You should have listened to the number of the beast. Then you would had even more questions to waste!Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:42 pm@JECE - I think this is simply far too obscure. We don't know it.JECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:30 pmThink major victories (or catastrophic defeats depending on your perspective).Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:19 amwho would the far right want to have a movie made about
XX Questions, Game LXXI
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would have hadJECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:38 pmYou should have listened to the number of the beast. Then you would had even more questions to waste!Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 2:42 pm@JECE - I think this is simply far too obscure. We don't know it.
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Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI
FFS
No ody knows
Use the guesses
JECE u r either vg or an idiot
Time will tell
No ody knows
Use the guesses
JECE u r either vg or an idiot
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Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI
Closest fit I can find is Admiral Blas de Lezo, although I didn't see any reference to a debatable cause of death so probably not right.
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i looked at every war spain fought that wasn't some small-scale war against native americas or whatever that was on wikipedia, and i could not find someone who meet the conditions. got some near misses, but no dice:JECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 8:35 pmShould I just name the battle?Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 5:38 pmin what war lol
the guy we guessed was apparently the main Portuguese general in the Restoration War (the war the portuguese far right would love), and the Spanish have exceptionally big battles they win in this time. did some wikipedia searching and didn't find anyone, but not finished
Try expanding your timeline.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Camocke this guy hits everything except native romance language speaker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Will ... n_Ripperda wasn't a commander
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blas_de_Lezo has an uncontroversial cause of death
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Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI
like i looked though like 100 years worth of wars and generals and i don't see anyone
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Normally, 666 is seen as the number of the beast (well it's not, it's actually the mirror image to not invoke any evil influences by refering to 666 just in case) so I've searched for battles in 1666; I was only shown battles from the second english-dutch war.
I've found for (probably) french (or romanic language) speakers:
-) Job Forant (1606/1612/1630 - 1692) (and yes, this are three birth dates for him, seemingly there are three different sources for his birth from the french wikipedia side; I didn't found information about him on the french or english one)
-) Michiel de Ruyter (1607 - 1676) (though I'm not sure he was a native french speaker)
-) Cornelis Tromp (1629 - 1691) (though he learned french later in his life)
-) Abraham van der Hulst (1619 - 1666) (pretty sure his native language was dutch)
-) Jacob van Wassenaer Obdam (1610 - 1665) (see above for language)
-) Cornelis Evertson (1610 - 1666) (see above)
-) Pieter de Bitter (1620 - 1666) (see above)
-) Cornelis de Witt (1623 - 1672) (see above)
-) Johan Evertsen (1600 - 1666) (see above)
-) Willem Joseph van Ghent (1626 - 1672) (might've been native french speaker)
-) François de Vendôme, duc de Beaufort (1616 - 1669)
-) Gilles de La Roche-Saint-André (1621 - 1668) (who surrendered against the british due to a mistake but was honourably returned immediately by King Charles II, the Duke of York offered him a sword before his repartiation)
All of these don't fit the criteria with their time of life.
I tried to change my search and got through the whole year of 1666 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1666 ), there was some thing about the portuguese restoration war, which included:
-) Diego Ibarra (??? - ???) (a basque officer fighting for Spain in the battle of the berlengas)
-) António Pessoa (??? - ???) (a portuguese soldier in charge of the fort São João Baptista, fighting against Diego Ibarra)
-) Frederick Schomberg, 1st Duke of Schomberg (1615 - 1690) (marshal of France, fighting on the side of Portugal) (born in the Palatinate/Heidelberg so most likely not a roman language native speaker)
-) Peter II of Portugal (1648 - 1706) (though he was kinda part of royality so probably not)
Other than that, I really don't know what the hint would point at; especially, since under the rubric 'Date unknown', the entry of Isaac Newton splitting sunlight with a prism has more accurate and supplemental information than the portuguese restoration war entry.
I've found for (probably) french (or romanic language) speakers:
-) Job Forant (1606/1612/1630 - 1692) (and yes, this are three birth dates for him, seemingly there are three different sources for his birth from the french wikipedia side; I didn't found information about him on the french or english one)
-) Michiel de Ruyter (1607 - 1676) (though I'm not sure he was a native french speaker)
-) Cornelis Tromp (1629 - 1691) (though he learned french later in his life)
-) Abraham van der Hulst (1619 - 1666) (pretty sure his native language was dutch)
-) Jacob van Wassenaer Obdam (1610 - 1665) (see above for language)
-) Cornelis Evertson (1610 - 1666) (see above)
-) Pieter de Bitter (1620 - 1666) (see above)
-) Cornelis de Witt (1623 - 1672) (see above)
-) Johan Evertsen (1600 - 1666) (see above)
-) Willem Joseph van Ghent (1626 - 1672) (might've been native french speaker)
-) François de Vendôme, duc de Beaufort (1616 - 1669)
-) Gilles de La Roche-Saint-André (1621 - 1668) (who surrendered against the british due to a mistake but was honourably returned immediately by King Charles II, the Duke of York offered him a sword before his repartiation)
All of these don't fit the criteria with their time of life.
I tried to change my search and got through the whole year of 1666 ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1666 ), there was some thing about the portuguese restoration war, which included:
-) Diego Ibarra (??? - ???) (a basque officer fighting for Spain in the battle of the berlengas)
-) António Pessoa (??? - ???) (a portuguese soldier in charge of the fort São João Baptista, fighting against Diego Ibarra)
-) Frederick Schomberg, 1st Duke of Schomberg (1615 - 1690) (marshal of France, fighting on the side of Portugal) (born in the Palatinate/Heidelberg so most likely not a roman language native speaker)
-) Peter II of Portugal (1648 - 1706) (though he was kinda part of royality so probably not)
Other than that, I really don't know what the hint would point at; especially, since under the rubric 'Date unknown', the entry of Isaac Newton splitting sunlight with a prism has more accurate and supplemental information than the portuguese restoration war entry.
Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI
Short correction for last post:
About Job Forant: I haven't found an entry about him on the english or german wikipedia, only on the french one
Also both Job Forant and Cornelis Tromp would fulfil the criteria for time of life/death (though Cornelis Tromp would probably still not fulfil the criteria for language).
About Job Forant: I haven't found an entry about him on the english or german wikipedia, only on the french one
Also both Job Forant and Cornelis Tromp would fulfil the criteria for time of life/death (though Cornelis Tromp would probably still not fulfil the criteria for language).
Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI
Is that an official guess?VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:20 pmClosest fit I can find is Admiral Blas de Lezo, although I didn't see any reference to a debatable cause of death so probably not right.
The cause of death isn't debatable or controversial, mind you. There is just confusion about it.
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Kakarroto! Poor guy! Sorry that you did all that research. I was referring to damo666 and his love affair with real dead males, not battles in 1666.
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like there's a debunked idea about how he died still circulating? what does this meanJECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:39 pmIs that an official guess?VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:20 pmClosest fit I can find is Admiral Blas de Lezo, although I didn't see any reference to a debatable cause of death so probably not right.
The cause of death isn't debatable or controversial, mind you. There is just confusion about it.
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YepBonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:03 pmlike there's a debunked idea about how he died still circulating? what does this meanJECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 10:39 pmIs that an official guess?VillageIdiot wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 9:20 pmClosest fit I can find is Admiral Blas de Lezo, although I didn't see any reference to a debatable cause of death so probably not right.
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Re: XX Questions, Game LXXI
found a movie being made about blaz de lezo, and an english-language article talking about how some things in it might be percieved as right-wing
@jece - is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta correct?
@jece - is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta correct?
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Yes! Not sure if you or VillageIdiot should take the prize.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:07 pmfound a movie being made about blaz de lezo, and an english-language article talking about how some things in it might be percieved as right-wing
@jece - is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta correct?
Sheesh, that took way too many guesses for you all to get.
Blas de Lezo died not long after the Battle of Cartagena de Indias, in which he repelled one of the largest amphibious invasions in history with a small force. Many sources say, apparently incorrectly, that he died of wounds. More (self-described) authoritative sources say that an illness killed him.
I'm curious which cause of death you and VillageIdiot came by.
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"many guesses for" --> 'many clues for'JECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 pmYes! Not sure if you or VillageIdiot should take the prize.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:07 pmfound a movie being made about blaz de lezo, and an english-language article talking about how some things in it might be percieved as right-wing
@jece - is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta correct?
Sheesh, that took way too many guesses for you all to get.
Blas de Lezo died not long after the Battle of Cartagena de Indias, in which he repelled one of the largest amphibious invasions in history with a small force. Many sources say, apparently incorrectly, that he died of wounds. More (self-described) authoritative sources say that an illness killed him.
I'm curious which cause of death you and VillageIdiot came by.
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wikipedia says one primary source has it as typhus, nothing else listedJECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 pmYes! Not sure if you or VillageIdiot should take the prize.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:07 pmfound a movie being made about blaz de lezo, and an english-language article talking about how some things in it might be percieved as right-wing
@jece - is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta correct?
Sheesh, that took way too many guesses for you all to get.
Blas de Lezo died not long after the Battle of Cartagena de Indias, in which he repelled one of the largest amphibious invasions in history with a small force. Many sources say, apparently incorrectly, that he died of wounds. More (self-described) authoritative sources say that an illness killed him.
I'm curious which cause of death you and VillageIdiot came by.
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The current version of the English Wikipedia article seems to have it right, while the Spanish Wikipedia says that he died of wounds. Although it may not have actually been typhus, since primary sources of the time used a term that referred to several different illnesses (or at least we know them to be different illnesses today): https://abcblogs.abc.es/espejo-de-naveg ... -lezo.htmlBonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:36 pmwikipedia says one primary source has it as typhus, nothing else listedJECE wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:32 pmYes! Not sure if you or VillageIdiot should take the prize.Bonatogether wrote: ↑Fri Dec 02, 2022 11:07 pmfound a movie being made about blaz de lezo, and an english-language article talking about how some things in it might be percieved as right-wing
@jece - is Blas de Lezo y Olavarrieta correct?
Sheesh, that took way too many clues for you all to get.
Blas de Lezo died not long after the Battle of Cartagena de Indias, in which he repelled one of the largest amphibious invasions in history with a small force. Many sources say, apparently incorrectly, that he died of wounds. More (self-described) authoritative sources say that an illness killed him.
I'm curious which cause of death you and VillageIdiot came by.
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Primary sources, of course, wouldn't be the secondary sources that I referred to:
JECE wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 10:05 pmSome secondary sources say that other secondary sources are wrong about the cause of his death.Jamiet99uk wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 5:31 pmJust to be clear:JECE wrote: ↑Mon Nov 28, 2022 4:34 amYou guys should be careful on how you interpret my answer to the 'natural causes' question. It's not a matter of sources being unclear about what type of natural causes befell the hero of our story. Some sources flat out say that this individual died of something other than natural causes.
You're saying that different sources disagree about the cause of his death, yes?
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