste of time but no harm in trying.
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#2035 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:34 pm

Current nightvote

Bo 2 - Bunny, Bozo
Chaqa 1 - damo

Balki Bo Chaqa Koala rdr worcej to vote
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#2036 Post by damo666 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:38 pm

Another townie thing about Bo's D1 vote. He moved off lfischl with 20 minutes to go about an hour after becoming the sole voter left on lfischl. If he had been bussing wouldn't he have just left it?

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#2037 Post by bo_sox48 » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:41 pm

Don’t use logic with them damo; it will somehow make you look bad when I flip town.
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#2038 Post by Chaqa » Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:43 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:34 pm
Current nightvote

Bo 2 - Bunny, Bozo
Chaqa 1 - damo

Balki Bo Chaqa Koala rdr worcej to vote
I vote Damo.

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#2039 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:01 pm

damo666 wrote:
Tue Jan 24, 2023 3:38 pm
Another townie thing about Bo's D1 vote. He moved off lfischl with 20 minutes to go about an hour after becoming the sole voter left on lfischl. If he had been bussing wouldn't he have just left it?
Because he would have expected us to give him town credit for staying on a lfischl vanity wagon? Is that the argument you are making?

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#2040 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Tue Jan 24, 2023 4:05 pm

I don’t see a point in casting a “night vote.” My “vote” will simply stay with whomever the majority of our PRs chooses.

I do see a benefit in all of the non-clears making arguments to support who they think is scum and who they think is town. Right now, my lead suspects are Bo, rdrivera, and Chaqa. I’ll try to put a bit more time into it later today to read some more and elaborate more. I encourage everyone to re-read the game, or re-read parts of the game. We’ve learned a ton of new info recently, and it all looks a little different now.
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