M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[bo_sox48]

Not gonna make a move but damo is my #1 tomorrow pretty much regardless of how this goes

bot says you're currently voting with damo?

Don’t know if damo is voting for himself but if he is then yes. Otherwise idk what bot you’re looking at

[bo_sox48]

I think I like "a".

it's like talking to a brick

Do you think if all the mafia reported dog checks, they would be motivated to NK rdrivera because he did not?

I don’t think anyone but you is spending time thinking about your survey

[lfischl]

i would be fine with either a bozo or worcej vote

##vote worcej for competitiveness

I would be good with this as well, or heart

[lfischl]

it's like talking to a brick

Do you think if all the mafia reported dog checks, they would be motivated to NK rdrivera because he did not?

I don’t think anyone but you is spending time thinking about your survey

Agreed lmao, is there a new one?

[bo_sox48]

1. Chaqa or damo but not both, because of this feud
2. worcej, because i have a foggier idea of where they stand compared to some others like bona which i'm more confident about being town
3. Even though I place trust in bozotheclown and his survey i could be swayed on him bc of how the celaph vote turned out, even though i voted for celaph too.
4. bo_sox strikes me as aggressive but not necessarily mafia, lol.
5. I think that leaves Kak and lfisch

i'm gonna brainstorm this Q to try and come up with a solid guess of 4 but that's where my head is at in general

wrt 4 - is being aggressive generally scum-indicative, as you see it?

no but it makes him stand out compared to the others

Lol I’m just a hothead

[bo_sox48]

Do you think if all the mafia reported dog checks, they would be motivated to NK rdrivera because he did not?

I don’t think anyone but you is spending time thinking about your survey

Agreed lmao, is there a new one?

Nope, this is still the old one

[lfischl]

I don’t think anyone but you is spending time thinking about your survey

Agreed lmao, is there a new one?

Nope, this is still the old one

Jesus Christ we’re still arguing over this

[bozotheclown]

Do you think if all the mafia reported dog checks, they would be motivated to NK rdrivera because he did not?

I don’t think anyone but you is spending time thinking about your survey

Agreed lmao, is there a new one?

There is a new survey, please provide your scum pool, up to 4 players.

[heartthrob24909]

wrt 4 - is being aggressive generally scum-indicative, as you see it?

no but it makes him stand out compared to the others

is standing out towny or scummy?

towny methinks

[bozotheclown]

Well I petted rdr N1 so obviously I thought he might be a the dog lol.

PRs should be active and participate because the mafia is looking for PRs among people who are not actively participating, as the rdr kill in my opinion demonstrates, and you haven’t disputed that. And yes, lurking PRs should change their behavior, and we should kill lurkers because once the PRs wisely stray away from that path the remaining ones include a deep threat.

Why else do you suppose rdr was killed? Your killing anti-survey people makes zero sense, and I am still hoping you’re being sarcastic by supposing the mafia started off their quest to kill anti-survey folks, a goal that would take the entire game and has no stated gain for them, with the least talkative and most apathetic of the anti-survey post as opposed to any of the other ones.

So let’s think through some alternatives:
a) The mafia team is comprised of all the other anti-survey people that are being louder about it than rdrivera! But in that case they killed an ally.
b) The mafia team killed rdrivera because he had one of them pinned in an inescapable corner! But he didn’t have anyone pinned in a corner and wasn’t doing anything.
c) The mafia team killed rdrivera because he was the most dangerous player remaining to them in some hypothetical scenario down the road. What scenario could that be?
d) The mafia team killed rdrivera because they thought he was a PR. You didn’t explain why this doesn’t make sense.
e) (insert your answer here)

I think I like "a".

And I would believe Kaka could too, but he strongly townreads Bona, who is, if town, the obvious first kill among the dissenters.

I am not inclined to believe Bonatogether is town.

[bo_sox48]

I don’t think anyone but you is spending time thinking about your survey

Agreed lmao, is there a new one?

There is a new survey, please provide your scum pool, up to 4 players.

That is not the one you were talking about nor the one they were asking about.

[damo666]

Bona is getting scummier and scummier. Problem is being Bona that does not necessarily mean he's scum!

[Bonatogether]

Not gonna make a move but damo is my #1 tomorrow pretty much regardless of how this goes

bot says you're currently voting with damo?

