M1023: Mafarmia [GAME THREAD] [HIDDEN]

[bo_sox48]

hi bona, see my question above.

hi heart...jump on in, the water's fine.

its hard to know where to start. why do you think people are targeting you?

This is a really weird question. Softball. “Hey look at me I’m doing something”

[bo_sox48]

If bo doesn't post or vote in the next 10ish minutes I think I'll switch to chaqa

why chaqa?

I forget where the post is but Chaqa is probably the person I have the worst feeling about, Bona is probably town but my gut wants me to say he's scum

So you trust your gut on Chaqa but on Bona you don’t?

[bo_sox48]

What's your take on celaph?

I agree with him on the bo_sox wagon, he might not be aware that D1 EOD is today.

i dont rly want to keep my bo vote but idk who i'd change it to at this pt. of the top posters i feel like i have gotten the least town vibes from ghug but others have said maybe not so idrk

Bro why is it between a guy who hasn’t said anything and “the top posters?” How about someone in between?

So many people at EOD1 just like yeah I’m voting on vibes and not actually saying things that matter.

[bo_sox48]

why chaqa?

I forget where the post is but Chaqa is probably the person I have the worst feeling about, Bona is probably town but my gut wants me to say he's scum

what does this even mean

Excellent question

[bo_sox48]

heart can be forgiven, chaqa is afk, but fisch has no reason to be on bo

I said I was going to get off if he didn't post again, and he hasn't ##vote chaqa

terrible vote tbh

lfischi’s EOD1 was sketch and Bona called it in real time

[bo_sox48]

Lfischl is locktown

lolno

[bo_sox48]

Breaking ties as scum and hoping someone is as dumb as Chaqa and says “hurr durr you broke a tie you’re obvtown” is a true pro strat, an old favorite of mine. Sometimes I even do it as town just to have that point on my side for a couple days before everyone forgets

[bo_sox48]

Damo causing a tie though… that is not a pro strat

[bo_sox48]

Oh FFS - I missed the damn deadline due my own stupidity

tell me about it

did my things, came back to read up again, though while on it kept napping away every few posts, decided to make a powernap before EoD and woke up two and a half hour after it, then noticing my alarm had the wrong date since I didn't consider the day shift (EoD is 1 am for me) and didn't go off.

Well, as far as I can tell, I think I would've a non-factor in EoD anyway. I doubt I would've voted for Bunny, though maybe in the end to consolidate just to avoid shenanigans. Probably wouldn't have voted chaqa either. Maybe I would've hopped on the bo wagon but then again, bo's biggest anti-town thing is that he just isn't here, so that's just a meh-reason.

Maybe I had stayed on ghug, maybe I would've went on another vanity wagon. I would need a time machine to proof it, but I think not much would've changed if I was there instead of me sleeping and missing EoD. Well maybe I would've done something to rescue bunny but bona was very much pushing the whole thing here so I probably wouldn't have. To be fair, now that I think about it, it reminded me a little bit of bona's maf play when he pushed but bona does that when he's town too, right? @chaqa as bona-expert, what do you have to say about that?

Why is there so much crying about missing a deadline? It’s okay, you’re both forgiven.

[bo_sox48]

Some notes about EOD:

Damo is solid town to me, can't see scum tying a vote to save town Bunny.

I dislike Celaph EOD. Parking on Bunny and saying Chaqa is a better vote.

I also dislike heart vote. Can easily see him as scum with Chaqa if he has some previous experience on Mafia games elsewhere.

Some good points here, particularly on damo. Causing a tie there seems wildly ignorant, not really alignment motivated, and I wouldn’t expect mafia to be doing reckless NAI things at EOD1.

[bo_sox48]

Don't think there's a great deal to be learned from day 1 voting other than maybe Chaqa was saved?

Maybe flip Chaqa next. Would a give a strong indicator to lfischl's alignment.

smh my head at this guy

Doesn’t feel like flipping Chaqa to get a read on lfischl is a great plan

[bo_sox48]

This is the sort of game where I'm going to strongly oppose killing anyone who's actually talking for the first couple days. Liking not hearing from bo, though.

Why do you not like hearing from bo?

I was in an earthquake once while I was working in Alaska. Ghug had never experienced an earthquake, and he was asking me about it. He told me he really wanted to be in one - not a humongous one, but one that knocked some shit off the walls and made a little bit of commotion, and ultimately left no one hurt. When I told him that the earthquake I had recently been through was a low end 7 on the Richter scale and described the rocking motion from it and the aftershocks he said to me, and I quote, “dang, that sounds like a cool experience. I really would love to be in one like that sometime.” So I told him he should just ask his mom to do a couple jumping jacks and he’ll get the idea.

He hasn’t gotten along well with me since. Not really sure why.

