MAFIA 39 - GAME THREAD

[Squigs44]

Like the game starts at N1 so I am inclined to do a full-assessment start of D1. I don't really have much to say or add to a game that starts in the night phase. It's more of a period of self-reflection for me and really an opportunity to hit the game running when some info materializes to analyze. You know?

Posts four times last game, and starts out this game deferring his posts until 24 hours later. Laziest mafia player I've seen. ND, why don't you actually help town out for once and give some opinions. What are your thoughts on Y2k? He's been pretty active out of the gate.

[ND]

um I've made some posts bud and it's not like the game is actually active. We are on 6 pages and it's the middle of the night phase. More info makes quality posts something you may not understand.

[Durga]

I'm shooting brain

[Vecna]

Hey RHK. I play path of exile too. My guy is horrible lol

Why dont I ever see you play? Install that steam client noob

We should form a group and all that. What league u guys playing?

[Vecna]

Durga we should shoot someone who is normally hard to read. Like bozo for example

Bozo hard to read? wut?

He is like the easiest person on all of webdip to read?

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE:

I know that the Peterbot is not running correctly. I do not have the access to rectify this - it will have to wait until Peterlund sees my message.

[Vecna]

ghug: the five potential clears are the two nurses, the electroshield, the birthday card and the detective, they can only be town.

brainbomb: if the Mafia roleblock and kill the cannon holder that could mean they may be trying to protect the target we selected, that would also be somewhat informative. And the cannon holder is not one of the potential clears anyway, so it's not a bad NK for town, better than them NKing a potential clear. Cannon holders should not be afraid of being NK'd. It means the detective won't be roleblocked and killed before giving us their scan.

I think both cannon holders need to claim for the plan to be most effective, because forcing a scum to claim if they have a cannon is an important part of it. We will most likely find out who has what item at some point by process of elimination, and then if they had a cannon and didn't claim it could help us catch them. If they are forced to claim their gun they are less likely to be able to use it effectively.

Cannon holders should just stfu, hold their gun, and shoot scum when they have a solid scumread.

None of this pre-organized easily manipulated bullshit. Scum is only gonna claim if theyre capable of manipulating the outcome to their own benefit.

If cannonholders want towncred, they can fucking earn it by shooting scum. On their own, without us pointing and forcing them to do so.

[Vecna]

Xorxes plan is absolute dogshit. Claiming guns reduces the PR pool and increases odds of finding docs and the 1shot cop guy for scum.

Ill post later.

I do not think this is a good argument against the cannons claiming, the doc and cop items are one use only. Also, Durga has already claimed to have a cannon, so that must be taken into consideration.

The docs are guaranteed towns that can keep doc'ing untill they actually save someone. Scum are looking at up to four of their nightkills being stopped this game if they cannot figure out who has the armor/doc.

Durga is probably fake-claiming because she is smart enough to realize you cannot fire a stolen gun in this setup.

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTE:

Night ends in 12 hours.

If you wish to use an item tonight, make sure you have PM'ed both GMs with your action, before this deadline.

[brainbomb]

Durga we should shoot someone who is normally hard to read. Like bozo for example

Bozo hard to read? wut?

He is like the easiest person on all of webdip to read?

These people try to lynch him every game vecna

[brainbomb]

I'm shooting brain

K, guess I wasnt using my posts responsibly enough

[brainbomb]

Xorxes plan is absolute dogshit. Claiming guns reduces the PR pool and increases odds of finding docs and the 1shot cop guy for scum.

Ill post later.

I do not think this is a good argument against the cannons claiming, the doc and cop items are one use only. Also, Durga has already claimed to have a cannon, so that must be taken into consideration.

The docs are guaranteed towns that can keep doc'ing untill they actually save someone. Scum are looking at up to four of their nightkills being stopped this game if they cannot figure out who has the armor/doc.

Durga is probably fake-claiming because she is smart enough to realize you cannot fire a stolen gun in this setup.

Theres other possibilities vecna.like her being scum with a gun- her not realizing scum may have thief- her wanting her gun to be stolen. Its not as simple as shes faking, I dont think ive ever seen her fake anything. If ever there was a game for her to start faking this would be it considering were all just vts with 1 action.

[brainbomb]

I feel pretty good about damo-vecna-y2k all being town here.

Theres a second tier of people who seem town but are not quite within full operational townrange yet, ND, ghug, rdrivera, tom bomb, xorx

After that is the shoot pile
Bozo
Moscow
Squiggs
Chaqa

Im pretty sure durga isnt faking but im wondering if shes scum with a gun. Theres something a bit unsettling about it. Probably too brazen to be a scum move. Shes a bit more limp as scum. So for that alone I will take a cannonball I guess. Proceed with caution I think.

And DRHK- no idea what to consider with him or snowy. They didnt make an impression at all. All I gathered is theyre funny ppl.

[brainbomb]

Flash and worcej are so off my radar I forgot they exist.

Uhhhh flash I guess is just doing the same lame crap he does every game to rile me up. As if I even need stoking.

And worcej I would say town.

[y2kjbk]

Why do you townread Tom?

[y2kjbk]

I guess no real reads are all that informed at this point but Tom’s initial posts struck me as off.

[brainbomb]

man.

I sit out a bunch of games in a row. Get excited to get back in, and I can't even instantly vote ND? What kind of shit is this?

On top of that, whats the point of having cannons if they aren't hipfired without reasoning?

I think I like xorxes reasoning, but it might be a better play come N2. At least then when collectively deciding targets we have at least a bit to help us try to aim correctly.

I dont see anything wrong with this. Tonally its sarcastic and a bit awkward. Id hate to indiscriminately kill a good player over whatever this is.

[brainbomb]

On skill alone id never shoot xorx, tom, vecna because theyre simplynl too useful as town for us to do scums work for them. I need to investigate further into moscow and make sure im not overlooking a towntell by him.

[brainbomb]

I guess ghug is a bad shot too. Please dont make me regret saying it ghug.

[DemonRHK]

For PoE I’m playing soft core delve at the moment with a junk build just to have fun. I’m in the low 70s doing white maps atm.

@Vecna: You’re really worried about someone manipulating a cannon shot from Durga? You’ve got enough crossover that sounds like a odd statement at first, half asleep glance.