M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[Chaqa]

I am most confident in a damo/heart/Kaka team at this point.

I'm actually way more confident Kak is town than Fisch.

[Chaqa]

We have no room for error D4.

Yeah, which is why we’re not killing a guy who has a 1-in-6 chance of being mafia over others with a 3-in-5 chance.

Sorry Bona, I should have driven that kill onto bozo.

I think Chaqa's D1 was an attempt to draw the cop scan.

I don't feel like anything I did was unusual for me.

[bo_sox48]

I am most confident in a damo/heart/Kaka team at this point.

damo signaled to me and worcej that he knew worcej was the doctor, and I think it is obvious the mafia did not know. lfischl signaled it also. I know you were not aware all of D3 like we were that worcej was the doctor, so you had no reason to pick up on the signals, but you should trust worcej on this, and I can point out the posts.

Please do.

Being aware that worcej was a PR throughout D3 doesn’t really help anyone unless they can clearly show they were also aware on D2. It would have been asinine for the mafia to try and take out worcej knowing that he would claim late and potentially redirect the kill onto one of them without any communication at all. It simply wouldn’t have worked, and outing him instead of just killing him tonight and tanking our morale even further wouldn’t do them any favors.

[Chaqa]

I am most confident in a damo/heart/Kaka team at this point.

damo signaled to me and worcej that he knew worcej was the doctor, and I think it is obvious the mafia did not know. lfischl signaled it also. I know you were not aware all of D3 like we were that worcej was the doctor, so you had no reason to pick up on the signals, but you should trust worcej on this, and I can point out the posts.

If this is true, then you're asserting that you, damo, and Fischl are all clear.

I know this to be false, because I am not mafia. So there is a hole in your theory somewhere.

[bo_sox48]

I am most confident in a damo/heart/Kaka team at this point.

I'm actually way more confident Kak is town than Fisch.

Thoughts on bozo? Outside of him and damo I don’t think there is anyone else who would fearkill ghug and then PR read or fearkill rdr instead of just ignoring him as one of the most apathetic posters of the game.

[Chaqa]

You are most definitely not the miller, but I do sincerely wish you had role swapped with me when I shouted to the moon over and over again that you are town after you had called lfischl locktown in a cop-ish manner already.

I was going to be hard softing cop this night too, I wish you hadn't claimed.

I doubt you were up for kill consideration with worcej being claimed...

I’d have let you do that but you just scumread me so I figured that wasn’t happening. And with tomorrow being miss and lose I wasn’t especially inclined to hold information back.

I guess. IDK, I feel like both of these claims were gimmes to mafia.

[bozotheclown]

Yeah, which is why we’re not killing a guy who has a 1-in-6 chance of being mafia over others with a 3-in-5 chance.

Sorry Bona, I should have driven that kill onto bozo.

I think Chaqa's D1 was an attempt to draw the cop scan.

I don't feel like anything I did was unusual for me.

You were not very active and received votes because of it. One reason I switched my vote at EOD is because it appeared you were not online.

[bo_sox48]

I was going to be hard softing cop this night too, I wish you hadn't claimed.

I doubt you were up for kill consideration with worcej being claimed...

I’d have let you do that but you just scumread me so I figured that wasn’t happening. And with tomorrow being miss and lose I wasn’t especially inclined to hold information back.

I guess. IDK, I feel like both of these claims were gimmes to mafia.

Yeah I had always intended to claim tonight even if worcej were still hidden lol. I just wanted to make sure you weren’t dead, and was ready to claim on your behalf if needed. Desperate times…

[Chaqa]

I am most confident in a damo/heart/Kaka team at this point.

I'm actually way more confident Kak is town than Fisch.

Thoughts on bozo? Outside of him and damo I don’t think there is anyone else who would fearkill ghug and then PR read or fearkill rdr instead of just ignoring him as one of the most apathetic posters of the game.

Well, there's three mafia in Bozo, Damo, Heart, Kak, and Fisch. I'm super confident Kak is town. So... i figure Bozo is about 75% likely to be mafia. The Ghug kill is a bit perplexing.

TBH I think Heart is the most likely mafia at this point.

Unrelated - I wasn't even joking when I said I should be town clear for ghug's N1 death. I know this is a meme, but scum!Chaqa would literally NEVER kill ghug.

[Chaqa]

I think Chaqa's D1 was an attempt to draw the cop scan.

I don't feel like anything I did was unusual for me.

You were not very active and received votes because of it. One reason I switched my vote at EOD is because it appeared you were not online.

I didn't know it was a shortened D1, and like I said, I just forgot. I didn't even set up the bot...

[bo_sox48]

I think Chaqa's D1 was an attempt to draw the cop scan.

I don't feel like anything I did was unusual for me.

You were not very active and received votes because of it. One reason I switched my vote at EOD is because it appeared you were not online.

I don’t understand this, why would you change a read because he isn’t online?

[Chaqa]

I’d have let you do that but you just scumread me so I figured that wasn’t happening. And with tomorrow being miss and lose I wasn’t especially inclined to hold information back.

I guess. IDK, I feel like both of these claims were gimmes to mafia.