[bo_sox48]

desperately need to post more:
chaqa
bo

need to post more:
heartthrob
worcej
bozo

RD - I kinda want to put him into the 'need more', but with his thing posted (even when I think it was kinda bääääähd because of shortening the PR list) RD should be fine

damo - I'm bad at reading damo, feel a bit suspicous of him, but that was always town damo when I felt that way so probably here too?

lfischl - hmm, not a fan, not too bad though, posted enough I think but I can't get a good feel. nullish for me

bona - I'm leaning town for bona, though in his mafia game he found day after day people to shove/push for like here bunny. For D1, it looks enough town for me to be fine with it, but if that continues day after day with other people, be very prepared.

ghug - I miss from him the desire to hunt, I don't see that he wants to know who is a wolf. There is also a bit of defensiveness I don't like. Maybe it's just lazyness or something else, but it looks to me it's wolf-ghug. Maybe he's the wolf in sheepskin and wants to be scanned ... feels a bit that way at least.

celaph - his posting style is fine, but I didn't like that he supported my ghug vote with a page long paragraph stating about the same reasons as me then before EoN gets around goes off. That felt like a wolf distancing from another wolf, testing water if there would be anyone who wants to vote ghug. My wool stood up with that action. Feels very bad.

- Why are Chaqa and I in the same category when he has been here far more than I have? Is his participation that bad to you?
- What is “his thing” that rdr posted, and what did it accomplish to you to get him out of the needs more category?
- If you do not have a read on damo and lfischl, why do you not think they need to contribute more? Is your lack of a read on them your fault or theirs?
- Are you scared of Bona?

[bo_sox48]

Alright sheeple, I want to hear some thoughts from you:

-) why do you think ghug was targeted? Did you notice anything in particular?

-) who do you think would target ghug N1? There should be better targets around, right?

-) why didn't we have a survey yet? Would there be even a survey that's useful for town?

I'm sure there are more questions that would be great to be answered but right now I can't think of good ones to ask. Everyone feel free to answer them, but I definitely want and need them answered by bo and chaqa and I firmly suggest that worcej and bozo also answer them.

No.
All of us, and yes.
No.

[bo_sox48]

I think we should put some pressure on the mafia and have everyone state who they dog-checked N1, obviously without giving the result.

I checked ghug N1.

I pet rdrivera

[bo_sox48]

i decided i didn't need to know who the pr is or isn't

There is no downside, and if you get lucky and ID the dog, you can at least make sure you do not try to DK the dog.

the downside is i could tip off the mafia when i switch my reads rapidly

i can't give info to the mafia if i don't have it myself

Then don’t switch your reads rapidly? Or check someone you weren’t scumreading.

[bo_sox48]

i forget if bozo joking is a towntell or a scumtell

I don't remember if I've ever seen bozo, also for the sheepdog, can they save themself?

bozo is a funny man and is secretly a facebook AI

idk

I assure you bozo is not a facebook AI, though I cannot say with certainty that he isn’t a robot

[bo_sox48]

I don't think we want this, really don't like this. Depending on our behaviour, mafia would have a much easier time to predict who's the dog and I think it's hard to not let that influence the scan your reads.

Like if you suspected someone before and now suddenly don't with that name reveal you've just helped mafia.

Also it's just a coincidence you scanned ghug who was the target of the mafia action, I presume? Naah, I don't like this, not one bit.

On the off chance someone checked their top scum read and found out they were the dog, I think they can be subtle and not give anything away.

It may not be a coincidence, the mafia may have NKed ghug for the same reason I checked him.

sorry to say that, not everyone is capable of doing that and I'd include myself in that. I mean I could try, sure, but I'm certain I'd mess up at some part

I'm not saying I'm good at PR guessing but ghug wasn't near any of mine. PR ghug would be more hyped in his posts from my experience, ready to do stuff. The overall feel I got from ghug was hanging around, floating, not caring too much who is who, centering on himself. Reacting instead of activeness. What did you read there that would make him see PR? Well, maybe he baited with a wrong crumb that I didn't notice, in that case well done ghug. But who else would've noticed something like that?

I'd like some other thoughts on this too, especially from people who are good at PR hunting. Like damo. Who else is regarded at being good PR hunter?

Literally no one is a good PR hunter in a single 24 hour day phase. You have nothing to use as a guide - one’s personality and mood dictates play in short sequences just as much as their role if they are playing a loose game, as I feel most of us do nowadays. There is very little to gain from PR hunting on N1 with a short day phase unless it is absolutely paramount that you nail a PR, which in this setup it is not. So why do you suppose they would be doing that?

[bo_sox48]

I am now the top poster today. Mission accomplished.

##VOTE lfischl

[celaph]

was a mistake and probably could have read him better but i think it was solid regardless

Can you say more about your read on Bunny? It seems like you were at odds with him early and then increased your anti-bunny rhetoric when I shared my suspicion.