Don’t know if damo is voting for himself but if he is then yes. Otherwise idk what bot you’re looking at

confused you and bozo in that post

[Bonatogether]

i would be fine with either a bozo or worcej vote

##vote worcej for competitiveness

I would be good with this as well, or heart

why heart?

[Bonatogether]

no but it makes him stand out compared to the others

is standing out towny or scummy?

towny methinks

explique s'il vous plait

why are town more likely to stand out (or why are scum less likely to stand out)?

[Bonatogether]

Bona is getting scummier and scummier. Problem is being Bona that does not necessarily mean he's scum!

maybe this means your metric of what it means for me to be scummy is wrong

[bozotheclown]

I am going to fill in some information for the missing players based on what they said so far D3. Anyone can repost this if they want to update their scum pool. The posts below are the sources for what I have added.

scum pool (up to 4):

bozo: Bonatogether, Chaqa, damo, Kakarroto
Chaqa: bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej
damo: Chaqa, lfischl, Bonatogether, bozo
bo_sox: damo, worcej, lfischl
worcej: Bonatogether, Kakarroto, damo, heartthrob
heartthrob: (Chaqa, damo, worcej)
Kakarroto: (worcej, bozo, Chaqa, damo)
Bonatogether: (bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej)
lfischl: (worcej, heartthrob)

With only one mis-kill left, I think it would be a good idea to have everyone go on record with their scum pool, up to 4:

bozo: Bonatogether, Chaqa, damo, Kakarroto
Chaqa: bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej

1. Chaqa or damo but not both, because of this feud
2. worcej, because i have a foggier idea of where they stand compared to some others like bona which i'm more confident about being town
3. Even though I place trust in bozotheclown and his survey i could be swayed on him bc of how the celaph vote turned out, even though i voted for celaph too.
4. bo_sox strikes me as aggressive but not necessarily mafia, lol.
5. I think that leaves Kak and lfisch

i'm gonna brainstorm this Q to try and come up with a solid guess of 4 but that's where my head is at in general

I've been looking at the surviving ones and thinking about it, the most mafia-ness comes currently from worcej. I'm not so sure about bozo, bo has scratched my radar too. I'm still not sure if that isn't just too easy of a mafia team.

I'm getting strange vibes from heartthrob but celaph was convinced they are town, so maybe I just take up some wrong stuff (or maybe I shouldn't trust too much in dead town reads).

Strangely enough, I see Chaqa and damo on the same level, they could be mafia, but right now I wouldn't be able to point it out.

Is bona actually my top candidate for town? I can't believe it, but after RD's death, yeah, seems so. Even with the same pattern of being the driving force for two town ejections, which if this continues is a sign for maf bona, but town bona was in the past also responsible for one or two miss-ejections.

I really should have a reread and a focussed look on lfischl. Currently they are in a fog area between heartthrob and bona, but I couldn't even vaguely say where.

Kakarroto
lfischl
Bonatogether
heartthrob24909
bo_sox47
worcej
damo666
bozotheclown

This is roughly where I'm at

would move fisch down but basically agree

i would be fine with either a bozo or worcej vote

##vote worcej for competitiveness

I would be good with this as well, or heart

[bozotheclown]

scum pool (up to 4):

bozo: Bonatogether, Chaqa, damo, Kakarroto
Chaqa: bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej
damo: Chaqa, lfischl, Bonatogether, bozo
bo_sox: damo, worcej, lfischl
worcej: Bonatogether, Kakarroto, damo, heartthrob
heartthrob: (Chaqa, damo, worcej)
Kakarroto: (worcej, bozo, Chaqa, damo)
Bonatogether: (bo_sox, bozo, damo, worcej)
lfischl: (worcej, heartthrob)

Here is the tabulated result for what I have so far.
damo: 7
worcej: 6
bozo: 4
Chaqa: 4
Bonatogether: 3
bo_sox: 2
heartthrob: 2
Kakarroto: 2
lfischl: 2

[bozotheclown]

It is interesting, at least to me, that everyone I have in my scum pool are scum reading me. That probably means I am missing at least one scum, but I am not sure who that would be.

[bozotheclown]

It is interesting, at least to me, that everyone I have in my scum pool are scum reading me. That probably means I am missing at least one scum, but I am not sure who that would be.

Maybe lfischl, who like Kakarroto, is holding their vote for late in D3.