Yeah I had always intended to claim tonight even if worcej were still hidden lol. I just wanted to make sure you weren’t dead, and was ready to claim on your behalf if needed. Desperate times…

FWIW, you were mostly on my scum lists by PoE and not being particularly scummy. I was pretty meh on you as mafia. I was sure worc was... lol

[bo_sox48]

I'm actually way more confident Kak is town than Fisch.

Thoughts on bozo? Outside of him and damo I don’t think there is anyone else who would fearkill ghug and then PR read or fearkill rdr instead of just ignoring him as one of the most apathetic posters of the game.

Well, there's three mafia in Bozo, Damo, Heart, Kak, and Fisch. I'm super confident Kak is town. So... i figure Bozo is about 75% likely to be mafia. The Ghug kill is a bit perplexing.

TBH I think Heart is the most likely mafia at this point.

Unrelated - I wasn't even joking when I said I should be town clear for ghug's N1 death. I know this is a meme, but scum!Chaqa would literally NEVER kill ghug.

I’m down to get heart. I’ve just been struggling to scumread bozo, and have had no issue scumreading damo. I can see either of them being behind the ghug kill, and probably no one else, yourself included.

[bo_sox48]

I guess. IDK, I feel like both of these claims were gimmes to mafia.

Yeah I had always intended to claim tonight even if worcej were still hidden lol. I just wanted to make sure you weren’t dead, and was ready to claim on your behalf if needed. Desperate times…

FWIW, you were mostly on my scum lists by PoE and not being particularly scummy. I was pretty meh on you as mafia. I was sure worc was... lol

I mean at this point with worcej and I clear and you off the table I’d be pretty impressed if we don’t manage to at least get one kill right.

I shouldn’t definitively call myself clear until everyone has spoken but I think the mafia would be doing us a favor by ccing me so I’ll take that fight if they do.

[Chaqa]

I would have N1'd Bona every time

[bozotheclown]

I am most confident in a damo/heart/Kaka team at this point.

damo signaled to me and worcej that he knew worcej was the doctor, and I think it is obvious the mafia did not know. lfischl signaled it also. I know you were not aware all of D3 like we were that worcej was the doctor, so you had no reason to pick up on the signals, but you should trust worcej on this, and I can point out the posts.

Please do.

Being aware that worcej was a PR throughout D3 doesn’t really help anyone unless they can clearly show they were also aware on D2. It would have been asinine for the mafia to try and take out worcej knowing that he would claim late and potentially redirect the kill onto one of them without any communication at all. It simply wouldn’t have worked, and outing him instead of just killing him tonight and tanking our morale even further wouldn’t do them any favors.

lfischl and I did not know worcej was the doctor until D3. Here are lfischl's posts:

Maybe lfischl, who like Kakarroto, is holding their vote for late in D3.

Oh I’ve just been hella busy the last couple days, but my scum pool is something like bona worcej heart and then bozo or damo

Shoot not worcej sorry heart bona bozo damo, In that order

@lfischl what are your current thought about bozo, worcej, damo and bo?

Damo: if chaqa filps scum he's conf town in my eyes, if he flips town I think we DK him next

Worcej: Not much really, don't think he's a good kill

Bozo: Would be fine killing him here if it got to that, would prefer bona or heart though

Bo: Town

[Chaqa]

That's a stretch.

[bozotheclown]

I don't feel like anything I did was unusual for me.

You were not very active and received votes because of it. One reason I switched my vote at EOD is because it appeared you were not online.

I don’t understand this, why would you change a read because he isn’t online?

My D1 scum read of Chaqa was not that strong, I thought BunnyGo was a possibility, and BunnyGo was on at EOD to claim if necessary.

[bo_sox48]

Basing your vote on who is online at EOD to claim is an absolutely awful strategy.

[bo_sox48]

damo signaled to me and worcej that he knew worcej was the doctor, and I think it is obvious the mafia did not know. lfischl signaled it also. I know you were not aware all of D3 like we were that worcej was the doctor, so you had no reason to pick up on the signals, but you should trust worcej on this, and I can point out the posts.

Please do.

Being aware that worcej was a PR throughout D3 doesn’t really help anyone unless they can clearly show they were also aware on D2. It would have been asinine for the mafia to try and take out worcej knowing that he would claim late and potentially redirect the kill onto one of them without any communication at all. It simply wouldn’t have worked, and outing him instead of just killing him tonight and tanking our morale even further wouldn’t do them any favors.

lfischl and I did not know worcej was the doctor until D3. Here are lfischl's posts:

Oh I’ve just been hella busy the last couple days, but my scum pool is something like bona worcej heart and then bozo or damo

Shoot not worcej sorry heart bona bozo damo, In that order

@lfischl what are your current thought about bozo, worcej, damo and bo?

Damo: if chaqa filps scum he's conf town in my eyes, if he flips town I think we DK him next

Worcej: Not much really, don't think he's a good kill

Bozo: Would be fine killing him here if it got to that, would prefer bona or heart though

Bo: Town

I’m lost. He didn’t scumread him, cool I guess? I townread him so I’d rather hear about you and damo.