M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[bo_sox48]

I'd vote for either of them

Remember when lfisch was locktown

He still is? What do you mean?

By “I’d vote for either of them” you must mean you would vote for damo or yourself

[Chaqa]

@bo: i was asked about my views on damo and worcej

I said I'd vote for either of them

Not Lfischl

[bo_sox48]

ah

[lfischl]

I've got solid town vibes on Kak, a soul read on Lfischl, and celaph seems fine.

Anyone else is fair game

a soul read?

In zoomer terms, it's a bussin vibe

Aight just never seen that before

[Chaqa]

To Rdr's above point that there survey mechanics are dominating the thread, I want to review the people who aren't coming up particularly often.

Damo: He has been rather inactive as a whole, but when he has been around I feel like he's done a great job condensing down what has happened into reasonable points. My big wish is that he made more content so we'd have more to go off of.
@Damo

• Besides Chaqa, who do you scum/town read?
• What convinced you to vote for Bunny yesterday?

Chaqa: Nothing he did D1 gave me any confidence that he was town. N1 his only notable post was that he townlocked lfischl which he hasn't since explained (small townlean to lfischl for his reaction to this). I think he's done a great job today explaining why Kak is towncore, but I'm otherwise rather meh on him today.
@Chaqa, what are your current views on Damo and Worcej?

lfischl: I really struggle to parse his comments in a way that makes sense to me. At least it feels like he's asking good questions, but the lack of his own opinion is rather scummy.

[Kakarroto]

ghug target based on vote implicated chaqa - do you think that's what did it?

Not necessarily, but a possibility. For that to be true, Chaqa needs to be mafia of course. He said he wouldn't do ghug this favour if he was, but there is also the possibility to be outvoted by the two other. Plus the team would probably look like Chaqa-bozo-bo or Chaqa-bozo-celaph or Chaqa-bo-celaph. I'm not sure how the probability for all that working together has to be but it is not too likely.

Hmm maybe I'm wrong about the composition and it's because Chaqa is the wolf in sheep fur (godfather), but that is a very wild thought.

These are brand new scumreads. Are they scumreads?

these teams are formed because I keep in mind that ghug was N1'ed and include people I personally would've targeted before ghug if I was mafia (and I think others would have too).

[Bonatogether]

Yeah, I don't have scumreads that I love right now. I guess I'm most persuaded to ##vote Bozo for the way he's pushed Kak, but I feel safer behind this nice large hedge.

nice prop of the largest wagon while the fisch is gaining momentum. gotta love it.

@Bona, what do you think of the post below?

His response isn't particularly related to my question at the time given that I was more concerned with him trying to justify his past behavior than explain his current perspective. Given that, I feel like the fact that he responded with a question about Chaqa buddying people suggests that his primary thought regarding Chaqa at the moment is a concern that Chaqa's lfischl locktown statement was an attempt to buddy him. Would he still be concerned about buddying as scum? That seems less likely to me which makes me doubt an lfischl wagon.

Why would you support a Chaqa wagon?

Also, is this message abobe the message that you were referring to here:

Does chaqa have a history of just buddying people?

any old smoothbrain can cook up 'im being buddied by the person claiming im locktown'. this isn't a point

[Bonatogether]

I've got solid town vibes on Kak, a soul read on Lfischl, and celaph seems fine.

Anyone else is fair game

a soul read?

In zoomer terms, it's a bussin vibe

go back to your avocado toast

[Bonatogether]

a soul read?

In zoomer terms, it's a bussin vibe

Aight just never seen that before

cross-generational contact

[celaph]

To Rdr's above point that there survey mechanics are dominating the thread, I want to review the people who aren't coming up particularly often.

Damo: He has been rather inactive as a whole, but when he has been around I feel like he's done a great job condensing down what has happened into reasonable points. My big wish is that he made more content so we'd have more to go off of.
@Damo

• Besides Chaqa, who do you scum/town read?
• What convinced you to vote for Bunny yesterday?

