MAFIA 77: RETURN TO THE WEST [GAME THREAD] - [HIDDEN]

[bo_sox48]

Actually, I won’t see yall tomorrow. I need less mafia in my life.

Good luck.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Anyway, I can see that people are not going get behind this plan. I think that is a mistake. Carry on.

[lfischl]

Because the scum team has to choose which buckets to claim in.

If they all claim to be VTs, then we have three clear PRs. Not too bad. If one scum claims PR and two claim VTs, then we can start to put teams together, and we may have mechanical ways to root out the fake. I don't know exactly what we're going to be able to do, but the point here is that we force scum to take a position before they really know the best way to claim in order to survive a long time.

Scum will just always claim VT, then they know who the PRs they need to kill are and the best order to do it with.

Great! Then we have three clears and we know if any of the scum are caught visiting anyone, they are toast.

yes we have 3 clears but the odds aren't high to catch a person

[lfischl]

Also what happened to the chaqa wagon?

[ghug]

If I throw suspicion at you I have to talk to you so I’d rather just keep it in my head until I’m confident it may matter

Convenient.

If you were less of an uncompromising asshole toward me in everything you do maybe I’d actually be up to playing the game with you instead of doing all I can to ignore your existence for my own sanity’s sake. But rather than looking in the mirror and and acknowleding that maybe, just maybe, you’re the one who chooses to make other people feel the way that they do about you, you continue to be the way that you are. I sincerely wish nothing but the best for you, but toward me you are an unabated piece of shit and it blows my mind that you haven’t considered that I actually go far out of my way to avoid any interaction with you.

See yall tomorrow.

Ok bye

[Chaqa]

Ahhhhhh....scum do not have day chat!

We should definitely mass claim today. 100%.

There's no way in hell you thought they had a day chat.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Scum will just always claim VT, then they know who the PRs they need to kill are and the best order to do it with.

Great! Then we have three clears and we know if any of the scum are caught visiting anyone, they are toast.

yes we have 3 clears but the odds aren't high to catch a person

I mean, we'll be looking for 3/9 today. That's not bad, especially if we have three town clears to vote together. It is a much easier task than looking for 3/9 without any clear to vote together. But I'm not as convinced as Bo is about what scum will claim. I think we may already have a scum fake claimer, but we'll know more about that after we mass claim...

[Balki Bartokomous]

Ahhhhhh....scum do not have day chat!

We should definitely mass claim today. 100%.

There's no way in hell you thought they had a day chat.

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

[ghug]

Ahhhhhh....scum do not have day chat!

We should definitely mass claim today. 100%.

There's no way in hell you thought they had a day chat.

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

Why did you think that?

[Chaqa]

Ahhhhhh....scum do not have day chat!

We should definitely mass claim today. 100%.

There's no way in hell you thought they had a day chat.

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

Day chat is super non-standard both in and out of the webdip mafia scene.

You, an experienced and extremely detail-oriented player, would know this.

##Vote Balki

[ghug]

I think we should take bo at his word that he's leaving and preemptively #swingthesubs

[Balki Bartokomous]

There's no way in hell you thought they had a day chat.

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

Why did you think that?

The only place I've played mafia in the last 2 years or so does not restrict when scum can chat. I had forgotten that part of mafia here.

But, for real, I could and would fake that if I were scum. So I'm not asking for credit. But that is what was in my head.

[ghug]

There's no way in hell you thought they had a day chat.

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

Day chat is super non-standard both in and out of the webdip mafia scene.

You, an experienced and extremely detail-oriented player, would know this.

##Vote Balki

Why's it scummy though?

[lfischl]

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

Day chat is super non-standard both in and out of the webdip mafia scene.

You, an experienced and extremely detail-oriented player, would know this.

##Vote Balki

Why's it scummy though?

Just seems suspicious that he wouldn't know, at least from my perspective

[Balki Bartokomous]

It's fine. Y'all are too crafty for me.

[Chaqa]

I actually did. But I'm not asking for town credit for it.

Day chat is super non-standard both in and out of the webdip mafia scene.

You, an experienced and extremely detail-oriented player, would know this.

##Vote Balki

Why's it scummy though?

It seems forced to get towncred to me, especially with his "oh no pleasn't townread me for it" bit

[Chaqa]

I just find it hard to imagine he forgets a detail when he just threw a temper tantrum in the 20 questions games about people not being detail oriented

[Balki Bartokomous]

I just find it hard to imagine he forgets a detail when he just threw a temper tantrum in the 20 questions games about people not being detail oriented

I did not "throw a temper tantrum" in the 20 questions game about people not being detail oriented.

Jamiet and Foxcastle threw a temper tantrum at me for the way I was asking people to clarify what they meant.

I have, at all times, remained jovial and downright delightful.

[ghug]

So we've had two big things today:

The first is worcejgate. I'm inclined to think worcej is town, and that anyone loudly demanding his death or showing consistency on him between night and day (Chaqa, Koala, Balki) look pretty good to me. The people who tried to jump on killing him after not really caring at night (bo, damo, yav) look pretty bad.

The second is massclaimgate. I feel inclined to town's those who pushed for this even though I disagree with it. I'm not totally sold on Balki because he has this capacity, but he's playing fast and loose and attracting a lot of shit even if i don't think his play is ultimately helpful to town. I think damo looks pretty good. Then you've got vocal opponents of the plan (Rd, bo, Chaqa, Bunny), and whatever the hell bozo is doing, which for some reason is really rubbing me the wrong way. Normally I'd townread people being loud and firm about their opinions, but it seems like an easy enough position to take here that I don't feel inclined to give them a ton of credit.

Then you've got lfischl and yav who are just sitting there.

That leaves me at:

Decent kills today:
bo
bozo
yav
lfischl

Nulls:
Rd
Bunny
Chaqa

Townleans:
damo
Balki

Town:
worcej
Koala
ghuggles

[Balki Bartokomous]

Anyway, I actually don't mind being daychopped for this. It feels kind of appropriate.

When I die, please consider a mass claim tomorrow.