What's changed since you concluded that the downsides of this outweigh the upsides?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 pmI still contend that if we hammer someone, it's got to be a volunteer.
We don't want to make a PR out themselves.
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Using a volunteer guarantees we mis-kill a town, if we try to give a potential gambler a target, we should at least try to DK a scum.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:34 pmHow is it different? During ordinary daykilling we're prone to mistakes, killing town when we're hoping for mafia, and sometimes taking a PR down in the process. There's no chance of that happening with what I am proposing.Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pmHow is it any different than any other daychop?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 pmI still contend that if we hammer someone, it's got to be a volunteer.
We don't want to make a PR out themselves.
We daychop without volunteers. We are going to daychop tomorrow. We're just voting now when we have one more town player and the potential to get a free useful item.
Unless I am missing something.
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I think worcej is more likely to be town, but I would hammer him for sure if he is the leading vote getter. He is firmly in the POE and so reducing the POE, potentially getting an item for the gambler, and getting real info from this vote seem like a generally good proposition.
I'd like people to vote BunnyGo, who has shown TMI on my alignment and does not seem to be solving a puzzle.
I'd like people to vote BunnyGo, who has shown TMI on my alignment and does not seem to be solving a puzzle.
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Why not? You get people volunteering now it changes the pool for mafia and the nightkill tonight, right?Balki Bartokomous wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:35 pmNobody do this.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pmI'll also contend that the volunteer needs to do so right at, or immediately after the EON.
If you tell me why it doesn't make sense, Ill drop it.
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Nothing's changed, but if the consensus is to do it, then do it. I know I'm not making myself clearly understood but it's where I'm at right now.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:37 pmWhat's changed since you concluded that the downsides of this outweigh the upsides?Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:28 pmI still contend that if we hammer someone, it's got to be a volunteer.
We don't want to make a PR out themselves.
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A volunteer is a VT, right? We have PRs we want to keep hidden. Claiming VT right now, when not about to get daychopped, helps scum.
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Ah...ok.bozotheclown wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:38 pm
Using a volunteer guarantees we mis-kill a town, if we try to give a potential gambler a target, we should at least try to DK a scum.
Nevermind responding Balki, bozo spelled it out for me.
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This is weirdly nervous energy from Brian.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pmI'll also contend that the volunteer needs to do so right at, or immediately after the EON.
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What? I mean my heart rate's a little high because I just walked back from the store, but that ain't nerves.ghug wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:44 pmThis is weirdly nervous energy from Brian.Hamilton Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:31 pmI'll also contend that the volunteer needs to do so right at, or immediately after the EON.
I'm going to drop a vote on Worcej. I think there was enough in the vote yesterday to test it out.
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Does someone have the current vote count?
Will anyone join me on BunnyGo?
I thought worcej's push on me earlier in the night seemed pretty Town. He was just sticking his neck out in a way that seemed unusual coming from scum.
Will anyone join me on BunnyGo?
I thought worcej's push on me earlier in the night seemed pretty Town. He was just sticking his neck out in a way that seemed unusual coming from scum.
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You have 12 minutes to get it done.
##Vote Worcej
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Voting ends in 5 minutes so that gambler has time to get the wager in.
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Unofficial night vote count:
lfischl (2): worcej, bo
worcej (4): Koala, lfischl, Chaqa; Brian
damo (2): rd; Balki
Brian (1): ghug
3 minutes left.
lfischl (2): worcej, bo
worcej (4): Koala, lfischl, Chaqa; Brian
damo (2): rd; Balki
Brian (1): ghug
3 minutes left.
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I think this is the latest:
Unofficial night vote count:
lfischl (2): worcej, bo
worcej (4): Koala, lfischl, Chaqa, Hamilton Brian
damo (2): rd, Balki
Hamilton Brian (1): ghug
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