Chaqa: Nothing he did D1 gave me any confidence that he was town. N1 his only notable post was that he townlocked lfischl which he hasn't since explained (small townlean to lfischl for his reaction to this). I think he's done a great job today explaining why Kak is towncore, but I'm otherwise rather meh on him today.
@Chaqa, what are your current views on Damo and Worcej?

lfischl: I really struggle to parse his comments in a way that makes sense to me. At least it feels like he's asking good questions, but the lack of his own opinion is rather scummy.

I'd vote for either of them

Remember when lfisch was locktown

I assume Chaqa is referring to Damo and Worcej. The two I asked him about.

[Kakarroto]

What reactions made you want to consider voting for damo, who you also neither scumread nor townread?

there was a response earlier, don't exactly know on top of my hat if it was D1, N1 or later, which made me and rubbed me the wrong way, but I concluded that it was probably just my inability to understand him.

Gonna need receipts my friend

I'll give them after EoD, I'm behind and don't have time to search now

[Bonatogether]

@kak @heart vote celaph

[bo_sox48]

Yeah that’s fair

[bozotheclown]

[...](cut because it got way too big, look it up via link)

The point of the survey from my perspective was to force the mafia to fabricate a response, and to provide information to the dog, which in the best case scenario could catch a scum. However, that required full participation by town, which obviously has not happened.

I can see the information for the dog, but I don't think that had high priority, at least not as high as keeping him safe for later since the ability gets stronger the less people are around.

Also I think such a survey would never have full participation. What are your thought on the people who didn't give you a pet information, celaph, bona, RD and myself?

(also I need to speed up, I'm slow in catching up)

damo did not response either. From my perspective, there would be 1.5 mafia in that group by random chance, so there is probably 1-2 mafia in the group, which is not helpful. At this point I would say the responses from damo and celaph seem most likely to be from mafia avoiding the question.

[Bonatogether]

i gtg

there is a correct choice and a wrong choice

[celaph]

nice prop of the largest wagon while the fisch is gaining momentum. gotta love it.

@Bona, what do you think of the post below?

His response isn't particularly related to my question at the time given that I was more concerned with him trying to justify his past behavior than explain his current perspective. Given that, I feel like the fact that he responded with a question about Chaqa buddying people suggests that his primary thought regarding Chaqa at the moment is a concern that Chaqa's lfischl locktown statement was an attempt to buddy him. Would he still be concerned about buddying as scum? That seems less likely to me which makes me doubt an lfischl wagon.

Does chaqa have a history of just buddying people?

any old smoothbrain can cook up 'im being buddied by the person claiming im locktown'. this isn't a point

True, but that's wasn't really the point. The question is whether you think that scum lfischl responds to a question about his past behavior by making something up about his current thoughts. If he's going to cook a response, I don't think that's the response he cooks.

[President Eden]

actual vcu

bozotheclown (3): rdrivera2005, Kakarroto, celaph
celaph (3): Bonatogether, bo_sox48, bozotheclown
Bonatogether (2): worcej, Chaqa
Chaqa (1): damo666
Kakarroto (1): heartthrob24909
heartthrob24909 (1): lfischl

currently no one is set to die at the end of day 2 in 35mins

[Bonatogether]

i disagree

[celaph]

i disagree

Noted.

[Kakarroto]

finally last page

hmm, damo and celaph ... I haven't seen a good example in here for why celaph is mafia, he could be, sure, don't get me wrong, I'm not convinced though. As I said, I'm a branded child considering damo since I always make the wrong decision considering him (except the one time we both were mafia and I voted him out after coming in during the game?) (also would me not voting damo right now make that wrong? argh!?!)

I'm not too sure of bozo anymore. He is at least receptive and seems to come around. Personally, I disliked worcej's reaction on the issue more. But what if he is just a misguided town? Argh. Need to think more.